[Archived] Summer Transfer Topic

[RevidgeBlue]

They backed him last season when he brought in what must have been our 3rd most expensive striker.

No offence intended but that's rubbish, they made sell Sam RSC for 18m and only allowed him to spend 6m on an unproven youngster who may yet turn out to be a complete flop.

If they'd have been backing the manager in the true sense of the word they's have allowed him to replace RSC with a proven Premiership performer like Bent or Crouch.

Not sure that we only need one player.

I don't think that and I'm sure the manager doesn't either but I'm guessing that by saying he only wanted one player he hoped he would be given the leeway to sign someone decent.

[92er]

No they didn't, they allowed him to spend a fraction of the RSC and Warnock sales.

He was given far more money that Hughes ever had to buy a single player.

[tony gale's mic]

He was given far more money that Hughes ever had to buy a single player.

No, he raised that money by selling first team players.

[RevidgeBlue]

He was given far more money that Hughes ever had to buy a single player.

Hardly surprising, Hughes never made any major sales apart from Bellamy which turned out to be unavoidable due to the player's desire to move on.

[92er]

No offence intended but that's rubbish, they made sell Sam RSC for 18m and only allowed him to spend 6m on an unproven youngster who may yet turn out to be a complete flop.

If they'd have been backing the manager in the true sense of the word they's have allowed him to replace RSC with a proven Premiership performer like Bent or Crouch.

I don't think that and I'm sure the manager doesn't either but I'm guessing that by saying he only wanted one player he hoped he would be given the leeway to sign someone decent.

It was very sensible of the powers that be to ensure the club capitalised on what was to turn out to be a one off opportunity to sell Santa Cruz for such a high transfer fee.

The club cannot afford, in my opinion, to ever buy the kind of expensive player you suggest.

I take no offence from your posting, but I doubt the hierarchy insisted Allardyce bring in Kalinic. I presume the player was the manager's choice.

If I were a director, I would be reluctant to push the boat out for a manager who has had limited success in the transfer market for us-see Majiball's earlier posting.

No, he raised that money by selling first team players.

Allardyce was allowed to spend some of the money made out of selling players Hughes brought in and who increased in value.

[tony gale's mic]

It was very sensible of the powers that be to ensure the club capitalised on what was to turn out to be a one off opportunity to sell Santa Cruz for such a high transfer fee.

The club cannot afford, in my opinion, to ever buy the kind of expensive player you suggest.

I take no offence from your posting, but I doubt the hierarchy insisted Allardyce bring in Kalinic. I presume the player was the manager's choice.

If I were a director, I would be reluctant to push the boat out for a manager who has had limited success in the transfer market for us-see Majiball's earlier posting.

Allardyce was allowed to spend some of the money made out of selling players Hughes brought in and who increased in value.

Giving your manager less than 50% of the money he raised from selling players does not come close to pushing the boat out.

It doesn't matter who originally brought these players in, the money was raised and Allardyce was granted a fraction of it.

[nicko]

Liverpool want £6 million for French fringe striker David N'Gog as they try to raise funds for new players.

N'Gog can go at the right price - quoted to several clubs in the Premier League and round Europe - although he may have to play in the Europa League qualifiers before going.

The Kop squad man is wanted by West Brom on loan, while Newcastle and Bolton have made inquiries about his availability - but the valuation is way too high.

Would this be an example of the three club rule nicko?

It would if it had come from an agent...

Any other noise regarding the Arse coming in for Robbo, Nicko?

Only if he is on a diet...

[Mr. E]

unless the takeover goes through i can't see there being much to spend.

Money doesn't grow on trees

It doesn't, but then after we've sold superstar after superstar season after season, you'd think we could be at least given 2-3 million to spend on a player. You know, pocket change for most clubs but us.

[bluebruce]

He was given far more money that Hughes ever had to buy a single player.

Hang on what? Reports vary but say Bellamy cost between 4-6 million. Kalinic cost 6. Even on the lower end Bellamy guess (not the most commonly reported), that's hardly "far more" like you make out. Especially in the context of massive player sales. No matter how you want to spin this, the board did NOT push the boat out for Sam with Kalinic.

It is also pretty nonsensical to say Sam's transfer record with us is poor. The jury is still out on Kalinic, personally I think he will be a star. N'zonzi and Givet were fine purchases, if you took away his monstrous wages accorded him even Diouf would have proven worthwhile. But moreover, most of his "buys" have been youth punts that we may yet see great dividends from.

Back on topic, Nicko, who is this Rodrigo Branco character playing the friendlies? Apologies if it has been mentioned before but after a lot of trawling I've seen nothing. The match reports are mentioning he is a young striker.

It doesn't, but then after we've sold superstar after superstar season after season, you'd think we could be at least given 2-3 million to spend on a player. You know, pocket change for most clubs but us.

Thought we had been...the striker budget is meant to be £2.5 million.

[RevidgeBlue]

It was very sensible of the powers that be to ensure the club capitalised on what was to turn out to be a one off opportunity to sell Santa Cruz for such a high transfer fee.

The club cannot afford, in my opinion, to ever buy the kind of expensive player you suggest.

I take no offence from your posting, but I doubt the hierarchy insisted Allardyce bring in Kalinic. I presume the player was the manager's choice.

If I were a director, I would be reluctant to push the boat out for a manager who has had limited success in the transfer market for us-see Majiball's earlier posting.

1) Maybe so, given RSC's subsequent record. However it might have been even more sensible to invest in a like for like replacement.

2) Debatable, Hughes managed to pull one or two rabbits out of hats but in general in life you have to speculate to accumulate. The better the player the more likely it is we'd be able to move him on at a profit if required.

3) I doubt Kalinic was Allardyce's first choice in an ideal world. He was his choice within the limited constraints laid down by the Board.

4) I'll agree up to a point on that, Sam has only made one really good signing imo - Nzonzi - and several really poor ones Salgado Chimbonda Jacobsen and Van Heerden. Loan moves for for Di Santo and Basturk didn't work and Kalinic could yet be a world beater or complete flop.

In the manager's defence, it can't be easy scrubbing about in the bargain bucket end of the market and I've always been of the view that if someone is your manager, you back him to the hilt. If not, you sack him.

[tony gale's mic]

Jacobsen wasn't a bad signing at all. Has pretty much always looked the part..

[roversfan99]

We definetly have to keep one of Jacobsen and Chimbonda as backup to an old Salgado. In Jacobsen you have a good solid reliable player who wont let you down, in Chimbonda you have a fancy dan who will most likely be in a strop because hes not always in the team. Its a no-brainer for who we sell in my opinion.

[Drunx2002]

Some good debate on here today!

Personally my view on Allardyce has changed somewhat over the last 6 months. I did think he was changing the club into scrappers playing awful football but it is obvious that he's severely constrained by the financial situation at the club. I think it's good that so many youth team players and reserves are getting a decent run out at the moment - we may need them in the Premiership. Seems he's running the club well at present in difficult circumstances.

However, I can't see why the board doesn't sanction this reported £2.5m on a striker now. If the takeover goes through we can simply buy another. Any decent premiership team needs 4 strikers and even if we do miraculously sign 2, one of the four will still be an ageing Jason Roberts.

Interesting times in any case

in Chimbonda you have a fancy dan who will most likely be in a strop because hes not always in the team. Its a no-brainer for who we sell in my opinion.

Finding buyers for these sort of players is unfortunately quite difficult.

[tony gale's mic]

Finding buyers for these sort of players is unfortunately quite difficult.

Newcastle? Seems like the sort of club thatd take him around now..

[Exiled in Toronto]

All this 'fraction of the money he raised' is a gross distortion. RSC made it abundantly clear from Jan onwards he was going to leave and he would have left no matter who was the manager. The money we got was ludicrous and entirely due to it being Hughes who was buying with the Arabs unlimited gazillions. If City had sacked Hughes 6 months earlier, we wouldn't have got half that fee. Sam didn't go out and raise 18 million, it fell into the club's lap. However, he did spend 12 million last close season which is the kind of sum we haven't seen since Jack was alive, so I'm not sure how it can be claimed he was hamstrung.

This year, I expected to see some thoughful trading, not endless bleating in the press. We have 4 good centre halves, 1 ok and 1 developing but not one good, proven centre forward. I would much rather sell Samba and get a good forward.

[Steve Moss]

Looks like home!

i wonder if we are interest in Gary Hooper from Scunthorpe United? Good goalscoring record last season. Maybe we should take a chance on a championship striker.

This may be a minority opinion, but I think Hooper could make it in the PL.

[Ricky]

Bluebruce, Bellamy cost well below £4m. When Hughes signed rsc it was widely reported that it was a record transfer fee for Hughes to spend at £3.75m.

Bellamy was bought for around £3.25-£3.5m

[Clitherover]

Sorry if mentioned earlier but who is the Iranian on tour with Rovers as mentioned in the LT, didn't have time to get the paper this morning.

Thought it would be Assulin but found out just now he's Israeli.

[rovers1995]

Sorry if mentioned earlier but who is the Iranian on tour with Rovers as mentioned in the LT, didn't have time to get the paper this morning.

Thought it would be Assulin but found out just now he's Israeli.

Andranik Teymourian - ex bolton and fulham. Free transfer if we want him

[Clitherover]

Ahh right the Bolton and Fulham flop, heard about him.

Have managed to find the mentioned article anyways.

Andranik Teymourian welcomed on tour with Rovers

[rovers1995]

Apparently all the bigwigs at Rovers are working on something big. Could this be a signing or is it the takeover getting closer.

[Clitherover]

Apparently all the bigwigs at Rovers are working on something big. Could this be a signing or is it the takeover getting closer.

Hopefully both.

[nicko]

Business as usual...

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11676_6273888,00.html

[ada2020]

I can seriously see Sam walking from this club, the bullcrap he is having to deal with at the moment is unbelievable.

His job is a thankless one at the best of times with a section of our fans, but with all this other crap to put up with as well he must surely be asking himself if it worth it.

[G Somerset Rover]

I too can't blame Sam's anger. He's having his hands tied behind his back here.

We simply cannot go into this season with the current personnel that we have but judging by Sam's comments it's a distinct possibility.