[Archived] Summer Transfer Topic

[thenodrog]

We definetly have to keep one of Jacobsen and Chimbonda as backup to an old Salgado. In Jacobsen you have a good solid reliable player who wont let you down, in Chimbonda you have a fancy dan who will most likely be in a strop because hes not always in the team. Its a no-brainer for who we sell in my opinion.

We can't sell either if they refuse to go whilst still under contract. Your 'no-brainer' is completely irrelevent if one will go and one won't. I'd imagine that Jacobsen will find it much easier to move on than Chimbonda as I'd assume he'll be on less wages.

Alternatively if we have to make some sort of Bullard style reparation for em to go it would likely cost less to do so with Jacobsen.

Goes some way to validating my suggestion to pay high wages but offer short contracts. A much less complicated way to do business imo.

[thenodrog]

All this 'fraction of the money he raised' is a gross distortion. RSC made it abundantly clear from Jan onwards he was going to leave and he would have left no matter who was the manager. The money we got was ludicrous and entirely due to it being Hughes who was buying with the Arabs unlimited gazillions. If City had sacked Hughes 6 months earlier, we wouldn't have got half that fee. Sam didn't go out and raise 18 million, it fell into the club's lap. However, he did spend 12 million last close season which is the kind of sum we haven't seen since Jack was alive, so I'm not sure how it can be claimed he was hamstrung.

This year, I expected to see some thoughful trading, not endless bleating in the press. We have 4 good centre halves, 1 ok and 1 developing but not one good, proven centre forward. I would much rather sell Samba and get a good forward.

Utter nonsense. Allardyce played an absolute blinder with RSC and City. 'Hardball' I think you lot might refer to it over the pond. I seem to rem their first bid was 8m! Your post comes under the heading of mud slinging to create ill feeling toward Allardyce.

Read this for something far closer to the truth.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/mancity/5479612/Manchester-City-plan-new-Roque-Santa-Cruz-bid.html

[Majiball]

I reckon we also have to thank Hughes for persuading the City board he was worth the 18M.

PS, doesn't JW do all the negotiating???

[vintageadidas]

"I am looking for a striker who can challenge Jason Roberts and Niko Kalinic, but going for someone like that is extremely difficult at the moment" Big Sam.

That scares me, it really does. A player who has potential to be a decent player and a Championship Level striker is all we have at our disposal. Tough times ahead.

[sloth_frattelli]

One 'silver lining' on this cloud of not having megabucks to throw around is that we've now got to introduce and develop our younger players.

Just imagine not having seen Phil Jones' emergence or Martin Olsson's rediscovery last season. We've got a youngish team with plenty of promise, it's not all as doom and gloom as some people make out.

Scanning through these transfer pages you will see some absolute whopper players being mentioned (only two pages back someone actually typed Messi's name.. ), but at least we're still Blackburn Rovers and haven't lost our identity like some other clubs. At least we're not Portsmouth..!

[BuckyRover]

Utter nonsense. Allardyce played an absolute blinder with RSC and City. 'Hardball' I think you lot might refer to it over the pond. I seem to rem their first bid was 8m! Your post comes under the heading of mud slinging to create ill feeling toward Allardyce.

Read this for something far closer to the truth.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/mancity/5479612/Manchester-City-plan-new-Roque-Santa-Cruz-bid.html

Hardly a blinder. He had scored a lot of goals in the premier league. Hamburg played a blinder with De Jong, £17m for a defensive midfielder that had never played in the PL and only had 6 months left on his contract.

That was hardball

[AJW]

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Rangers-offer-former-Aston-Villa-and-West-Ham-striker-Marlon-Harewood-two-year-deal-article530513.html

when i read this i felt like a turkey who had just caught bernard matthews grinning at him!

seriously does anyone think this guy could do a job for us

[Muddboy]

I too can't blame Sam's anger. He's having his hands tied behind his back here.

We simply cannot go into this season with the current personnel that we have but judging by Sam's comments it's a distinct possibility.

Sam's right. Do this Indian crowd was to buy the club or not?

The lack of activity leads me to think the Indians haven't got all their funding in place and that they're leading us a bit of a merry dance right now.

And while all this is going on, we're losing ground to our competitors in terms of strengthening the squad. Don't the Indians see that the longer this is allowed to continue, the weaker the club becomes and therefore the less their investment is worth?

But it's quite sad that we're letting them do it. Just shows how desperate we are for their money and that we are willing to be me messed about in order to, hopefully, get it.

Sad state of affairs.

As Nicko says, thank goodness there is likely to be a number of teams in the league next season that can be considered weaker than us otherwise we'd be well and truly in the sh*t.

[Ewoodite]

Surely though it isn't the Indians who are stopping us buying anyone, it is the fact we have little money.

I don't see how Sam is saying the takeover is restricting him? Surely he is saying having no money is restricting him and that would be the same whether there was interest in the club or not.

Luckily over the past few seasons we have sold players to finance new signings. No such luck this time round. We are skint.

Hopefully a takeover is completed and hopefully that provides some money.

[Iceman]

As Nicko says, thank goodness there is likely to be a number of teams in the league next season that can be considered weaker than us otherwise we'd be well and truly in the sh*t.

How long can this continue though? We are always saying, that we are lucky that there are teams weaker than us.

There will come a time, when we will be one of the weaker teams, and which ultimately will be down to lack of decent players being brought in. Other teams will look at us and say, "they are not stronger than us" and we will stay up because they are no better.

We have been fortunate enough, that we have had good managers and a chairman who have been a big factor in keeping us up. This no transfer money, or lack there of, will be the cause of Sam walking away, not because he wants to, but because he is frustrated, tired and unhappy with the way things are going.

Investment is important, it needs to be the right people buying the club though, but it is important right now. The walkers want out, but dont make it difficult for new owners in terms of the asking price, or by just being greedy with their valuation of the club.

Surely though it isn't the Indians who are stopping us buying anyone, it is the fact we have little money.

I don't see how Sam is saying the takeover is restricting him? Surely he is saying having no money is restricting him and that would be the same whether there was interest in the club or not.

Luckily over the past few seasons we have sold players to finance new signings. No such luck this time round. We are skint.

Hopefully a takeover is completed and hopefully that provides some money.

The Indians are restricting us, and so is the Walker Trustees. The trust because of their valuations(and to be fair, perhaps they just want the right buyer/s to take over), and the indians because they have no proof of how much money they have. There is no way Sam will want to spend 2.5mill, and then the Indians come along, buy the club and say here is 20mill to spend on new players. Then we sitting with a Dodo, who we brought back from extinction.

[alexanders]

I am glad some other guy mentioned that fact that we dont have money is forcing us into developing younger players. If we had the money to buy we probably wouldnt have seen the development of Olsson, Jones, Hanley etc.

The fact that we are skint forces us into giving them time on the pitch and developing. I for one am glad that players such as Franny, Bruno Berner isnt ahead of our younger prospects.

Iceman:

Of course it can still go on. A team wont strengthen when they tie up a player like Benjani, Bullard, Mido, Zaki, Benni Mccarthy, Kanu or others instead on massive wages. This instead of giving younger players time on the pitch.

There are just too many average players out there who cost too much.

The whole buying/developing policy in the premier league is wrong. We are very fortunate that we dont support a club who is spending all of their money on rubbish players.

[den]

How long can this continue though? We are always saying, that we are lucky that there are teams weaker than us.

There will come a time, when we will be one of the weaker teams, and which ultimately will be down to lack of decent players being brought in. Other teams will look at us and say, "they are not stronger than us" and we will stay up because they are no better.

We have been fortunate enough, that we have had good managers and a chairman who have been a big factor in keeping us up. This no transfer money, or lack there of, will be the cause of Sam walking away, not because he wants to, but because he is frustrated, tired and unhappy with the way things are going.

Investment is important, it needs to be the right people buying the club though, but it is important right now. The walkers want out, but dont make it difficult for new owners in terms of the asking price, or by just being greedy with their valuation of the club.

The Indians are restricting us, and so is the Walker Trustees. The trust because of their valuations(and to be fair, perhaps they just want the right buyer/s to take over), and the indians because they have no proof of how much money they have. There is no way Sam will want to spend 2.5mill, and then the Indians come along, buy the club and say here is 20mill to spend on new players. Then we sitting with a Dodo, who we brought back from extinction.

There's an awful lot of guesswork in there Iceman. The TRUTH is that none of us know what's going on.

[S.Shah]

Sam knows what he is trying to do at the club, He is in a similar position as Bolton.

Buying players like Heerio, campo, on frees and turning and average mediocore club into one that regularly challenged and got into Europe

It is a similar thing hes trying to do here, but if the club arent giving him a backing on moves like Guti, why would sam after all get Salgado to talk to guti about moving to rovers, if the club cant sort their priorities out how can it attrach big name players like Salgado to come from sowhere like Madrid

Surley when sam brought salgado he promised that the club were looking to challenge for europe thats is one of things that would have attracted him to the club but if the board is happy for rovers to stay an average team then best of luck to them

[RibbleValleyRover]

I can seriously see Sam walking from this club, the bullcrap he is having to deal with at the moment is unbelievable.

His job is a thankless one at the best of times with a section of our fans, but with all this other crap to put up with as well he must surely be asking himself if it worth it.

I would argue he is partly to blame when it comes to the wage budget being maxed out but that's for another topic. Back on topic I could see him walking away as well, he doesn't want to go into the season with just two strikers as all it takes is one major injury and we could be in deep ######. If the takeover interest ends and the window closes without us having the chance to sign anybody then Sam is going to be pretty ###### off.

[Roversboy1972]

Sam's right. Do this Indian crowd was to buy the club or not?

The lack of activity leads me to think the Indians haven't got all their funding in place and that they're leading us a bit of a merry dance right now.

And while all this is going on, we're losing ground to our competitors in terms of strengthening the squad. Don't the Indians see that the longer this is allowed to continue, the weaker the club becomes and therefore the less their investment is worth?

But it's quite sad that we're letting them do it. Just shows how desperate we are for their money and that we are willing to be me messed about in order to, hopefully, get it.

Sad state of affairs.

As Nicko says, thank goodness there is likely to be a number of teams in the league next season that can be considered weaker than us otherwise we'd be well and truly in the sh*t.

i am sorry to say but going off wat i so at deepdale on tuesday evening i think your wrong we have no fowards that can hurt any defence in the prem thats just my feeling sorry. and its about time the club gave sam some bloody cash to spend

[Blue blood]

At this rate it'll be Samba up front again. We've plenty of other cb so we can spare him for that duty. Tbh he'd be better than Rigters and the like up front.

[Iceman]

I am glad some other guy mentioned that fact that we dont have money is forcing us into developing younger players. If we had the money to buy we probably wouldnt have seen the development of Olsson, Jones, Hanley etc.

The fact that we are skint forces us into giving them time on the pitch and developing. I for one am glad that players such as Franny, Bruno Berner isnt ahead of our younger prospects.

Iceman:

Of course it can still go on. A team wont strengthen when they tie up a player like Benjani, Bullard, Mido, Zaki, Benni Mccarthy, Kanu or others instead on massive wages. This instead of giving younger players time on the pitch.

There are just too many average players out there who cost too much.

The whole buying/developing policy in the premier league is wrong. We are very fortunate that we dont support a club who is spending all of their money on rubbish players.

Im trying to think of another PL club(perhaps Arsenal and Man United) who are giving the youth a chance to make the step up. As was pointed out, perhaps being skint has forced our hand a bit with regards to the emergence of Hanley, and Jones etc. The fact is, that with the emergence of Olsson, Hanley, Jones, Hoilett etc, we also need a few players(perhaps only 2 players) with experience and some quality about them, to mix it up with the youngsters.

The idea that the new owners would have to pump 20 to 30mill etc on new players is wrong, but to give a decent amount to improve on what we currently have in terms of certain players within the squad.

[LeChuck]

At this rate it'll be Samba up front again. We've plenty of other cb so we can spare him for that duty. Tbh he'd be better than Rigters and the like up front.

Only if Kalinic and Roberts are both injured, which is pretty unlikely.

[Iceman]

i am sorry to say but going off wat i so at deepdale on tuesday evening i think your wrong we have no fowards that can hurt any defence in the prem thats just my feeling sorry. and its about time the club gave sam some bloody cash to spend

seriously dude, without trying to be offensive, but are you older than 5 years old? what did you so at Deepdale? a jersey?

where do you suppose Sam must get the bloody cash? Hurt any defence in the PL?

[G Somerset Rover]

Only if Kalinic and Roberts are both injured, which is pretty unlikely.

They both missed the PNE match due to injury LeChuck.......

[sloth_frattelli]

seriously dude, without trying to be offensive, but are you older than 5 years old? what did you so at Deepdale? a jersey?

where do you suppose Sam must get the bloody cash? Hurt any defence in the PL?

Are you waiting for positive points for this post? Why not contribute something constructive to the topic rather than picking the bones out of other people's posts? Why say 'without trying to be offensive', then criticise? I understood the point the poster was trying to put across and he/she is entitled to it.

And another thing, who says 'dude' anyway..?

[LeChuck]

They both missed the PNE match due to injury LeChuck.......

Aye, but only niggles, they'll be ready for August (touch wood!).

[Roversboy1972]

seriously dude, without trying to be offensive, but are you older than 5 years old? what did you so at Deepdale? a jersey?

where do you suppose Sam must get the bloody cash? Hurt any defence in the PL?

your a very rude man ok keep your throughts to yourself please

[Exiled_Rover]

Im trying to think of another PL club(perhaps Arsenal and Man United) who are giving the youth a chance to make the step up. As was pointed out, perhaps being skint has forced our hand a bit with regards to the emergence of Hanley, and Jones etc. The fact is, that with the emergence of Olsson, Hanley, Jones, Hoilett etc, we also need a few players(perhaps only 2 players) with experience and some quality about them, to mix it up with the youngsters.

The idea that the new owners would have to pump 20 to 30mill etc on new players is wrong, but to give a decent amount to improve on what we currently have in terms of certain players within the squad.

The problem is our academy isn't good enough to produce Premier League talents on a consistent basis. It's all well and good saying "well at least the youth is getting a chance", but often there hasn't been any young players coming through.

We seem to be excellent at producing Championship level players - but that means they're useless in the Prem.

[den]

Only if Kalinic and Roberts are both injured, which is pretty unlikely.

It's definate that there will be games where at least one of them will be missing. Highly likely that there will be some games where both are out. In the first case we will be stuck with one, single, fit player, hoping they do better than last season. In the second case we will have Richters playing the lone striker.

You think that's acceptable for a Premier League club leC?