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Id be surprised if we got anyone else after signing Heskey to be honest. He will take up our budget and be on high wages.

I get the feeling that Sam is trying to do what he did with Kevin Davies at Bolton. He was seen as a poor player, went to Bolton and fit in well with their direct style, and now hes recognized as one of the better target men in the league and does a decent job. Maybe Heskey would do better here as he would be able to use his strength in the air? Im clutching at straws, i dont want him here at all.

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I can see myself getting blasted for this already but hes useless, id much sooner see Yorke back at the club

heskeys sh!te.... what is this board coming to...... what has he done for villa???.... F'all 5 goals in 50 games !!!! what has he done for england??.... F'all again 6 goals in 60 odd appearences!!! he's scored a total of 120 goals in 561 appearences, this is in a career that has lasted for the past 15 years, he's past it...

remember 9 years ago when he scored against germany ... what was that chant england fans started to sing??.... "5-1 and even Heskey scored" this is when heskey is a 23 yo man, he's 32 now!! everytime rovers are linked with someone 30 or over all we get is complaints but for some reason most people want to see some lackadaisical 32 year old waste of space who hasnt been able to hit a barn door for the past 15 years!!.... but then most people that want Heskey in want to Roberts out... where the logic in that, its like swapping an old partially blind guide dog for an even older guide dog thats been blind its whole life!!

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Let's be honest, you'd struggle to get a decent striker for the Championship for 2.5m let alone the for the Premiership, so if that is indeed the extent of our budget then we're stuck with looking at the likes of Beattie, Benjani and Heskey.

Whilst I don't see Heskey as being a significant improvement on Roberts, I wouldn't particularly mind him as another body and outright addition to the strikeforce. Certainly better than Beattie who would be a poor signing imo and Benjani who would be disastrous.

As for Sam, if the stories about him putting his foot down are true, then good on him. In fact I'm surprised it's taken this long. After all it's his reputation ultimately on the line whilst the owners pretend we're in the Blue Square Premier and not the Premiership.

It is however a real shame if the manager has to jump up and down and scream and shout and stamp his feet just to get someone in of very limited calibre and potential such as Heskey.

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IF Heskey is coming in does that mean Roberts is going out?

In that scenario I wouldn't be disappointed, but to have them both at the same time...

While Heskey is just clearly not up to international football he is a proven journeyman Premiership player & a better one than Jason Roberts.

Wouldn't be then end of the world if the deal was right and Heskey was signed - but would hardly be the great leap forward we're all hoping for.

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Just compare the goals ratio in the top flight between the two.

Roberts 165 games in the PL with 31 goals, whilst Heskey has 499 games with 113 goals but if you take his last three clubs into account, then he has 14 in 68 at Birmingham, 15 in 82 at Wigan and 5 in 45 at Villa. In that sense he has a worse ratio than Roberts.

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When reading that Heskey was the one we are after I became utterly depressed and went straight to bed. Now I've slept on it and have calmed down a bit.

For Nicko to saying this is a signing which is dividing the board is understatement.

I find myself divided.

On one hand I think Heskey is a horrible striker with a horrible goal ratio and I really think we have enough om them with Jason Roberts on our books.

On the other hand I can see why Sam wants to buy Heskey as he is the best target man out there and I don't really get all the horrible stick Heskey gets after the World Cup. He shouldn't have been there in the first place, but when given the chance he gave his all - different to most overpaid english superstars out there.

If we can play Heskey and Kalinic as a pair with Hoilett and Olsson on the wings with Dunny in the hole I think we will be able to actually see some goals. Kalinic is more of a goal poacher than a target man and certainly Olsson showed how dangerous he can be going forward.

Considering the price is £2m it has to be an okey signing.

As I said , I find myself divided.

This is a compilation of Emile Heskey. Englands best ever striker.

He doesn't score many goals but that's not why he's in the team. He makes space for other people to do the damage. Defenders hate playing against him and everyone loves playing with him.

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This "his job isnt to score goals but to make space for others" argument is one of the most annoying justifications ever! :) I heard it for years when Ali Daei was past his best and still playing for Iran's national team. Strikers are paid to score goals. If you told even the best striker out there to make space and forsake his goal scoring abilities, then he COULD. But Heskey cant score even if he tried. I still think regardless of signing Heskey, we need a scorer in the side. If Kalinic gets injured (and the jury is still out on him at any rate) we are left with Miley up front.

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Respect to Sam, it needed doing. I hope ears are still ringing. Taking the michael was reaching a new level at Rovers.

I'm with Mr E though. Heskey is all I need to send me into a deep spiral of depression. :(

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People need to chill out.

Don't put so much energy into analysing Heskey's goalscoring record. That's not why we're bringing him on board.

He's never been prolific but he's enjoyed a long career because of his other attributes – strength as a target man, ability to hold the ball up and to bring other players into the game.

I'd gladly take Heskey over Roberts every time.

You won't see Heskey selfishly and aimlessly bundling into the penalty area looking to score for himself, and then mis-kicking or shooting straight at the 'keeper...

Unfortunately, that's Jason Roberts' game.

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Well Nicko was spot on when he said it would divide opinion

I think Heskey's best days (if that is not a contadiction in terms) are behind him , Capello brought him back for England and in his first game was outstanding , but he never re-produced that level again. I mentioned in an ealier post that i was surprised that Sam hadn't targeted him before , due to his abilities to "win" free-kicks in the opposition's area,and we all know Sam loves set-pieces , this could lead to the strange scenario were we have a striker who creates more chances and goals for others by falling on his arse than scoring himself!

IF he plays 4-4-2 with Kalinic i could see it working , i'm just not sure where that leaves Dunny , can he still play central midfield role

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I would have been game for the Heskey signing. He's certainly not great but for Sam's style of football wouldn't have been bad.

BUT I've just seen that he's 33 in January (thought he was 31 for some reason). So no thanks. 30k+ on a 2 year (minimum) deal is not the way to go. We'll be left with two duds in a years time in Roberts and Heskey and one lad with potential. We'd be screwed.

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All I'm going to add is, how many flick ons of Heskey's reached a fellow England player? Not many. In his man of the match perforance against the USA, how many 1-on-1s did he score? None. This target man business is nonsence. I can appreciate the theory, but in practice it isn't there. And our midfield will not benefit, as it is so average.

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People need to chill out.

Don't put so much energy into analysing Heskey's goalscoring record. That's not why we're bringing him on board.

He's never been prolific but he's enjoyed a long career because of his other attributes – strength as a target man, ability to hold the ball up and to bring other players into the game.

I'd gladly take Heskey over Roberts every time.

You won't see Heskey selfishly and aimlessly bundling into the penalty area looking to score for himself, and then mis-kicking or shooting straight at the 'keeper...

Unfortunately, that's Jason Roberts' game.

so we are not buying a striker to score goals because that's not what we need......are people drunk posting on here!

Heskey doesn't bring the best out of people, his strike partners with a camera in their face are highly unlikely to say the truth and laugh at his lack of ability they will just spout the same lies houllier perpetuated about the mythical "power and pace" to cover his tracks of spending 11 m on a clown, the same manager that wasted counless millions on complete rubbish. Ala biscan, diou, diouf, smicer..,.

Complete load of media spun lies about heskey that gormless managers lap up...ask big al if he had his time again upfront with sheringham or mr gormless clownshoes, pretty sure I know who did better by a country mile.

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so we are not buying a striker to score goals because that's not what we need......are people drunk posting on here!

Heskey doesn't bring the best out of people, his strike partners with a camera in their face are highly unlikely to say the truth and laugh at his lack of ability they will just spout the same lies houllier perpetuated about the mythical "power and pace" to cover his tracks of spending 11 m on a clown, the same manager that wasted counless millions on complete rubbish. Ala biscan, diou, diouf, smicer..,.

Complete load of media spun lies about heskey that gormless managers lap up...ask big al if he had his time again upfront with sheringham or mr gormless clownshoes, pretty sure I know who did better by a country mile.

That's a good point.

If we are signing Heskey to basically give Kalinic more chances, then oh dear...

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People on this message board have accused me of being overly negative. But if we sign Heskey, I'll jump in the river. I'll blow my frakking brains out. I'll drink oil.

I bet you say the same when you drop your toast butter-side down.

ask big al if he had his time again upfront with sheringham or mr gormless clownshoes, pretty sure I know who did better by a country mile.

Is that why Shearer insisted that Heskey had to play alongside Rooney at this year's WC?

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Hot news for you

Big Sam was in a furious rage after the game on Tuesday and offered his resignation unless certain conditions are met. These conditions include funds from whomever is in charge of the club and a guarantee over his personal position in the uncertainty.

The manager spoke to several board members before making the offer to leave the club if no assurances were given.

This story is live and real.

I hope he doesnt leave well certainly not in cloudy situations like these.

:rover: tremendous news,sooner he's gone the better :blink::brfcsmilie:

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If Allardyce goes that will be relegation for certain and the end of Rovers as a top flight club.

No doubt some people on here would be very pleased.

Not often I agree with you cos you are invariably wrong but on this occasion I do. See the post immedietely above for one in particular.

Following their disappointment over Jol I wouldn't be at all suprised to find Fulham's gaze turning this way.

But Ricky.

He is 32 years and quite a rubbish striker?

Correct! I've said all along we should be going for Rooney. :rover:

Re: Heskey.... I can remember similar comments to the ones on the last few pages being made last season when we were being linked with signing Kevin Davies.

btw As long as he's here :unsure: some people should have learned by now to put some trust in Sam. Remember Sam Allardyce is the manager and an expert and that we are most definitely not.

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