[Archived] Summer Transfer Topic

[SergioPeter89]

tell that to Sir Alex

Im from Norway aswell, and watched him closely in the three seasons before he went to United. Cant see him make it in the Premier League at all. Everyone in Norway was shocked when he was bought by United, because there is a lot of better players in the Norwegian League than Diouf. He scored a lot of goals for Molde FK in his last season there, but if you had seen how many sitters he missed, you would be shocked.

He is, without no disrespect, Jason Roberts in disguise..

[Esulx]

Weren't we supposed to be interested in Nikica Jelavic? According to Sportinglife he's urged Rapid Vienna to let him go to Rangers.

Sorry if his move to Rovers was p00 p00'ed a while ago but just can't be bothered trawling back through the thread.

[Ricky]

He's the one I think we should be going for

[heysham rover]

Unjust criticsim imo. Never mind Olsson what did you know about Jones, Hoillet and Hanley this time last year?

Please dont presume to think you know what I think or know about reserve team footballers at rovers or any other club for that matter, I knew an awful lot about them and had watched them a number of times as my father is a senior figure within a league 2 club and I often go with him to sign/scout players as its something of interest to me. Rovers have an excellent relationship with said League 2 club so have seen a number of players in closed door games, etc.

[Iceman]

Sir Alex also bought Djemba Djemba, Eric Bellion and I can't say they have been successes.

Jose Mourinho, Capello, Wenger have all bought players who turned out ######. Its part and parcel of being a manager, you take risks especially on youngsters. We constantly criticise these young players, but we also tend to forget that they are still young and likely to improve. Quite a few players mature with age, some are more mature at a younger age, but you just never know until you give them a chance. Remember Olsson? We could so easily have let him slip, likewise with Jones and Hanley. You have to give Sam credit for giving them a chance, and for managing them in a way where they are slowly becoming a 1st team regular.

To be fair to Diouf, it would probably have been best if, he had joined a lower level team, or a mid table team, where there is less pressure to start off with. He showed in the short stints he had last season, that there is potential, but he needs game time which he is not getting. He has Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez and Macheda ahead of him, so that is not easy to get ahead of. At Rovers all he will need to do is get ahead of Roberts and Kalinic, if he cant do that, then ill admit he is no good. until then, i say go for it

Please dont presume to think you know what I think or know about reserve team footballers at rovers or any other club for that matter, I knew an awful lot about them and had watched them a number of times as my father is a senior figure within a league 2 club and I often go with him to sign/scout players as its something of interest to me. Rovers have an excellent relationship with said League 2 club so have seen a number of players in closed door games, etc.

well we found Keith Andrews down there

[heysham rover]

Indeed Keith was found in League 2, I only saw him the once that year at Morecambe and he didnt stand out in that game at all. Wasnt highly rated by the players either. Paul Ince also came accross as a massive tool in that game also, he had requested 2 bodyguards prior to the game as is the level of his celebrity, the man was a walking ego.

[thenodrog]

Please dont presume to think you know what I think or know about reserve team footballers at rovers or any other club for that matter, I knew an awful lot about them and had watched them a number of times as my father is a senior figure within a league 2 club and I often go with him to sign/scout players as its something of interest to me. Rovers have an excellent relationship with said League 2 club so have seen a number of players in closed door games, etc.

Oh sorry heysham...... in that case you'd better not give the game away on here but get along and persuade young Marrow to sign for your club as quick as you can before Sam realises just how good a prospect he is.

[Iceman]

Weren't we supposed to be interested in Nikica Jelavic? According to Sportinglife he's urged Rapid Vienna to let him go to Rangers.

Sorry if his move to Rovers was p00 p00'ed a while ago but just can't be bothered trawling back through the thread.

I think Jelevic, has got Rangers and Rovers mixed up...

[thenodrog]

..... Paul Ince also came accross as a massive tool in that game also, he had requested 2 bodyguards prior to the game as is the level of his celebrity, the man was a walking ego.

He obviously had an inkling of what was to come!

[heysham rover]

Oh sorry heysham...... in that case you'd better not give the game away on here but get along and persuade young Marrow to sign for your club as quick as you can before Sam realises just how good a prospect he is.

Rovers are my club always have been (from the area) but my father is an executive/ex player/fan of said league 2 club. I played for them also so they are a not so close second to my beloved Rovers

We were massively impressed with him at the weekend, however he was captaining Oldham by the end of his loan spell last year so I imagine if he is to be loaned out he will be playing at least in League 1 again. I would say after seeing him at the weekend he would be more than capable of competing in the championship as he is a real athlete, very powerful. Box to box with a similar build to Reid. There were a number of impressive young players for Rovers, how many make it remains to be seen but I am sure the vast majority of them will make a career in football (in most cases not in the prem).

[den]

Victor Anichebe & James Vaughan discussion on Toffees forum.

Rovers link is discussed on the last page of that thread.

The general consensus is that the fans seem to rate him, but have pretty much given up on him ever being fit enough.

[daveoftherovers]

It's all kicked off this morning, rumour mill or "Buzz Control" has well and truly kicked in!!

Blackburn Rovers Strikers are like buses!

Another Diouf

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11676_6292456,00.html

Yebda

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11676_6292593,00.html

Vaughan

http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2010/08/blackburn-to-swoop-for-vaughan/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NilSatisNisiOptimumNews+%28Nil+Satis+Nisi+Optimum%29

[alexanders]

Jose Mourinho, Capello, Wenger have all bought players who turned out ######. Its part and parcel of being a manager, you take risks especially on youngsters. We constantly criticise these young players, but we also tend to forget that they are still young and likely to improve.

To be fair to Diouf, it would probably have been best if, he had joined a lower level team, or a mid table team, where there is less pressure to start off with. He showed in the short stints he had last season, that there is potential, but he needs game time which he is not getting. He has Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez and Macheda ahead of him, so that is not easy to get ahead of. At Rovers all he will need to do is get ahead of Roberts and Kalinic, if he cant do that, then ill admit he is no good. until then, i say go for it

What are you talking about Iceman?

All I said was that Sir Alex have done some bad decisions earlier in his career as all the others and it isnt nailed in stone that Diouf will be a success.

[Balwer]

Victor Anichebe & James Vaughan discussion on Toffees forum.

Rovers link is discussed on the last page of that thread.

The general consensus is that the fans seem to rate him, but have pretty much given up on him ever being fit enough.

Glad to see other fans tiring of never having their players out there on the park....

[Majiball]

Can't say some of the comments on that thread fill me with hope RE: Vaughan.

Think that Vaughan will be sold. He has been loaned out twice now and want to stay at Leicester if he can. Not sure we will get much for Vaughan but he is injury prone and a hot head.

I'd cash in on both, for the reasons stated for vaughan, and tbh I think he'd be happy to go so as to be playing.

As for Vaughan, he's another talent but he's in the last chance saloon, I think Moyes will give him one more chance with a loan deal. He has to prove his fitness week in week out. The talent is definitely there, of that I have no doubt.

As for Vaughan.. Done nothing compared to vic. Sorry, he hasn't and it's not gonna change. He's supposed to be fit but barely plays on loan. Need to get rid. Harsh but true. Things wouldve changed by now, they haven't. It's nt worked out, cut lose and work on another kid to come through. Compared to vic he's done very little in the same time span. He can't play 45 minutes

Vaughans a waste now. Too injury prone. If we bought him people would be slating him.

As for Vaughan, he's not on a huge wage and he clearly has talent. Kenadablue, how old was Leon Osman when he came through? 23 my friend, and he's now a key figure for the side after an injury hit few years. What about Louis Saha? Another player who proven that supposed injury prone players can get over there problems.

Serious issues with both knees, one kept him out for 19 months, the other went as well whilst on loan to derby. Missed the 05/06 season as well on top. Was once a seriously fast player 11.5 secs for the 100M at 13 is very very quick, I doubt he's even close to that now.

Given our experiences with sick notes in recent times I truly hope we don't take a punt on the lad. But if its what we do, then I pray to god we give him a serious medical as having yet another player living on the treatment table will do us no good.

[Kie_BRFC]

According to Skysports Rovers have offered an increased bid for John Utaka of Portsmouth. John Williams would not say who this was but Skysports have updated there website and it says that the "mystery man" Is John Utaka.

[Iceman]

What are you talking about Iceman?

All I said was that Sir Alex have done some bad decisions earlier in his career as all the others and it isnt nailed in stone that Diouf will be a success.

all im saying mate, is that YES he (Sir Alex) have made some mistakes, and he doesnt always get it right. But you are basically saying that we shouldnt sign Diouf, because he is not good(or something like that). Based on what? a few games for united(where he looked decent), or based on a few Norwegian fans, who gave their opninion on him. He was only in his teens when he broke into the 1st team, so he hardly had much experience then. Players like that, is what they call raw talent, not the finished article but can be developed into something in the future.

[Majiball]

I'm not 100%, but did our Norwegian contingent not say that Annan was not good enough as well???

[alexanders]

I am one of the Norwegian fans who are a supporter of Aalesunds FK who are the big rival of Molde FK (1,5 hours drive between the cities)

I have followed him close and was as the other guy mentioned surprised when United decided to move for him. He scored a lot of goals, but he also missed some real sitters. You have to be at the very top of the norwegian league if you should have a decent chance to get in to the prremier league. I dont think he is good enough to be taking on loan at Rovers. Its miles between the defences in Norway and the EPL.

I'm not 100%, but did our Norwegian contingent not say that Annan was not good enough as well???

My response after watching Annan in a game against Aalesunds FK:

Ok.

Just came home from the game. Didn't see and didn't hear about any representatives from Blackburn or other English clubs.

About Annan;

He looked like a class act!

He had great movement and was very stable defensively. He played as a holding midfielder for Stabæk, but also contributed offensively and was also close to scoring a goal.

I will say he is the type of midfielder we need. He is a holding type who is very confident with the ball and very good with possession. I think he only had 2 or tops 3 wrong passes. He also made a couple of very strong tackles.

The only thing negative about him is that he seems very weak and would probable be too small physically to fit into EPL.

I think that IF Rovers were watching Annan, they will put in a bid tonight or tomorrow.

[Iceman]

I am one of the Norwegian fans who are a supporter of Aalesunds FK who are the big rival of Molde FK (1,5 hours drive between the cities)

I have followed him close and was as the other guy mentioned surprised when United decided to move for him. He scored a lot of goals, but he also missed some real sitters. You have to be at the very top of the norwegian league if you should have a decent chance to get in to the prremier league. I dont think he is good enough to be taking on loan at Rovers. Its miles between the defences in Norway and the EPL.

ill take that, because we need somebody who can score goals. If he misses a few sitters, then fine, many strikers miss easy chances. Give the guy a chance, if he fails then its only a loan and he goes back. The important thing for me, is that he must not be the number 1 striker we are looking at. If we get Jo or Jelevic, and either Vaughn or Diouf then great.

[jim mk2]

Moyes is a canny manager. If he thinks Vaughan is not worth retaining because of injuries / attitude etc he's probably correct. And we don't need another Grella more on the treatment table than off it.

Avoid.

[Athlete]

Jelavic apart are we actually linked with anyone decent ?? or half decent ? just spoke to some Everton fans and they say avoid Jo like the plague Vaughn's never fit and when he is runs around like a poor mans paul dickov

[BPF]

Jelavic apart are we actually linked with anyone decent ?? or half decent ? just spoke to some Everton fans and they say avoid Jo like the plague Vaughn's never fit and when he is runs around like a poor mans paul dickov

Hahaha

[BRFC1995]

this is a list of every senior striker on Evertons books...

# Louis Saha

# James Vaughan

# Jermaine Beckford

# Magaye Gueye

# Yakubu Ayegbeni

# Victor Anichebe

# Joao Silva

# Kieran Agard

# Jose Baxter

thats alot of strikers and alot of competition for one/two places in one team, a line needs to be drawn somewhere and unfortunatly it was inevitable that someone was going to have to leave!! obviously Moyes is going to try and sell a fringe player and he's going to try and sell the player that will make most money which in my opinion is Vaughan!!!

and I'm sure moyes would still want 2 better than that lot.

Saha is by a mile the best of that lot....when fit

if yakubu was our player I'd sell if wham offered us 9m or whatever the rumoured figure is.

After that beckford is completely unproven, Anichebe has shown for a couple of seasons he really ain't very good, baxters going to jail or trial plus he's a midget...

Don't think being overloaded with options is the reason for Vaughn being available more being average at best and permenantly crocked.

Would in all seriousness and with a straight face rather have steadinho back...just want someone half decent who'd be happy playing for us getting tired of all the whining tarts we produce after one decent season.

[DE.]

Vaughan would improve our team if fit, but that is a huge, huge if. I wouldn't be comfortable with us buying him outright considering his injury record, a loan with a view to buy would be a more prudent move IMO, though I don't know whether Everton would go for that.