[Archived] Summer Transfer Topic

[LeChuck]

Moyes is a canny manager. If he thinks Vaughan is not worth retaining because of injuries / attitude etc

Can we just nip this 'attitude' thing in the bud before it's repeated unjustly? Everything I've read has nothing but praise for his attitude and commitment, there are quotes from Moyes on this too.

He sounds like he's been very unfortunate so far in his career. If he had a medical and passed it then he's worth a gamble because he does have everything a striker needs.

[SergioPeter89]

ill take that, because we need somebody who can score goals. If he misses a few sitters, then fine, many strikers miss easy chances.

Problem is that most of the goals he scored wouldnt go in on a higher level. Therefor he would be a new Jason Roberts. The big difference between former mentioned Mohammed Abdallaoue and Diouf that Diouf came to a lot of chances in the Norwegian Premier Division because of his great pace, but he missed so many chances, that in my opinion he would be better in athletics or something.

Abdallaoue has great technique, he comes to a great amount of great chances with his dribbling and great first touch. His finishing is pure class, and I would love to see him in Rovers.

As someone mentioned, Gamst Pedersen has already told Blackburns scout about him, and I dont think he will be to expensive..

To be fair to Diouf, he is young and can become a great player, and its important that we dont forget that he scored his only premiership goal against Burn*ey, so it might not be a bad loan deal at all

[Iceman]

Can we just nip this 'attitude' thing in the bud before it's repeated unjustly? Everything I've read has nothing but praise for his attitude and commitment, there are quotes from Moyes on this too.

He sounds like he's been very unfortunate so far in his career. If he had a medical and passed it then he's worth a gamble because he does have everything a striker needs.

If Vaughn is 1 of 2 or 3 new strikers, and he passes he medical, then i agree sign him up. If he is thought of as the only striker, then by all accounts NO. We just cannot take that gamble, so Vaughn on loan, Jo on loan perhaps and hopefully somebody like Jelevic on a permanent. That would then mean Roberts would probably go, but i wouldnt be too bothered with that.

[Dunnfc]

I like Vaughan, Could be useful, worth the risk.

Jo is fantastic hopefully loan with a cheap future fee.

Jelavic - hmmm not too sure about.

But we need three strikers if Roberts goes, but we need to sign two perminatly and not just on loan, sometimes i dont think you get the same commitment from a loan player as you do from a contracted player...

[67splitscreen]

Vaughan would improve our team if fit, but that is a huge, huge if. I wouldn't be comfortable with us buying him outright considering his injury record, a loan with a view to buy would be a more prudent move IMO, though I don't know whether Everton would go for that.

Loan with a option to buy??, 1 year left on his contract, cannot see Moyes letting that run down, risking losing him for free if there is any chance of getting cash for him now.

One thing is for sure the medical staff at Everton will know more about his injuries than most, I hope are medical team are up to the job.

[DE.]

Loan with a option to buy??, 1 year left on his contract, cannot see Moyes letting that run down, risking losing him for free if there is any chance of getting cash for him now.

One thing is for sure the medical staff at Everton will know more about his injuries than most, I hope are medical team are up to the job.

Didn't realise his contract was running that low. Guess not then!

[BRFC1995]

Just read vaughns profile on wiki.....unreal, he must be the poster boy for pay as you play deals makes Owen and anderton look like reliable ever presents.

[Amo]

Selling Roberts = One step forward.

Signing Vaughan = Two steps back.

At least Roberts is available for the first-team and doesn't spend most of his career on the treatment table. People keep saying it's a risk: Yes, it is. A stupid one.

[Iceman]

Selling Roberts = One step forward.

Signing Vaughan = Two steps back.

At least Roberts is available for the first-team and doesn't spend most of his career on the treatment table. People keep saying it's a risk: Yes, it is. A stupid one.

Resale value topman

[67splitscreen]

Selling Roberts = One step forward.

Signing Vaughan = Two steps back.

At least Roberts is available for the first-team and doesn't spend most of his career on the treatment table. People keep saying it's a risk: Yes, it is. A stupid one.

There is a world of difference between stupid and calculated risk, RSC.

[RevidgeBlue]

Roberts is a good solid option up front and ideally we need four strikers.

It's absolutely pointless selling him unless we can get someone else in who is younger and/or better plus at least one other.

As for Vaughan, I haven't seen much of him but I always understood him to be an outstanding up and coming young talent. I can't imagine Moyes would be letting him go unless he's completely knackered fitness wise.

Could be an inspired signing but an extreme long shot I'd have thought.

[JAL]

Resale value topman

NONE......... you can liken it to Steven Reids situation.

[LeChuck]

NONE......... you can liken it to Steven Reids situation.

Didn't realise you had access to his medical records.

Someone please tell our medical staff their expertise won't be needed, JAL's got it covered.

[Majiball]

Can we just nip this 'attitude' thing in the bud before it's repeated unjustly? Everything I've read has nothing but praise for his attitude and commitment, there are quotes from Moyes on this too.

He sounds like he's been very unfortunate so far in his career. If he had a medical and passed it then he's worth a gamble because he does have everything a striker needs.

What manager really in the main ever comes out and criticises a player publicly??

If you had a player and you wanted rid of him, would you say: He's got a bad attitude or would you praise him??? What goes on behind closed doors stays there in football.

Do you reckon when West Ham came calling for benni, Sam said I wouldn't take him he never turns up to training, lives in Mcdonalds and gives as much to the team as a sloth in mating season.

1.5 million for a English striker that 2 years ago was meant to be the next big thing, why???

[John]

Thing with Roberts is that he provides Premier League experience - yes, he is bl0ody frustrating but still pops up with the important goal occasionally, and a decent performance.

Personally would not sell him unless we have someone experienced lined up (which I am sure we will do as Sam is not one to take risks IMO).

Generally, it seems things are picking up, plenty of clubs making enquiries and we seem to be getting linked to more and more players - at times last summer, I thought Sam panicked, hopefully we can hold our nerve this time around.

[LeChuck]

What manager really in the main ever comes out and criticises a player publicly??

If you had a player and you wanted rid of him, would you say: He's got a bad attitude or would you praise him??? What goes on behind closed doors stays there in football.

Do you reckon when West Ham came calling for benni, Sam said I wouldn't take him he never turns up to training, lives in Mcdonalds and gives as much to the team as a sloth in mating season.

1.5 million for a English striker that 2 years ago was meant to be the next big thing, why???

Because of well documented injury problems?

I don't know what to say to the rest. Go and Google Everton fans' views on him. Also, there is a world of difference between publicly criticising a player and going out of your way to praise his attitude.

You seem to be suggesting that he has attitude problems. Can you provide something to justify it?

[tony gale's mic]

For christ's sakes we've got tiny, tiny amounts to spend and people are still picking holes.

Yes Vaughan may well not work out but he's still young and obviously has talent. For the money we've got any striker we sign would have problems. We spent about £3 million a few seasons back on some player who had never scored more than 5 league goals in his six or seven seasons playing regularly for the best team in the Bundesliga.

Obviously medicals aren't foolproof but if he has something obvious which is causing him to be repeatedly injured then one would think there's a good chance he'd fail the medical.

Bottom line is that if there were better options on the market, even the likes of Bolton or Stoke could easily outbid us. We can't even afford the McCarthys and the Santa Cruzs anymore (that's if we were lucky enough to find one). I'd sooner a James Vaughan or a Jo - ie a young striker with talent who's had problems but who could potentially come good and give us a good resale value - than a Heskey or a Beattie who is past it and wouldnt have a resale value.

[Jackson]

What manager really in the main ever comes out and criticises a player publicly??

Erm, Sam Allardyce?

[John]

For christ's sakes we've got tiny, tiny amounts to spend and people are still picking holes.

Yes Vaughan may well not work out but he's still young and obviously has talent. For the money we've got any striker we sign would have problems. We spent about £3 million a few seasons back on some player who had never scored more than 5 league goals in his six or seven seasons playing regularly for the best team in the Bundesliga.

Obviously medicals aren't foolproof but if he has something obvious which is causing him to be repeatedly injured then one would think there's a good chance he'd fail the medical.

Bottom line is that if there were better options on the market, even the likes of Bolton or Stoke could easily outbid us. We can't even afford the McCarthys and the Santa Cruzs anymore (that's if we were lucky enough to find one). I'd sooner a James Vaughan or a Jo - ie a young striker with talent who's had problems but who could potentially come good and give us a good resale value - than a Heskey or a Beattie who is past it and wouldnt have a resale value.

Well said - having f all money does not provide too much flexibility within the transfer market.

[LeftWinger]

Official Site

Well it looks like this confirms the signing of Vaughan and that Grella is staying put.

[BPF]

It's funny how you all take Nicko's word as gospel truth.

Debating Davies like he has signed

Debating Beattie like he has signed

Debating Heskey like he has signed

Debating Jo like he has signed

Debating Vaughan like he has signed.

In the next few days, there will be even more names. None of these names have ever been confirmed by the club. How about not getting so worked up over paper talk and debate decisions when the manager makes them, rather than the Daily Mirror.

[jim mk2]

Yes Vaughan may well not work out but he's still young and obviously has talent. .

Dunn and Grella have talent but their careers have been held back by injury. Vaughan seems to be another - with a limited budget can we risk having another crock on the books. ?.

I repeat what I said - Moyes is a good judge of a player and he's happy to tip him overboard.

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[Carlos090]

Official Site

Well it looks like this confirms the signing of Vaughan and that Grella is staying put.

Awesome!

[The Rover of Finland]

I think selling Roberts is about transfer fee. We could get about £1M of him now. Next summer he goes for free. And his sale profit would finance us Vaughan or someone else. Also difficult to see us signing Faty without Grella going. Unless he is real good.

[Majiball]

Because of well documented injury problems?

I don't know what to say to the rest. Go and Google Everton fans' views on him. Also, there is a world of difference between publicly criticising a player and going out of your way to praise his attitude.

You seem to be suggesting that he has attitude problems. Can you provide something to justify it?

Take me at my word or don't take it at all.

Fans look from the outside in at football clubs and guess as to whats going on, no more.