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If we could afford Klose's fee + wages then you have to assume every other team in the league could as well, and at that price most would be interested.

Don't get your hopes up over this one, we don't stand a chance.

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I suggest the club takes Sam's mobile off him. What with those roaming charges and calls from agents about every world cup bit part player Rover will soon have none of the £2.5m left it in the kitty.

We need to be looking well aways from the World Cup teams which is why I think its a mistake for Sam to be out there - hopefully our scouting network is watching the scandanavian leagues and we can pick up some bargins.

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We seem to be looking far to short-term at the minute. If we sign Klose and Guti, in a couple of years time we will yet again be in the same position and could potentially have even less money to spend! Players with no resale value just make no sense to me at the minute.

We should be trying to find up and coming stars in the French, Dutch, Swedish and Spanish leagues. Everyone has to start somewhere. If we pay £3m for a couple of 23 years olds who have the potential to be excellent players i would rather have that.

This is a head over heart situation. Obviously if we could afford i would love to see the likes of Klose and Guti in the famous blue and white in addition to the prospects!

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How can this possibly be. How can BFS believe this. What is going on.

This is another case of the manager being the sole person in the entire world who sees something no one else can. But how can he possibly believe the priority is a striker and not a playmaker?

Someone explain this to me. Did he actually watch any of our games last season? Did we create a host of chances every game and didn't score simply due to the ineptitude of out strikers? Is that it? And who precisely was creating these chances for us? Was it Andrews? Was it Diouf? Was it Pedersen with his "genius" long throws? Or maybe Emerton? Or Dunn in the 4-5 games he started? For years we have screaming for a playmaker, but no, apparently this position is not a priority?

And if he wants a striker, then first he has to admit he has lost the club 7 million with Kalinic, which for us is an absurd amount of money. If he rates his investment as so poor that the priority is to get someone better, than his gamble was a failure.

edit: Also Klose only plays for Germany. He simply does not do it at club level. He is a poacher, and we would need a Steven Gerrard or Frank Lampard to create chances for him. How do people expect he'll score goals with our midfield? He'll chase after our long balls, win headers, out-muscle four defenders and score on his own?

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How can this possibly be. How can BFS believe this. What is going on.

This is another case of the manager being the sole person in the entire world who sees something no one else can. But how can he possibly believe the priority is a striker and not a playmaker?

Someone explain this to me. Did he actually watch any of our games last season? Did we create a host of chances every game and didn't score simply due to the ineptitude of out strikers? Is that it? And who precisely was creating these chances for us? Was it Andrews? Was it Diouf? Was it Pedersen with his "genius" long throws? Or maybe Emerton? Or Dunn in the 4-5 games he started? For years we have screaming for a playmaker, but no, apparently this position is not a priority?

And if he wants a striker, then first he has to admit he has lost the club 7 million with Kalinic, which for us is an absurd amount of money. If he rates his investment as so poor that the priority is to get someone better, than his gamble was a failure.

edit: Also Klose only plays for Germany. He simply does not do it at club level. He is a poacher, and we would need a Steven Gerrard or Frank Lampard to create chances for him. How do people expect he'll score goals with our midfield? He'll chase after our long balls, win headers, out-muscle four defenders and score on his own?

The usual reply to this kind of post is, are you happy to go into the PL season with two strikers?

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Someone explain this to me. Did he actually watch any of our games last season? Did we create a host of chances every game and didn't score simply due to the ineptitude of out strikers? Is that it? And who precisely was creating these chances for us? Was it Andrews? Was it Diouf? Was it Pedersen with his "genius" long throws? Or maybe Emerton? Or Dunn in the 4-5 games he started? For years we have screaming for a playmaker, but no, apparently this position is not a priority?

We did create a fair few to be honest.

Roberts has been turd and couldn't hit the side of a bus with a hand full of peas.

Di Santo didn't look comfortable looking at goal.

Kalinic didn't do too well in the first half of the season and hit the post a lot after that.

and Benni is a lazy, fat @#/?.

I agree; We need a playmaker, but we also need someone who is able to put the ball in the back of the net once the ball is there.

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#1 - We clearly need a striker, priority or not. Kalinic & Roberts aren't enough for the season.

#2 - Sam's logic could be that if we're only going to create a handful of chances, it's better to have someone there to take them.

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How can this possibly be. How can BFS believe this. What is going on.

This is another case of the manager being the sole person in the entire world who sees something no one else can. But how can he possibly believe the priority is a striker and not a playmaker?

Someone explain this to me. Did he actually watch any of our games last season? Did we create a host of chances every game and didn't score simply due to the ineptitude of out strikers? Is that it? And who precisely was creating these chances for us? Was it Andrews? Was it Diouf? Was it Pedersen with his "genius" long throws? Or maybe Emerton? Or Dunn in the 4-5 games he started? For years we have screaming for a playmaker, but no, apparently this position is not a priority?

And if he wants a striker, then first he has to admit he has lost the club 7 million with Kalinic, which for us is an absurd amount of money. If he rates his investment as so poor that the priority is to get someone better, than his gamble was a failure.

Whilst I actually mostly agree with you (except that Kalinic cost 6 million not 7), I don't think Sam is the "only" person in the world who thinks the striker is the priority, as posts which followed yours demonstrate. With our limited budget, I'd personally be much happier with us signing a playmaker with most of it and either loaning somebody or buying a cheapo striker with a modicum of potential just to make up the numbers. This is partly because I rate Kalinic of course, which some people don't, and we only play one up front. We also have a raft of emergency strikers...I'm not particularly happy with them as strikers, but they're there as options. Course, if we rely on Kalinic and he gets injured, we could be up the shitter because Roberts is a terrible finisher.

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I would say a striker is the most important. We are well short of numbers up there, and despite all the gnashing of teeth we have suffered more from not being able to finish than creating.

Quite a few games last season we comfortably created the most chances but came away without the three points.

We could survive if any of our midfielders got injured - we can replace one mediocre player with another - but would be utterly screwed if either or both Roberts and Kalinic got injured as we don't have any replacements.

Not sure what is confusing about that Mr E.

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We need 4 strikers at the club.

Despite the talk that we only play one striker, we did in fact have two strikers on the park many, many times last season. If we only had 3 strikers at the club, with one injured we would have only the same two strikers to play week in, week out. That's no good to any team, in any league. We are in danger of believing that we can only afford 3 strikers at the club and that endangers our survival.

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This is absurd. So instead of trying to address the problem and find a playmaker, we're going to automatically go for plan B and forget about creating chances?

We do need another striker, but that must absolutely be second priority. First we need to actually find someone who can create chances. Ollson alone isn't going to be enough for the entire season.

Really, who do people expect we're going to get that will do so much better than Kalinic or Roberts playing the "island striker", feeding off hopeless long balls with no support? Milito? Rooney? Because the quality of players we have been linked with so far - aka Beattie, Benjani, Dindane is nothing short of depressing. No one from this class range will be that big of an improvement on what we currently have upfront. Fact.

And Kalinic scored a decent amount of goals for his first season and in the above mentioned role. And now BFS is giving up on him and searching for a replacement? Again, who precisely are we going to buy that will be such a massive improvement?

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This is absurd. So instead of trying to address the problem and find a playmaker, we're going to automatically go for plan B and forget about creating chances?

Errrr, plan A was always to bring in another striker and rightly so. It was always Sam's priority.

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This is absurd. So instead of trying to address the problem and find a playmaker, we're going to automatically go for plan B and forget about creating chances?

We do need another striker, but that must absolutely be second priority. First we need to actually find someone who can create chances. Ollson alone isn't going to be enough for the entire season.

Really, who do people expect we're going to get that will do so much better than Kalinic or Roberts playing the "island striker", feeding off hopeless long balls with no support? Milito? Rooney? Because the quality of players we have been linked with so far - aka Beattie, Benjani, Dindane is nothing short of depressing. No one from this class range will be that big of an improvement on what we currently have upfront. Fact.

And Kalinic scored a decent amount of goals for his first season and in the above mentioned role. And now BFS is giving up on him and searching for a replacement? Again, who precisely are we going to buy that will be such a massive improvement?

Did you read anyones response to your previous post? You might find an answer or 2 in there.

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Did you read anyones response to your previous post? You might find an answer or 2 in there.

The only thing you said is "we created a fair few to be honest". Which is simply not true. From open play we created absolutely nothing all season. Half-chance scrambles from set pieces don't count.

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Reality is if we can afford only ONE signing, it possibly has to be a striker rather than a playmaker and that may be the thinking.

The reality is if we can afford ONLY 1 signing then we are going to be short up front. After finishing so well at the end of last season I was really looking forward to having a few new signings with the extra money of finishing 10th. We really do need a takeover if we want to finish any where near 10th.

If we can only afford 1 then he is going have be bag at least 10 league goals, and not be a play maker, come on Sam/JW work some magic and get us a forward and Guti!

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MR E- your logic is out of sync with reality:

We have Dunn and MGP who can play and create through the middle, we also have a number of wingers too who can create for the strikers, Problem we have Kalinic and Roberts up front... And that's it! Can you name another PL club with TWO strikers? Thus this is our number 1 priority, Sam has said he wants Guti but this is after purchasing a striker, what's so difficult to understand?

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This is absurd. So instead of trying to address the problem and find a playmaker, we're going to automatically go for plan B and forget about creating chances?

We do need another striker, but that must absolutely be second priority. First we need to actually find someone who can create chances. Ollson alone isn't going to be enough for the entire season.

Really, who do people expect we're going to get that will do so much better than Kalinic or Roberts playing the "island striker", feeding off hopeless long balls with no support? Milito? Rooney? Because the quality of players we have been linked with so far - aka Beattie, Benjani, Dindane is nothing short of depressing. No one from this class range will be that big of an improvement on what we currently have upfront. Fact.

And Kalinic scored a decent amount of goals for his first season and in the above mentioned role. And now BFS is giving up on him and searching for a replacement? Again, who precisely are we going to buy that will be such a massive improvement?

You are way off with this post. No we are not the most creative team and yess we need a playmaker. We did however create quite a few chances last year that were spurned, yes a lot off them were from set pieces but thats the way Sam plays, get used to it. At the moment we are weaker up front than we were last year. A striker is absolutley the number one priorty which is why quite rightly no other signings are going to happen till we sign one.

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