[Archived] Summer Transfer Topic

[AJW]

Mr Nixon is speaking the truth.It's just common sense.

It would be Pointless signing @#/? if a takeover could happen in a few weeks time.

whilst i agree with this statement , what worries me is that if the takeover falls through or its not completed in time for the this window , we are left desperately thin on strikers , i would much rather we brought in someone now with the budget we have than risk getting nobody , plus if we leave it any later , clubs will not want to part with players so close to the season starting , we could find ourselves being held to ransom

[nicko]

whilst i agree with this statement , what worries me is that if the takeover falls through or its not completed in time for the this window , we are left desperately thin on strikers , i would much rather we brought in someone now with the budget we have than risk getting nobody , plus if we leave it any later , clubs will not want to part with players so close to the season starting , we could find ourselves being held to ransom

There HAS to be a cut-off point surely.

I suspect that 'six-week' thing mentioned by Shah recently is probably right.

Nobody buying the club would want it to run past the transfer window...horrible way to start.

And the current regime could not let a season start with this doubt about.

I think the cut-off point will probably be in the next week to ten days. If there is no bid by then, it will probably be shelved for the window.

[Doaksie]

All this takeover talk is bringing in a distinct whiff of the early Paul Ince era and I have to say, it doesn't smell good. I guess it's all to do with the levels of uncertainty in the air, which is a shame as Sam seemed to be slowly bringing a certain amount of calm to our sinking ship. I'm sensing a lot of unrest at the lack of information coming out of the club regarding any sort of transfer activity. Posters questioning Nicko's news, posters questioning our chairman.

I guess in the end we back Big Sam to make the correct decisions, whether that is no takeover and we aim to splurge our £2m kitty on a striker, or the takeover is completed and some funds are released for a few new faces. Hopefully it falls on either side of this equation, as the third permutation scares the hell outta me - falling betwixt and between. We 'keep our powder dry' for too long and end up with nobody. What a strange feeling of deja vu.

EDIT: Just read Nicko's post. Pretty much addresses what I had discussed. Hope we get a resolution either way in the near future.

[den]

I think the cut-off point will probably be in the next week to ten days. If there is no bid by then, it will probably be shelved for the window.

Been away, but why do you say there hasn't been a bid? The LT says it understands that "no bid has been accepted".

At a guess, I suspect a bid was lodged, but the trustees see no reason to accept or decline, until all the relevant details are/were aired.

[RevidgeBlue]

I have just read the John Williams interview...have to say it all sounds right to me...

“Obviously we are aware of fresh impetus with regards the potential sale of the club, with at least one potential new buyer being identified.

“In the event of a successful sale, and money being made available, we do have a list of players available in the back of our minds.

“But in the meantime we have a job of work to do and we are not allowing any talk regarding potential new ownership put us off that.

“We will continue to go on as we are and we are still weighing up different options we have available to us.”

So...there IS a possible takeover...that would mean money for players...in the meantime we are all waiting for that to happen and have not decided whether to blow the 'budget.'

Business as usual? I don't think so. There has not been a disruptive influence like this on the transfer market at Rovers before.

Not wanting to cause an argument but you have been selective with your snippets there and the general thrust of today's LT article is in fact exactly the opposite.

In it JW states it is very much "Business as usual" irrespective of the takeover situation.

The article states that the dilemma we face is whether to blow our whopping 2.5m budget now or hang on a bit in the hope we might be able to offload a couple of fringe players which would give us a bit of extra spending power.

Of course whether you believe that is a different matter entirely but that's the official line being taken by the club.

[vintageadidas]

I wouldn't worry too much, it is not like the season starts in 4 weeks or anything.

I always look forward to pre-season games as we usually have a couple of players to "check out" but this season i think i will give a few of them a miss as i am about as excited as Andy Murray's tone of voice for the forthcoming season.

[TimmyJimmy]

I have a rich aunt twice removed. Unfortunately she is not long for this world. Fortunately I am her only heir.

I have to buy a new car this year and will be using a three year finance deal. My inheritance, when/if it comes along, will allow me to buy a super car outright but, right now, my pocket will only stretch to a list of perfectly adequate yet very ordinary mid sized cars.

Decision, decisions. Aunty's cash is just enough to by a Ferrari 458 Italia (one of my most favourite cars) so if I buy an Astra now I will still have to fork out loads of dosh over the next three years. My current car is a wreck and likely to blow up in the next few weeks.

What do I do?

a] Nothing

b] Lock myself into a three year financing deal now

c] Draw up an additional list of super cars, start to tap dance, and wait and see what happens to Aunty

d} Invite the message board to miss the analogy completely and crack a bunch of jokes instead.

JW and Sam are tap dancing and Doctor Rothschild is in attendance at Aunty's place.

[BPF]

Don't worry everyone.

Whatever happens, we'll sign a young, unproven striker and sit him on the bench until Christmas.

[braddock]

it's the same negativity every year

we always do ok

we aren't going down this season so it'll be acceptable at worst

[John]

With £2.5 million anything is possible.

[RibbleValleyRover]

we aren't going down this season so it'll be acceptable at worst

You can't 100% guarantee that. All it takes is a number of injuries to key players or sides around us to spend a lot of money on players that have an impact on this league.

[nicko]

Been away, but why do you say there hasn't been a bid? The LT says it understands that "no bid has been accepted".

At a guess, I suspect a bid was lodged, but the trustees see no reason to accept or decline, until all the relevant details are/were aired.

You don't make an actual written bid until you know exactly what it is you are buying...but they are currently talking about buying.

[vintageadidas]

Nothing much happening at our club, but a decent website to add as a bookmark should you go away on holiday and so on is:

Transfer Centre

[nicko]

Not wanting to cause an argument but you have been selective with your snippets there and the general thrust of today's LT article is in fact exactly the opposite.

In it JW states it is very much "Business as usual" irrespective of the takeover situation.

The article states that the dilemma we face is whether to blow our whopping 2.5m budget now or hang on a bit in the hope we might be able to offload a couple of fringe players which would give us a bit of extra spending power.

Of course whether you believe that is a different matter entirely but that's the official line being taken by the club.

I think you might want to look at the actual quotes. The chairman is in an awkward position because of these takeover talkers. He admits that they have two strategies. One would mean money and better signings, the other would mean what we have just now...nothing doing.

That is not 'business as usual' in anyone's language. It is 'business as unusual' as many watchers have observed for years. You have NOT had anyone in talks at this level and at this delicate stage of the year in the past couple of decades.

[AJW]

You still need a car timmy otherwise you end up walking to work

[bob fleming]

I have a rich aunt twice removed.....

What do I do?

a] Nothing

b] Lock myself into a three year financing deal now

c] Draw up an additional list of super cars, start to tap dance, and wait and see what happens to Aunty

d} Invite the message board to miss the analogy completely and crack a bunch of jokes instead.

I'm with d) on this every time.

[philipl]

Not wanting to cause an argument but you have been selective with your snippets there and the general thrust of today's LT article is in fact exactly the opposite.

In it JW states it is very much "Business as usual" irrespective of the takeover situation.

The article states that the dilemma we face is whether to blow our whopping 2.5m budget now or hang on a bit in the hope we might be able to offload a couple of fringe players which would give us a bit of extra spending power.

Of course whether you believe that is a different matter entirely but that's the official line being taken by the club.

I think that is a fair summary of the article as I read it.

There is another reason for tap dancing/holding breath which has been totally ignored. I think it was reasonable to have anticipated a big bid for Samba by now and this still remains a possibility albeit a reducing one. That of course would make a significant difference to the club's transfer budget without a take over and could also explain the reported links of Rovers to defenders in anticipation of such a bid.

[Iceman]

You don't make an actual written bid until you know exactly what it is you are buying...but they are currently talking about buying.

so what have these guys done Nicko? 1st you hear that a bid has been sent via fax, then you hear no bid has been made. Dont you need paper in order to send a fax, in that case that must have been a written bid. Signed, Sealed, and waiting to be delivered.

[nicko]

so what have these guys done Nicko? 1st you hear that a bid has been sent via fax, then you hear no bid has been made. Dont you need paper in order to send a fax, in that case that must have been a written bid. Signed, Sealed, and waiting to be delivered.

I think they have been in talks with Rovers for over a month - maybe even over two months. It got serious about four-five weeks ago and what they could - and I stress could - have sent was a letter stating that they were interested in buying the club. Since then both sides have been checking each other out.

There is a lot involved in buying Rovers. As someone mentioned on another thread, one major factor is the training ground and [a] what you can do with it and what money could you make on it.

[philipl]

The new squad rules of course are probably going to have an impact on the window closing paranoia It is either going to make the last days even more frenetic or totally jam the system closed as clubs find themselves having to move one in, one out to balance the squad numbers. Would be desperately unfair on a player who expects to get a squad number only to find a new signing made at 23.50 on 31 August means he is going to spend probably 12 months out of the game with no prospect of getting a move.

Practically all Premier League clubs had squads last season which were non-compliant with the new Premier League rules.

Almost certainly as 31 August draws closer, there will be players who are at PL clubs who will not be getting squad numbers under the new 18+7 formula. They will be looking for moves and could become a source as the window draws to a close for a club like Rovers.

Quite how Bosman rules etc are going to fit with a contracted player not being given a squad number and therefore being prevented from practising his trade is an interesting one.

[Veevs]

The new squad rules of course are probably going to have an impact on the window closing paranoia It is either going to make the last days even more frenetic or totally jam the system closed as clubs find themselves having to move one in, one out to balance the squad numbers. Would be desperately unfair on a player who expects to get a squad number only to find a new signing made at 23.50 on 31 August means he is going to spend probably 12 months out of the game with no prospect of getting a move.

Practically all Premier League clubs had squads last season which were non-compliant with the new Premier League rules.

Almost certainly as 31 August draws closer, there will be players who are at PL clubs who will not be getting squad numbers under the new 18+7 formula. They will be looking for moves and could become a source as the window draws to a close for a club like Rovers.

Quite how Bosman rules etc are going to fit with a contracted player not being given a squad number and therefore being prevented from practising his trade is an interesting one.

Isnt the rule 17+8?

There are an awful lot of legal things surrounding football as it stands..

1 - Owning a person (i.e. they cant move companies without considerable compensation.. i.e. a transfer fee) which contradicts employment law

2 - Non EU player work permits.. you can get a permit as a pharmasist earning 1/1000th of a premier league players wage without the limitations of national representation (e.g. number of games you played for your country)

3 - Home grown tallent.. goes against equal opportunity laws

4 - Fit and proper person rules - Go against employment law

These are just three of the multitude of laws that football has for its own set of rules beyond general actual law.

So far only one case though has overthown league rules in regards to the rules laid down by the leagues themselves.

[Guest Wen Y Hu]

So it's business as usual, is it? Get a load of this...

The LT has an exclusive on Costa and Deichmann coming to Blackburn: "now it has been revealed that ... Costa and ... Deichmann will also move" to Blackburn.

Apparently it is confirmed and is NOT rumour. Deichmann is a definite shoe-in and, well, Costa is a legend before its own breakfast. I can't believe Costa is coming.

Wake up and smell the coffee, everyone! It's part of a £66m investment and where do you think that dosh is coming from, 'ey? From your own pockets, you reckon? I doubt whether the whole town of Blackburn will be able to contain its excitement.

Anyone coming to Blackburn this year will be treated to a right malling.

Business as usual? Too right! Let the good times roll.

[nicko]

Who does Costa play for? And is he a Bosman?

[DanLad]

Who does Costa play for? And is he a Bosman?

Sorry, didn't read the link before posting...

[unluckymorton]

Who does Costa play for? And is he a Bosman?

Are you fishing for your column Nicko?