[Archived] Summer Transfer Topic

[trueblue]

There is no way Sam will head into the season with two strikers.

He'll be selling Roberts so there is more money to get a better calibre of striker for the first team, then he'll either get a freebie/loan to add competition.

He was trying to sign a fourth striker in January after McCarthy left, there is no way he'll go into the season with two strikers.

He might not have any choice LC

[John]

Sam Allardyce has stressed to the Blackburn board the importance of signing a top-class striker this summer. Rovers enjoyed a top-half finish in the Premier League last season and only came below ninth-placed Birmingham on goal difference. But Allardyce's men averaged just over a goal a game, with midfielder David Dunn their leading league scorer with nine goals while Jason Roberts and fellow striker Nikola Kalinic managed just six between them.

Allardyce believes Rovers must bring in another proven frontman if they are to improve on last season and has pleaded with the Ewood Park hierarchy to fund a summer signing.

"It's a key element and I have explained to the board that element is a critical one to where we might finish in the league," he told Sky Sports News.

"If we find somebody to score more goals we're certainly going to put more points on the board."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6261254,00.html

[gumboots]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001%E2%80%9302_FA_Premier_League#Blackburn_Rovers

Blackburn Rovers

Blackburn had little time to savour their Worthington Cup glory that resulted from a 2–1 win over Tottenham on 24 February - they were deep in the relegation mire and occupying third place from bottom. But Graeme Souness inspired his side, bolstered by the arrival of striker Andy Cole, to a considerable turnaround in form which saw them climb to 10th place in the final table.

So what you're saying basically is it's not just about the cost of each goal but the fact that without him we'd probably have gone down and therefore would have lost a load of money? He was a bargain in that he kept us up/inspired others to work hard enough to stay up/got the best out of Jansen/whatever, regardless of what he cost? I'm with you there

[Kelbo]

So what you're saying basically is it's not just about the cost of each goal but the fact that without him we'd probably have gone down and therefore would have lost a load of money? He was a bargain in that he kept us up/inspired others to work hard enough to stay up/got the best out of Jansen/whatever, regardless of what he cost? I'm with you there

The biggest asset Cole had was his movement around the box, he created space for his team mates with intelligent runs, this is so important to the second striker!!

[Hughesy]

But can we afford to get the two in without shifting out some players????

Wage budget is already stretched and any back-up player will surely command 20K a week?? With a decent striker on top 30-40K thats a serious increase in our wages that I'm just not conviced we can afford.

Even if Roberts goes I still only expect 1 to come in.

No way we would let Roberts go & only sign 1 player....NO CHANCE!

As for space....We have shifted Reid, Di Santo, Haworth, Marshall - and also trying to shift Zurab & a keeper.

Selling Roberts is a no brainer. He is a poor poor player. Obviously if no one was to come in to replace him then the move shouldnt happen, but clearly that isnt the plan. He is a championship player, the premiership was never his level.

Agreed - but only if it sees 2 players coming in & Also only if it brings a decent fee in of say £2-2.5m.

Roberts ability can be replaced/ improved by a number of free players out their (Mido/ Ilan/ Benjani).....whether they are worth signing is another matter though....as we might be best looking at a loanee such as Dos Santos/ Vela/ Caciedo etc.

[Kelbo]

So what you're saying basically is it's not just about the cost of each goal but the fact that without him we'd probably have gone down and therefore would have lost a load of money? He was a bargain in that he kept us up/inspired others to work hard enough to stay up/got the best out of Jansen/whatever, regardless of what he cost? I'm with you there

The biggest asset Cole had was his movement around the box, he created space for his team mates with intelligent runs, thus pulling defenders away from where they really want to be, this is so important to the second striker!!

[LeChuck]

So what you're saying basically is it's not just about the cost of each goal but the fact that without him we'd probably have gone down and therefore would have lost a load of money? He was a bargain in that he kept us up/inspired others to work hard enough to stay up/got the best out of Jansen/whatever, regardless of what he cost? I'm with you there

The problem is, at £8 million and £40k a week, we could have brought in someone else just as good who also was a lot younger, and therefore have the potential to recoup the money spent.

It was a very shorted sighted signing.

[RibbleValleyRover]

I wouldn't be opposed to selling Roberts if we can bring in a replacement for him plus another striker as well. We need three strikers going into the season (Four if we were playing a 4-4-2- which we won't be).

[Hughesy]

Il be happy with 3 + Hoilett. I think the boy has potential...but he needs game time to improve & prove his worth.

[Oklahoma]

Is Damien Plessis any good and would he be a first team player in the current Rovers Team?

According to L'equipe, Benfica are interested in him, they would pay less than €1 million.

If he is any good, Rovers should try to get him...

[OscarRaven]

The problem is, at £8 million and £40k a week, we could have brought in someone else just as good who also was a lot younger, and therefore have the potential to recoup the money spent.

It was a very shorted sighted signing.

John Stead?

[T4E]

The problem is, at £8 million and £40k a week, we could have brought in someone else just as good who also was a lot younger, and therefore have the potential to recoup the money spent.

It was a very shorted sighted signing.

We had to be short sighted, it was out first season back in the Premier League having moved heaven and Earth to get back here. We were in trouble at Christmas time and had to act, knowing that with Jack's recent death another relegation would have very likely been far more disasterous than the first.

We acted, we stayed up, and we've never looked back.

[gumboots]

The problem is, at £8 million and £40k a week, we could have brought in someone else just as good who also was a lot younger, and therefore have the potential to recoup the money spent.

It was a very shorted sighted signing.

at the time I don't think we realised that we had to look at younger players with resale value. That reality has only bit recently. Cole leaving Man Utd and coming to us gave us a feel good factor that was much needed at the time too. With hindsight we might have done it differently but at the time he was very important for us.

[92er]

The problem is, at £8 million and £40k a week, we could have brought in someone else just as good who also was a lot younger, and therefore have the potential to recoup the money spent.

It was a very shorted sighted signing.

Souness had already made a very far sighted signing. a younger man who was extremely talented and for not much less than £8 mil and was going to recreate his Italian success over here.

Grabbi was a dismal failure.

Cole saved Souness' job and saved us from relegation as well as helping us win a cup.

[92er]

at the time I don't think we realised that we had to look at younger players with resale value. That reality has only bit recently. Cole leaving Man Utd and coming to us gave us a feel good factor that was much needed at the time too. With hindsight we might have done it differently but at the time he was very important for us.

According to the Press at the time, Uncle Jack was always interested in signing players with a re-sale value.

[nicko]

Not sure of the significance of this...but just found out there are two players due to come in on trial AFTER Australia.

Possibly because you can't get a visa in a hurry.

Or maybe the whole picture will be clearer re finance in that time-scale.

Teymourian on trial? Did someone say 'business as usual?'

[PAFELL]

Not sure of the significance of this...but just found out there are two players due to come in on trial AFTER Australia.

Possibly because you can't get a visa in a hurry.

Or maybe the whole picture will be clearer re finance in that time-scale.

Teymourian on trial? Did someone say 'business as usual?'

First who are the two players.

Yes it could be Visa issues? Or they could be playing in the same tournament.

But could also be with regards to new money or lack of new money available. Pity Rovers could not get Bellamy back.

[AJW]

Possibly because you can't get a visa in a hurry.

Sorry ..does that mean they are not uk based players?

[Bobby G]

I doubt the take-over or any angle of it will be finalized within 2 weeks. I think it will hit the end of the window personally.

[John]

Take a few mins to get Visas for Australia for travel purposes - more likely the cost of getting them over there is seen as pointless.

[nicko]

Does that mean they are not uk based players?

Yes, both are foreign.

[Dunnfc]

Nicko is it true burnley have accepted a 1.3 million bid from rangers for eagles? I know he's got 12 months on his current deal left and can be inconsistent but he's exactley the same as bentley was prior coming here.

What do youake of him Nicko?

[Majiball]

Yes, both are foreign.

I know you won't name them, but in your opinion are they worth looking at????

[Oklahoma]

Yes, both are foreign.

Halliche and Yebda

[TimmyJimmy]

People are often forced to do what they don't want to do, deal with it.

In Brads case he didn't want to go, yet he went. Does that mean he was telling fibs? No, if he said he didn't want to go then he didn't want to go. Other factors come into play though and then you find your hand forced. Doesn't mean anyone was misinformed or that he was telling porkys, sh!t happens, it has to be dealt with. Robbo's a good keeper so it could have been a lot worse, remind me who replaced Shearer.

In Jason's case, I don't think Sam wants to sell, but we need more fire power. It doesn't mean he thinks Jason's rubbish despite what others on here are saying, he's just not the best. Sam's weighing up whether to take a punt and if Jason's got to make way then that's life. The downside is that it's a bit of a Hail Mary, Jason is a known quantity and I'd rather have him coming on as sub for us than against us. If we replace him with someone with a big reputation then we might end up with another McCarthy (yes I know he had a good 1st season ... but then?) or Di Santo or Grabbi. Better the devil we know?

Oh to live in a world where judgements don't have to be made, but unfortunately we don't. I don't want Jason to go but I'm happy for Sam to make that decision if he feels it best on balance for the team.