[Archived] Summer Transfer Topic

[savage90]

  On 30/08/2010 at 11:02, Topman said:

Time for a Hughesy moment *dons cap*:

Warnock

McCarthy

Reid

- All of them must have been earning upwards of £30k p/week.

Warnock sold for £7m, less £30k+ p/week.

McCarthy sold for £2.25m, less £30k+ p/week.

Reid released on a free, less £30k+ p/week.

Bonus money for finishing above budget.

Chimbonda signed for £2.5m, can't (daren't) imagine he's on the same packet as Warnock.

Payrises for Pedersen, Jones, Nzonzi, and Hanley.

And our transfer budget is only £2.25m?

More questions than answers. Let's face it, the numbers never add up.

What about the 4million euro's for Derbyshire and the 17 million pounds for Santa Cruz.

[Amo]

  On 30/08/2010 at 11:07, savage90 said:

What about the 4million euro's for Derbyshire and the 17 million pounds for Santa Cruz.

Good point, forgot about Derbyshire. The plot thickens.

As for Santa Cruz, I thought most of that went towards paying off miscellaneous debts, with a small portion leftover for Kalinic.

[Bobby G]

No one could have or would have done a better job under our conditions than Sam during these 2 seasons. He is the best man for the job. Its a shame that we are counting down and have a summer with only Benjani to show for it.

[chaddyrovers]

do will think we will sign anybody? I can't see us signing anybody. still think we should have sign the polish striker or the norway striker. If's, but's and maybe's. Hope we are still looking for a striker. I would like us to sign Marcus Pedersen from Strømsgodset. But probably would cost to much!!

[The Rover of Finland]

  On 30/08/2010 at 11:07, savage90 said:

What about the 4million euro's for Derbyshire and the 17 million pounds for Santa Cruz.

What about Portsmouth? I am very frustrated as everyone else because we can´t buy anyone. But it seems to be only way to keep Blackburn Rovers alive. No business company can survive long time if 91% incomes goes on wages. Our squad is good enough to keep PL status but not good enough to Euro places. Things won´t get any better if takeover fails.

[tony gale's mic]

  On 29/08/2010 at 20:55, JWP said:

It's simple, the customer is 'King'.

Suggest that you read some recent articles on Leahy the retiring Tesco guru and the customer principles / focus he adopted.

Any point which compares a football club to other non football related businesses is redundant by default.

The customer is king, so we should spend millions of pounds that we don't even have on players.

If Tesco overspent and went into administration, the customers wouldn't really care; they'd just shop at Sainsburys or Morrisons.

If Blackburn Rovers went into administration, we wouldnt all just shrug our shoulders and support Burnley would we?

I suggest MikeB puts his toys back into his pram and starts developing some patience; a takeover is coming soon.

You wouldn't buy a new conservatory just as you had the house up for sale...

[Hi Mack]

I cannot see anyone out there who is within our budget, and will improve our 1st team!

EDIT** Maybe Scharner.........

Therefore, is there really any point in adding someone to the wage bill and then find it hard to move them

on when/if the takeover goes through, ala Roberts, Zurab.

[Stuart]

  On 30/08/2010 at 11:26, tony gale said:

You wouldn't buy a new conservatory just as you had the house up for sale...

I don't want a conservatory, what I need is a front door. There's a nice big temporary door there at the minute that's doing a job but my mate might be needing it back soon. Anything happens to that before January though and I could be in trouble.

Daft thing is the old door is adequate until I save up for a new one but it squeaks a bit so I thought it best to stick it in the shed, out of the way. As soon as I shift it on ebay I might have enough cash to buy a bit of wood and make my own door, or even get an old one from the tip and get a bit of varnish for it.

[MarkBRFC71]

  On 30/08/2010 at 06:34, jim mk2 said:

Yes, because Allardyce knows this league inside and out and is doing a very good job for BRFC, there's no guarantee the takeover will go through or even if it does go ahead that £100m will be available, and "someone like Slaven Bilic" is not necessarily better than Allardyce and in all probability would be considerable worse. Do you you know anything about football because you give the impression of being a complete blathering idiot ?

Ahhh, my aged stalker returns.

How do you know someone else will be worse? (And it's 'considerably' worse. Perhaps best to not make mistakes like that if you're going to call someone an idiot, and not make yourself look like a senile, half-baked cretin in the process).

And given your ludicrous comments about MGP you're in no position to question anyone else's knowledge of football.

[47er]

  On 30/08/2010 at 12:05, MarkBRFC71 said:

Ahhh, my aged stalker returns.

How do you know someone else will be worse? (And it's 'considerably' worse. Perhaps best to not make mistakes like that if you're going to call someone an idiot, and not make yourself look like a senile, half-baked cretin in the process).

And given your ludicrous comments about MGP you're in no position to question anyone else's knowledge of football.

We don't KNOW that someone else would be worse but there's a fair chance of it don't you think or wasn't 10th high enough for you? After Ince I personally am "risk averse'.

[imy9]

Mark-your right we don't know whether or not someone would or would not be successful as manager of rovers, however what you do get with sam is a very experienced premier league manager who can pretty much assure you of premier league safety and then mid table finishes, that's the best we can hope for with our current budget

[MarkBRFC71]

  On 30/08/2010 at 12:09, 47er said:

We don't KNOW that someone else would be worse but there's a fair chance of it don't you think or wasn't 10th high enough for you? After Ince I personally am "risk averse'.

I never said anywhere in my original post that Sam wasn't doing a decent job considering the financial constraints he's working under, but Jim chose to jump on it that way. I was trying to say that in my opinion if Sam did choose to jump ship and join Villa, then there's no need for people to start throwing themselves off the town centre car park, or plotting their routes to Championship grounds - certainly some posters seem to think if Sam left, relegation would be inevitable.

If Sam left, and assuming the takeover goes through, we'd have funds for players, and that in itself would be attractive to a lot of higher profile managers. I just don't see that it would be a major disaster, is all. A short-term setback maybe.

[JWP]

It's easy to knock Rovers and one another on this site. I'm pretty new to this site but I'm staggered by how much some members slag others off.

What really frustrates is the lack of any communication out of Ewood. Is our window closed, are we looking to sell, are we looking to buy or is buy subject to sell.

I think the supporters have a right to know.

I'm sure others have raised this before but who is to blame for the lavish contracts that all our deadwood are sitting on and hence we can't shift them. JW can't be absolved from this.

[Hughesy]

  On 30/08/2010 at 11:02, Topman said:

Time for a Hughesy moment *dons cap*:

Warnock

McCarthy

Reid

- All of them must have been earning upwards of £30k p/week.

Warnock sold for £7m, less £30k+ p/week.

McCarthy sold for £2.25m, less £30k+ p/week.

Reid released on a free, less £30k+ p/week.

Bonus money for finishing above budget.

Chimbonda signed for £2.5m, can't (daren't) imagine he's on the same packet as Warnock.

Payrises for Pedersen, Jones, Nzonzi, and Hanley.

And our transfer budget is only £2.25m?

More questions than answers. Let's face it, the numbers never add up.

Ok we have already been told Warnock was sold to plug the £5m gap which we never closed (The £5m reducation in wage bill which NEVER happened) - I would imagine Chimbonda would have come in on similar wages to Warnock.

McCarthy money should still be their - however his wages + the bonus money was used on Salgado's wages (Dont forget he wasnt budgetted for).

Reid's wages - probably taken up by Jones increase, NZonzi increase, MGP slight increase. Perhaps the remainder goes towards covering Salgado's wages this season.

Unfortunatley they do add up!

  On 30/08/2010 at 11:26, tony gale said:

I suggest MikeB puts his toys back into his pram and starts developing some patience; a takeover is coming soon.

You wouldn't buy a new conservatory just as you had the house up for sale...

Excellent example.

[Greedy_Crawford]

Sorry guys, the debate on here is getting a bit mad.

Back on topic - we might as well close the thread as we won't be bringing in any one else before 6pm tomorrow, unless you count this weeks delivery of pies...

Not happy about this like most, but we should not be surprised we are not spending money whilst in the throws of a takeover. The squad is good enough to stay out of the bottom three before January, when hopefully with a takeover completed there will be some additional money to spend. Just hope I have strong enough neck muscles to watch the direct football between now and then seeing as we have no real creativity in midfield...

[Amo]

  On 30/08/2010 at 12:02, Hi Mack said:

I cannot see anyone out there who is within our budget, and will improve our 1st team!

EDIT** Maybe Scharner.........

Therefore, is there really any point in adding someone to the wage bill and then find it hard to move them

on when/if the takeover goes through, ala Roberts, Zurab.

Unless you work in the game, you can't really comment. Did anyone call most of our cheap coups in the last ten years? I don't believe there aren't bargains out there within our budget - it's just having the foresight to find them.

[joey_big_nose]

  On 30/08/2010 at 11:02, Topman said:

Chimbonda signed for £2.5m, can't (daren't) imagine he's on the same packet as Warnock.

I bet you Chimbonda is on substantially more than Warnock was at Rovers. He came from Spurs, and before that a cash rich Sunderland and Spurs again before that. Each of those moves he would have at least matched his salary as they were done in contract, plus Spurs bought him from Wigan when he was considered one of the best right backs in the country.

It would not be that unlikely if he was the highest paid player at the club in my opinion, with that transfer history. Sad to say. Worst piece of business by Sam.

[rebelmswar]

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[alexanders]

Nicko, how is haggling with the Bulgarians going?

Wiki now says that the deal depends on IF we manage to offload a player first (Roberts).

[Hi Mack]

  On 30/08/2010 at 12:29, Topman said:

Unless you work in the game, you can't really comment. Did anyone call most of our cheap coups in the last ten years? I don't believe there aren't bargains out there within our budget - it's just having the foresight to find them.

I CAN comment....If you read what i said it says "I cant see anyone".

And if the scouts have seen a "Bargain" surely we'd have bid by now!

[S15]

  On 30/08/2010 at 12:37, alexanders said:

Nicko, how is haggling with the Bulgarians going?

Wiki now says that the deal depends on IF we manage to offload a player first (Roberts).

Have you just quoted wiki?

[Iceman]

  On 30/08/2010 at 12:24, Hughesy said:

Ok we have already been told Warnock was sold to plug the £5m gap which we never closed (The £5m reducation in wage bill which NEVER happened) - I would imagine Chimbonda would have come in on similar wages to Warnock.

McCarthy money should still be their - however his wages + the bonus money was used on Salgado's wages (Dont forget he wasnt budgetted for).

Reid's wages - probably taken up by Jones increase, NZonzi increase, MGP slight increase. Perhaps the remainder goes towards covering Salgado's wages this season.

Unfortunatley they do add up!

Excellent example.

Sam was told to adjust his 13th or whatever place it is in the league, that we were suppose to end on, in order to cover Salgado's wages. It had nothing to do with the Benni money, and in all seriousness, are we actually surprised that money has yet again disappeared?

[rebelmswar]

  On 30/08/2010 at 12:40, shillito15 said:

Have you just quoted wiki?

The desperation to sign someone just became terminal.

  On 30/08/2010 at 12:42, Iceman said:

Sam was told to adjust his 13th or whatever place it is in the league, that we were suppose to end on, in order to cover Salgado's wages. It had nothing to do with the Benni money, and in all seriousness, are we actually surprised that money has yet again disappeared?

I thought the Warnock money was supposed to cover Salgado, but then who was the Cruz money supposed to cover? Benni was cover for who? Finishing 3 places higher cover for who? Who covers Niko? Who covers Benji? Who covers Jacobson? Who covers Chimpyboy? W H O?

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[Amo]

  On 30/08/2010 at 12:24, Hughesy said:

Unfortunatley they do add up!

And the £3m for Derbyshire?

  On 30/08/2010 at 12:36, joey_big_nose said:

I bet you Chimbonda is on substantially more than Warnock was at Rovers. He came from Spurs, and before that a cash rich Sunderland and Spurs again before that. Each of those moves he would have at least matched his salary as they were done in contract, plus Spurs bought him from Wigan when he was considered one of the best right backs in the country.

If I don't read that, it's not true!

  On 30/08/2010 at 12:40, Hi Mack said:

And if the scouts have seen a "Bargain" surely we'd have bid by now!

'If' being the operative word.

[MarkBRFC71]

  On 30/08/2010 at 12:36, joey_big_nose said:

I bet you Chimbonda is on substantially more than Warnock was at Rovers. He came from Spurs, and before that a cash rich Sunderland and Spurs again before that. Each of those moves he would have at least matched his salary as they were done in contract, plus Spurs bought him from Wigan when he was considered one of the best right backs in the country.

It would not be that unlikely if he was the highest paid player at the club in my opinion, with that transfer history. Sad to say. Worst piece of business by Sam.

That's probably right, but hard to read without feeling sick just a little!