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Yeah, Wenger just loves his first touch.

Spurs were at the game last weekend...watching someone else.

The big chap may have to climb down very shortly.

Nice to see the line about angling for a move for some time has come out.

How's your rebellion going?

Probably watching Scott Parker, and I guess they liked what they saw.

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What makes me laugh is Samba says he wants to leave due to the way Big Sam was treated but Kean has said today on SSN that Samba's agent has told him that he has wanted to leave for 12 months.

Uhhhh ... He signed a new contract about 15 months ago. So apparently he signed a new contract even though he wanted to jump ship? Did he change his mind after 3 months?

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What makes me laugh is Samba says he wants to leave due to the way Big Sam was treated but Kean has said today on SSN that Samba's agent has told him that he has wanted to leave for 12 months. Kean 1 Samba 0 ... Its been great having you Samba but don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out. We want men at our time of need not people using the Sam as an excuse to jump ship.

Good post Cesus :rolleyes:

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Contracts mean naff all in football, you are very naïve Miker if you think that footballers at a smaller club like our (unfortunately) sign contracts for any other reason than to earn more cash until a better offer comes along. For me Kean has no need to lie about Samba and people can see SSN for themselves the quote is there.

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I'm not trying to argue with you Miker, all I'm saying is the club is rocking at then moment and our captain has gone public in his desire to leave us, he can leave I have no problem with that at all. Agents can contact other clubs in private, Samba's agent could have done that but no he went public and has added to the pantomine that is Blackburn Rover Football club at the moment.

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Sorry, I forgot that players are evil, deceitful liars and Steve Kean is our knight in shining armour.

So you actually believe that Samba wants to leave over Sam and isn't just using this as the excuse that he's been waiting for? To give him some credit, many players wouldn't even wait for that excuse to come along.

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If Samba feels we aren't a club that he wishes to play for any more then fair enough. I don't personally hold that against him. As Miker says, there are analogous scenarios in vocations other than Professional Football that most people would never complain about. I am somewhat dubious about it being the only reason but still.

In the long term we currently have four good CB's who we are currently trying to shoehorn into the same team. Even on the proviso that Nelson is entering his later years, selling one to address the desperate deficiencies in the middle of midfield we've had for YEARS is not the worse bit of business I could imagine.

It should be noted that said deficiency hasn't been addressed by previous management, both recent and old. The team playing with four center-backs being largely down to the previous one.

If our admittedly very green manager was to make a good stab at addressing both those issues in January I would venture he'd be off to a good start. We shall see.

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there WILL be investment in new players , no-one will HAVE to leave , if anyone who WANTS to leave they can - for the right price , the young up-and-coming players WILL NOT be sold

its been a long time since we've heard those kind of statements

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11676_6609006,00.html

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I quit my job and went somewhere better after the management in my company changed. The new managers were incompetent and made things unbearable at work. Best decision I made in my life. They all got sacked not long after due to a myriad of issues and now they have even worse management there, so much so that all the remaining seniors have now quit as well and moved on.

If Samba doesn't find himself enjoying life at the club anymore then it's his prerogative to leave.

Owners don't care who they bring in, but those that have to work for them do.

People comparing football to real life workplace situations is one of the more ridiculous things that you can read on here, yet it happens frequently.

Do you have 20k people turn up to your work once or twice a week to cheer your name, sing your praises and spend their own hard earned cash on keeping you rich? Your only responsibility is to yourself and your family - a footballers responsibilities go far deeper than that.

When all is going well and the player is happy then we often hear statements about how important the fans are. Once that player has had enough we get shoved to one side and they become self serving.

If a player wants to leave that's fine, they should be allowed to do so. But they should do it in a way that show respect to the people that made them and the only ones they can rely on - us.

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People comparing football to real life workplace situations is one of the more ridiculous things that you can read on here, yet it happens frequently.

Do you have 20k people turn up to your work once or twice a week to cheer your name, sing your praises and spend their own hard earned cash on keeping you rich? Your only responsibility is to yourself and your family - a footballers responsibilities go far deeper than that.

When all is going well and the player is happy then we often hear statements about how important the fans are. Once that player has had enough we get shoved to one side and they become self serving.

If a player wants to leave that's fine, they should be allowed to do so. But they should do it in a way that show respect to the people that made them and the only ones they can rely on - us.

Very well put. Samba has gone down in my estimation just as others have done before him. We realise they don't 'support' the club in the way that the fans do, but just show us some respect. Look at the good reception Robbo gets when he returns to former clubs. Says a lot about the man really.

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Who can blame Samba for wanting away? BRFCS is a mess currently and I say good luck to him! I think most stupid person currently is Kean for thinking he will get big investment from the current mob in charge!

But the point is, it looks very much as though he's been 'wanting away' for a very long time and has chosen now to let that be known.

Just when we needed a captain to stand up and be counted too.

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