[Archived] Ins and outs

[Ricky]

You only want us to sign keane so you can belatedly be right lol.

[S15]

The Sun have been the cleverest of all the rags reporting this story, as they've taken an Allardyce quote from long before the takeover was compete and made it seem like it's in direct response to what they are 'reporting' in the piece.

Notepads at the ready chaps.

[trueblue]

I am quite sure in takeover negotiations the subject of player recruitment and who had the final say would have been covered in some detail.

THe Trustees must either have been happy that despite input from Kentaro the final say on player recruitment lay with the Board and the manager OR if that was not to be the case they must have sold the Club anyway in full knowledge of that fact. Either way I can't believe Sam's and Jw's opinions were not canvassed by the Trustees along the way and as such it's hard to believe the situation (whatever it may be) is coming as a complete shock to them.

Come on Rev.. where has it been stated that the Trust have consulted with JW or Sam at ANY STAGE during the take over? For me, I can well believe that the Trust will have agreed to things without JW or SA's knowledge in order to push the sale through. After all, are the employee's ever consulted when one company is taken over by another? not in my experience they arent.

[Craigman]

Allardyce demands Control !! - The Telegraph

[PAFELL]

Not just Nicko and LET reporting a potential clash between Sam and Venkys !

Add the telegraph to that list - I do not know how to post links.

But now we have the Mirror, Let, Sun, Telegraph all pointing to, shall we say unhealthy rumblings within the club.

[brian_gallagher85]

Looking at all the "facts" that have been presented so far from various sources, on our confirmed targets of RSC and Keane, I don't see what the problem is in our owners seeking other available transfer targets. If Robbie Keane and RSC are our main targets then I'm more worried about what Sams doing, not Venkys et al.

I'm fully behind Sam in picking the team but having some extra input in the transfer market can't be a bad thing.

I also believe that the LT have reported this out of frustration at possibly not being "in the loop" anymore.

[Paul]

The Sun have been the cleverest of all the rags reporting this story, as they've taken an Allardyce quote from long before the takeover was compete and made it seem like it's in direct response to what they are 'reporting' in the piece.

Notepads at the ready chaps.

Surely the only quote in the Sun link is from Jason Wilcox?

[John]

With a stable club pulling together we could have a decent season - this part of the Telegraph summarises that point well.....

With Rovers due to face Bolton at the Reebok on Sunday before games against West Ham, Stoke, West Brom and Sunderland, there is a belief within the club that the team could be sitting comfortably in the top 10 by the time the transfer window opens on Jan 1.

And with the financial backing of the Indian owners giving the club new ambition in the transfer market, Allardyce will aim to persuade his new bosses of the possibilities open to Blackburn should they invest wisely in January.

[Mattyblue]

I am just aghast that allegedly such changes to the management structure are being planned.

As a club we have been seriously lacking in transfer funds for some time, however we have been a beacon of stability in a game that so badly lacks it. In my opinion the club's infrastructure is basically sound- though a need is there for a bigger transfer fee budget.

So, why threaten the Chairman/Manager axis that has worked so well, for what sounds like a Director of Football/Sporting Director scenario (that can work) but with a big difference- those Directors being Agents with vested interests deciding on transfer policy and targets.

[MikeB]

Venkys talked a good game on takeover, however, what now seems to be going on is very alarming.

If the newspapers have this right, you can only see JW & Sam being replaced sooner rather than later.

For the first time since the dark days of the Ince era, I genuinely fear for our club.

As an aside, I don't condone Ashley's sacking of Houghton but this guy has the right idea - pay his next manager by results and don't reward failure. Hopefully, will spread throughout football applying to both managers and players and will restore some much needed sanity to our game.

[jim mk2]

This is all very worrying.

The new owners barely have their feet under the table and already there is talk of deals being lined up without consulting the manager.

Keeping Sam Allardyce at this club is far more important than a few big-name signings to please the vanity of the owners and supporters. .

If Allardyce were to leave I predict relegation if not this season then certainly next season.

[BuckyRover]

This is all very worrying.

The new owners barely have their feet under the table and already there is talk of deals being lined up without consulting the manager.

Keeping Sam Allardyce at this club is far more important than a few big-name signings to please the vanity of the owners and supporters. .

If Allardyce were to leave I predict relegation if not this season then certainly next season.

But you also think relegation this season with Sam in charge is a distinct possibility so I am not too concerned with your visions of the future.

Wait and see. We have new owners who do things in a different way to the trust. Not surprising.

[jim mk2]

But you also think relegation this season with Sam in charge is a distinct possibility so I am not too concerned with your visions of the future.

Wait and see. We have new owners who do things in a different way to the trust. Not surprising.

Sensible owners do not change something that works so excuse me for being worried about the future of the club.

[nicko]

Whilst I personally am not completely averse to the potential recruitment of RSC, playing devil's advocate, many might say we need the extra input of Kentaro if the best idea Sam can come up with is Roque and his dodgy knees.

You can't have it both ways nicko, weren't you fiercely critical yourself of the idea of bringing in Roque?

I don't think signing Roque is a good idea - or any kind of idea - at all.

But I don't see why reporting that there is a growing problem about signing targets has got anything to do with my opinion about Roque being one of those targets.

Confused by that one.

What Nicko posted on here over the past few weeks included that Sam would inevitably be under pressure when new owners take over and that Jerome Anderson could be our new Chairman at some stage...

I didn't say Jerome Anderson was going to be chairman at any point. I said he would probably have a director of football role.

So let's have that right please.

[koi]

If SAM wants Rocky and a deal is to be done then what's the problem? I don't agree with it, many wont agree with it bit if that's what Sam wants and the board back him is the not the correct way to run a club?

[RibbleValleyRover]

Whilst I personally am not completely averse to the potential recruitment of RSC, playing devil's advocate, many might say we need the extra input of Kentaro if the best idea Sam can come up with is Roque and his dodgy knees.

Good point Rev I was thinking this the other day.

Gary O'Neil, Roque Santa Cruz, Tuncay, Robbie Keane, Carew. Hardly inspiring targets. Two injury prone strikers, another striker that I can't see fitting in our system, a match of the day player (looks great on 30 seconds of highlights) and a Championship level midfielder.

[yeti-dog]

Not for the first time, Revidge is completely missing the point.

There is nothing astonishing at all in the LT coverage if you consider that yes, everything was discussed and agreed, then the spokesmen for Jerome Anderson announce live on Sky that what has been agreed is being totally disregarded followed up by a Mirror headline that Sam is being undermined or words to that effect and stuff on this MB that the inevitable sparks are going to fly and that ths is totally consistent with what he had been posting for weeks.

What Nicko posted on here over the past few weeks included that Sam would inevitably be under pressure when new owners take over and that Jerome Anderson could be our new Chairman at some stage...

Is the LT article a surprise?

I will happily repeat, I will be absolutely delighted if in a week's time my posts are regarded as the deranged ramblings of an old drama queen. I will be even more happy if Newcastle United's players are easily available on the market.

I don't need a week philip...I'm happy to tell you now that you do indeed sound like a drama queen. More to the point,considering your stance all through this process I think your drama queen has been desperately wanting to flounce

on to centre stage for a considerable period of time.

[roversmum]

Sensible owners do not change something that works so excuse me for being worried about the future of the club.

No, but they might want to consider others/new ideas - in fact I hope they do, there is the question of the Riverside for starters.

It's early days. I am quite sure there will be happenings that I personally am not happy about but it won't be the first time! John Williams is still at the helm, and as has been said you no longer have to visit a country to have a meeting.

[Amo]

Wait and see. We have new owners who do things in a different way to the trust. Not surprising.

I was going to PM you but your box is full:

I'm glad there's at least one voice of reason in this whole Kentaro/transfer affair. Seeing as there's no proof at all about a bust-up between Venky's & the manager, I don't know why people are jumping the gun so soon.

I also back what someone else said re: Santa Cruz/Robbie Keane. What on earth are we paying scouts for if that's the fruit of our labours?

[nicko]

Just read The Sun and Daily Telegraph stories. It's basically a repitition of what has been out before.

However I do detect that someone inside the building is quite happy to stir this up on top of the info that was out there before. Intriguing.

From what I hear after the 'summit' there will be money to spend and the plan is to land a 'name' in the window.

Not sure if that is a 'name' on loan or to buy.

But the bottom line is that the owners want somebody who will put them in a good light.

Who comes up with the idea is another matter.

The bottom line, though, is WHO is signed.

[BuckyRover]

Happy to stir it up?

Interesting. I hope Sam isn't trying to create a legacy (forced to quit by the nasty foreigners).

[Majiball]

Just read The Sun and Daily Telegraph stories. It's basically a repitition of what has been out before.

However I do detect that someone inside the building is quite happy to stir this up on top of the info that was out there before. Intriguing.

From what I hear after the 'summit' there will be money to spend and the plan is to land a 'name' in the window.

Not sure if that is a 'name' on loan or to buy.

But the bottom line is that the owners want somebody who will put them in a good light.

Who comes up with the idea is another matter.

The bottom line, though, is WHO is signed.

Isn't a name what Sam asked for?

SWP it is then, pity I'd rather have Ireland.

[Guest Walshy]

Just read The Sun and Daily Telegraph stories. It's basically a repitition of what has been out before.

However I do detect that someone inside the building is quite happy to stir this up on top of the info that was out there before. Intriguing.

From what I hear after the 'summit' there will be money to spend and the plan is to land a 'name' in the window.

Not sure if that is a 'name' on loan or to buy.

But the bottom line is that the owners want somebody who will put them in a good light.

Who comes up with the idea is another matter.

The bottom line, though, is WHO is signed.

ROMARIO!!!!!!

[nicko]

Isn't a name what Sam asked for?

SWP it is then, pity I'd rather have Ireland.

I suspect an effort will be made to get a 'star' that all parties would be happy with.

But ultimately the people who pay the money will want to be happy about the choice.

[BuckyRover]

I suspect an effort will be made to get a 'star' that all parties would be happy with.

But ultimately the people who pay the money will want to be happy about the choice.

No they won't. Kentaro are doing everything above the managers head, against his wishes and to the detriment of BRFC because our new owners are chancers and have no idea.

That's right isn't it everyone?

(Not aimed at you nicko)