[Archived] Rovers Takeover: End game ?

[Majiball]

Sam's comments are in the LT and the Sun. Probably elsewhere as well.

For the record, I have no financial interests in Syed, Shah, Venky's, mystery man, the Trust or Rovers.

Ricky, your PMs are full.

Sam's Interview

I'm surprised they only spent a couple of minutes with if being honest, but time could have been a factor especially on a match day.

I was wondering if some could clear something up for me? I saw Venky's & pals via ESPN, but where were JW etc in relation. JW normally sits with Sam first half did he then go and sit with Venky's? Did any of the board?

[OJRovers]

If I remember correctly, you say yourself you have not read every post.

However, I do know the £1bn is real and the £300m for Rovers is real- I even know the name of the bank account it is in. And that information has not come from the Syed camp. Of course it is one thing to deposit a sum in a bank account and another to write cheques and fulfilling conditions but there is money where the mouth is.

Is that a personal account of Mr Syed or an account of one of his companies?

[brian_gallagher85]

The whole saga has been mentally damaging to the vast majority of posters on here and that extends to newer members to these forums like myself and also to the old guard like Philipl et al.

The whole thing has caused a complete breakdown in rational thought going into a lot of posts as the last few pages and even threads have shown.

The fact remains that the Trust have the final say in who they sell to. The fact that they are not selling the club to what appears to be the highest bidder has to speak volumes about his bid in general.

As a result of this then any last minute hiccups in the VH deal will be flagged up and the Trust should be trusted to make the correct decision.

The most important thing is that the club continues to exist as a functioning football club that we can all support and preferably at the very highest level as we are now.

Sam's Interview

Sam sounds quite positive about both the takeover and his future from those comments if I'm being honest.

[Majiball]

The problem is that there were far more doubts surrounding Syed. Doubts which genuinely questioned his financial capability. You wrote off those doubts time and time again, but clearly the Trust do have serious concerns regarding aspects of his bid. You cannot deny that. Venky's have the money. Not as much, but enough. The concerns regarding them revolve around the involvement of Kentaro, which i accept could be concerning, however is not in the same sphere of concern as Syed.

A large proven, international business versus a guy nobody has heard of with funds which very few people can validate. One sounds far more concerning than the other from my perspective.

Syed was totally unrealistic in his aspirations. Buying Beckham? Champions League football? He needed us fans to back him because clearly there were issues with his bid. Why come out with that stuff otherwise? Cheap PR stunts do not wash well and so they shouldnt.

I'm not pro either, but syed it would seem has at least 1 billion, several people have confirmed it and wasn't his middle east closed down not because the accounts where doctored but because apparently you can't dump 1 billion in like that there? I could be wrong on that as finances are not my thing, but it seemed to me he had at least one of them, it was the 8 total that seemed unclear.

If you do not see having a vulture with a direct and trusted line to the main money men as a big issue fine, a lot do.

VH have also said champions league football, haven't they. Yes Beckham was a step to far, but Venky's think we are in the championship is that not as bad?

Balance.

Some people on here are far too desperate for some cash after a barren summer.

Sam sounds quite positive about both the takeover and his future from those comments if I'm being honest.

Personally I think he sounds in different and is waiting to see what they say, should they buy the club.

I hope they keep him on. I may not be his biggest fan but he will keep us up during this turbulent time.

[SamDingle]

Your new owners

Seriously? This is it?! What happened to the multi billionaire?

When does the sale begin?

[dave birch]

People should understand that no Blackburn Rovers fan on this board has vested financial interests in the take-over.

One would hope not (but there is no proof of that), but one of the contributors to this site gets paid for his endeavours.

[Majiball]

Your new owners

Seriously? This is it?! What happened to the multi billionaire?

When does the sale begin?

Go have a soapy t!t w@nk.

[Kelbo]

Your new owners

Seriously? This is it?! What happened to the multi billionaire?

When does the sale begin?

Oh dear, the dizzy heights of the Championship have gone to his head, Sam, wait and see fella, you may just be left with egg on your face

[brian_gallagher85]

I think that is all the Dingle needs to make him slump back off to his cave in them der hills!!

Personally I think he sounds in different and is waiting to see what they say, should they buy the club.

I hope they keep him on. I may not be his biggest fan but he will keep us up during this turbulent time.

I can see what you mean, perhaps I should have phrased it better in that he sounds like he doesn't believe that his job is in as much danger as the headline would make us think.

[47er]

No I have not been used by anybody.

I am a Rovers supporter who is very concerned about where we are now. In these circumstances, I think it is always best to go with the money.

If the Syed money can arrive unencumbered and he is true to his word about not seeking its return, this is a no brainer. Big IF though.

My concern about the opposition to Syed and the Goldberg revelations is there are other agendas at work which don't have much to do with what is best for Blackburn Rovers.

Opposition to Syed and Goldberg's revelations play no part in my thinking at all. I agree with you its best to go with the money. So we'd have to ask why haven't the Trust done that?

Perhaps we will never know but if everything he claimed and promised is true Syed would be home in a canter.

[Majiball]

I think that is all the Dingle needs to make him slump back off to his cave in them der hills!!

I can see what you mean, perhaps I should have phrased it better in that he sounds like he doesn't believe that his job is in as much danger as the headline would make us think.

For obvious reasons Sam has every right to be wary of the takeover.

I just hope if it goes through they don't jump in with both feet.

Add in 2 players to the team on Saturday and if they can keep the intensity (not easy) we'd have a potent line-up.

[TimmyJimmy]

The whole saga has been mentally damaging to the vast majority of posters on here and that extends to newer members to these forums like myself and also to the old guard like Philipl et al.

The whole thing has caused a complete breakdown in rational thought going into a lot of posts as the last few pages and even threads have shown.

The fact remains that the Trust have the final say in who they sell to. The fact that they are not selling the club to what appears to be the highest bidder has to speak volumes about his bid in general.

As a result of this then any last minute hiccups in the VH deal will be flagged up and the Trust should be trusted to make the correct decision.

The most important thing is that the club continues to exist as a functioning football club that we can all support and preferably at the very highest level as we are now.

Spot on Brian, we've all got brain fade. As confused as we are about the pros and cons of the bids I guarantee that the same confusions, worries, fears all exist within the club. Just imagine if it was up to you/me personally to take this decision. The weight of history, the hopes and aspirations of the fans and former players and Jack's presence in the background like Banquo's ghost. They just have to get this right.

As I tried to allude to in an earlier post today I believe that certain members of the board, the trust and the family have come to different conclusions. There is no one perfect outcome to this sales process, every bidder has something to be said both for them and against them.

The positive thing is that I am absolutely certain that all the participants from the Rovers side of the table all have the best interests of the club at heart, they just differ on their interpretations as to what is the best course of action.

I am led to believe that the time draws nigh, so batten down the hatches, say a few Hail Mary's and maybe reflect on this :

"As the time draws nigh glooming a cloud,

A dread beyond of I know not what darkens me"

[Glenn]

There's no Kamy situation with Philip, so don't make the comparison.

Kamy situation ? Feel free to fill me in privately on what the Kamy situation is or was and how it differs from Philip.

[thenodrog]

If I remember correctly, you say yourself you have not read every post.

I have criticised Syed on here and the way he has gone about things.

However, I do know the £1bn is real and the £300m for Rovers is real- I even know the name of the bank account it is in. And that information has not come from the Syed camp. Of course it is one thing to deposit a sum in a bank account and another to write cheques and fulfilling conditions but there is money where the mouth is.

I have been supportive and positive about VH and Mrs Desai. I am scared witless by Kentaro and Jerome Anderson and believe they would destroy Rovers especially as the face of VH at Ewood will apparently be Belaji.

I've not read this thread much. It's too much like being a passenger on an aeroplane that is running out of fuel and going to crash. We can react and shout and scream all we want but we cannot influence a thing and the only people that can do anything are locked in the cockpit.

However just about everybody who has been linked with us have proven to be all fur coat and no knickers. We've had some mighty near misses. It's clearly a case of beggars not being choosers at the moment and although one should never judge a book by it's cover recent LT pictures of the current suitors do rather cause me to raise my guard. Open necked shirts, long lank hair and large vulgar medallions and bollywood playboy reputations do not suit the corporate and professional image that I would favour to see in our boardroom.

As I say though Philip beggars cannot be choosers The corporate professional types would rather stick pins in their eyes than own a poor club in the Prem. Truth is that everybody coveting us will have a profit driven motive and that is for certain sure, I very much doubt that there is a perfect fit out there.

[Al]

I'm really confused by this situation. It appears to be damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Certainly to continue with the trust is to die slowly of starvation. Shah appears to have given up, The Venky's don't appear to want to invest much and their partners/advisors frighten the crap out of me. The only one that appears to have the money (he has demonstrated that by depositing it in a separate account and making charitable donations)is Syed. I have no idea what possible objection there can be to his ownership but the trust do not appear to want to do business with him.

Where do we go from here? I can't influence it but on the surface the best bet appears to be Syed.

[dave birch]

I'm really confused by this situation. It appears to be damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Certainly to continue with the trust is to die slowly of starvation. Shah appears to have given up, The Venky's don't appear to want to invest much and their partners/advisors frighten the crap out of me. The only one that appears to have the money (he has demonstrated that by depositing it in a separate account and making charitable donations)is Syed. I have no idea what possible objection there can be to his ownership but the trust do not appear to want to do business with him.

Where do we go from here? I can't influence it but on the surface the best bet appears to be Syed.

Me too, Al.

On the one hand you have a guy that's put up 300K+ and possibly wants to get known, and expand operations.

On the other, we have a large Indian company that want to get known and expand operations.

We have another Indian that wants to own the Rovers and has some unknown reason for doing so.

Finally, we have some flotsam and jetsam floating around in the aftermath of the takeover saga.

On dry land, we have a trust that seem to want rid, but seemingly are undecided as to whose 30 pieces of silver they should accept.

The only certainty in all of this is; that no one is going to make any money out of it.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

Your new owners

Seriously? This is it?! What happened to the multi billionaire?

When does the sale begin?

You have Kilby the raffle ticket printer and Flood the potless.

We might end up being taken over by a company that supplies 80% of 1.2 billion people's staple foods.

You aren't the brightest.

I like how you occasionally drop in to confirm how much you are crapping yourself.

[Doaksie]

I've not read this thread much. It's too much like being a passenger on an aeroplane that is running out of fuel and going to crash. We can react and shout and scream all we want but we cannot influence a thing and the only people that can do anything are locked in the cockpit.

However just about everybody who has been linked with us have proven to be all fur coat and no knickers. We've had some mighty near misses. It's clearly a case of beggars not being choosers at the moment and although one should never judge a book by it's cover recent LT pictures of the current suitors do rather cause me to raise my guard. Open necked shirts, long lank hair and large vulgar medallions and bollywood playboy reputations do not suit the corporate and professional image that I would favour to see in our boardroom.

As I say though Philip beggars cannot be choosers The corporate professional types would rather stick pins in their eyes than own a poor club in the Prem. Truth is that everybody coveting us will have a profit driven motive and that is for certain sure, I very much doubt that there is a perfect fit out there.

Pretty spot on analysis, particularly the first paragraph.

[Jackson]

However, I do know the £1bn is real and the £300m for Rovers is real- I even know the name of the bank account it is in.

Dear Philip,

That's an very important point. In fact, I'd better check it out.

Just give me the account no. and sort code, and I'll do my best to verify it.

Yours,

Jackson

[47er]

Kamy situation ? Feel free to fill me in privately on what the Kamy situation is or was and how it differs from Philip.

Well i'm not sure why I'd need to fill you in because you would have read what I did and know more.Wasn't Kamy receiving actual threats from people and didn't he go to the police? Does that differ enough?

I could go back and read Kamy's statement on here to refresh my memory but so could you so really "what are you on about?"

[Glenn]

Well i'm not sure why I'd need to fill you in because you would have read what I did and know more.Wasn't Kamy receiving actual threats from people and didn't he go to the police? Does that differ enough?

I could go back and read Kamy's statement on here to refresh my memory but so could you so really "what are you on about?"

Ah, we've intentionally given no detail as to what went on with Kamy (or Philip) and in fact, I myself an not in possession of all the facts, but my initial reading of your post lead me to believe you knew something more about it than had been disclosed publicly.

[sjsbrfc]

Dear Philip,

That's an very important point. In fact, I'd better check it out.

Just give me the account no. and sort code, and I'll do my best to verify it.

Yours,

Jackson

LOL!

[booth]

Your new owners

Seriously? This is it?! What happened to the multi billionaire?

When does the sale begin?

Haha, it must be day release.

You do know that your saviour Kilby is soon to be gone. He's the only person keeping that club going.

Where did all your supposed money go Sam?

[waggy]

the more i think about this takeover,the more i reckon rovers are being shafted by the 'walker trust'.we are selling the club for literally chicken feed,i'd rather rovers stayed as they were than have foriegn investors,plus i would like to know what will happen to the trust fund JACK WALKER set up for the rovers

[blue/white]

Blue and white !

Perhaps you could have utilised better phrasing than 'those indians' or however it was worded, but I chose to see your previous comments NOT as xenophobic but as 'being sold down the river to some snake oil salesmen'-phobic for lack of a better term.