[Archived] Rovers Takeover: End game ?

[BuckyRover]

With Whelan's recent comments and the wider commentary on here about the Trust and firewalls etc (great imagery by the way) and the irreversible changes in the game I think it becomes more and more imperative that we hang on to the one constant reference point we have ie John Williams. It is vital that all the existing staff are not just swept aside and that someone remains who remembers what the club is all about and what it stands for.

It would be nice to tell VH/Kentaro, the world and his dog that we insist on JW staying so a big chorus of 'John Williams, there's only one John Williams' would go down well against Wigan.

BBE/DE singers, any chance?

Just imagine what Sam would feel like if that happened. Singing to keep the chief exec rather than the manager!

[Roost]

[Steve Moss]

Does that mean that Adrian Goldberg is owed a few apologies by many on here? I think it does...... but I doubt he'll receive any.

No. Goldberg's entire attitude was disgusting, He was delighting in the Rovers troubles.

Incidentally I have little sympathy for the Walker (or the Whelan) beneficiaries. It was Jack's money. He earned it not them. They had it handed to them on a plate. The least they could do was to look after the club that he loved whether or not they shared his enthusiasm.

Let's approve a 100% estate tax!

Jack wanted his kids to have his estate (and if he's like me, one of the reasons I work hard is for my kids). If he wanted them to invest in the Rovers he could have easily required it. He didn't. So I doubt he's rolling over in his grave.

Syed's pulled out of the running. He says it's due to BRFC's lack of co-operation.

Shah is annoyed because according to him he told Venky's about BRFC. He's considering legal action.

Without a NDA, I doubt he has much of a claim.

[nicko]

It's a valid point about the wealth of countries like India. I could never understand why Man U and Chelsea always aimed at the Asian market either. The point must be volume of potential customers, but it's way above my head.

In this case I think owning a Premier League club is obviously seen as a status symbol. Why else would three Indians suddenly be fighting each other over the same team?

That should be a good sign as the Rao family will surely want this to work out or they will look a bit stupid back home.

Sometimes - if you have a few quid - you want something to show for it and a Premier League club is quite a 'toy' to have.

Look at the publicity VH, Syed and Shah have had...and they have not even put a penny into the coffers yet.

There is also the World Cup aspect. India want to have the competition down the line, so any 'family' seen as the football pioneers would be well-placed to be big news.

[67splitscreen]

Did you find that down the chippy?.

[Spansterkid]

Dave Whelan was making the point [sadly cut out] that the Walker family were wanting to sell because the club was a financial burden.

When you think of it that way - Jack's relatives are beneficiaries of the mystical Trust after all - then you can see the point.

Nobody asked to be left in charge of Rovers...they were just handed it.

So Whelan is trying to go down the same road and sell to stop his family being left with that similar state of affairs.

I am sure he is a difficult man to work for - but as a football man he is top class. Nobody else has done what he has done. A player and a chairman/owner in all FOUR divisions.

Sometimes you have to be a tough old boot to get it right.

The story printed in the Mirror was pretty pointless. He's been telling anyone who'll listen that he's ready to sell for the best part of two years.

The stuff that wasn't printed is slightly more interesting....

[booth]

The stuff that wasn't printed is slightly more interesting....

Another tease! What was printed??? If you can't post it please pm me

[Spansterkid]

Another tease! What was printed??? If you can't post it please pm me

Isn't that in Nicko's post, quoted above?

[booth]

Isn't that in Nicko's post, quoted above?

Thought you were suggesting there was more.

Not sure if that's really that interesting, or rather it's not news to a lot of us. Unfortunately Jack's family aren't as big on football as Jack was. I once heard his daughter is mad keen though, it's a shame he didn't leave it to her if that's true.

[nicko]

The story printed in the Mirror was pretty pointless. He's been telling anyone who'll listen that he's ready to sell for the best part of two years.

You would, of course, be an expert on the subject.

Funny that people who work at Wigan had never heard him go that strong before.

[Spansterkid]

"I have to sell Wigan Athletic sooner or later," he says. "None of us can last forever so I’ve got to move the club on. But I don’t want any money back. If I could get someone to put £100m into it, I would give it to them.

Dave - ready to sell 2009

Sounds pretty much like a man ready to sell to me!

[booth]

Dave - ready to sell 2009

Sounds pretty much like a man ready to sell to me!

Complete with a guide to how to keep your hands warm in a crisis, might need that one day

[67splitscreen]

Venky's poll for anyone that's interested. My link

[Al]

Jack wanted his kids to have his estate (and if he's like me, one of the reasons I work hard is for my kids). If he wanted them to invest in the Rovers he could have easily required it. He didn't. So I doubt he's rolling over in his grave.

He left them Rovers as part of his estate and I'm sure he wanted them to treat his great love with respect and to continue his wishes. If it was my kids I would be furious with them.

[BuckyRover]

He left them Rovers as part of his estate and I'm sure he wanted them to treat his great love with respect and to continue his wishes. If it was my kids I would be furious with them.

I assume he loved his kids more than Rovers, thus expecting them to carry on his legacy at the expense of their own is very selfish.

I don't believe that you really believe that Al

[BPF]

[broadsword]

Has to be all about sponsorship money....If Blackburn get popular in India & 60m+ people are watching it...what better place to advertise your brand in India?

This is where I tend to switch off.

We're a football club, not a washing powder.

I know times change, but I doubt teams were founded to make it big in Asia. It was normally working men representing their town. You can't fight "progress" I guess. Football is like a massive warped ponzi scheme it needs ever more people putting in the pot to pay off the players who get more money than is feasible because if they didn't another club would do it. When does football become unsustainable, when every single man, woman, child and chicken on the planet is paying into the premiership?

Where will it all end (other than in tears)? I feel we're in danger of losing part of what made football great for the working man to go and watch. Football giving in to the trend of globalisation means it's in danger of losing its soul.

Profoundly depressing.

[Al]

I assume he loved his kids more than Rovers, thus expecting them to carry on his legacy at the expense of their own is very selfish.

I don't believe that you really believe that Al

The point is it was his money not theirs. All they have done to receive these riches is to be born.

When one receives a legacy, apart from the goodies, there are often responsibilities that go with them. One should not take all the cash and ignore the responsibilities.

If part of the legacy is a stately home it is also part of the legacy to keep it in good repair for the good of your family and the good of the public. Similarly if part of that legacy is the hopes and aspirations of the local community it is your resposibility to keep them in good repair too. Jack always did and if his children wanted to take his money they should have taken on the responsibilities as well. Rovers is more than just a bit of family silver.

[Steve Moss]

The point is it was his money not theirs. All they have done to receive these riches is to be born.

. . . Jack always did and if his children wanted to take his money they should have taken on the responsibilities as well. Rovers is more than just a bit of family silver.

Jack was a very astute man, by all accounts. If he wanted to lock down his estate with the requirement that it financially support the Rovers, come heck or high water, he knew how to do that. Presumably he did not which is why the sale is proceeding a decade after his death. Jack left his estate to his kids, not to the Rovers. His kids want rid of the Rovers. That is now their decision, not Jack's. And as Jack left them with the power to make that decision we should honor it also.

And I'm really struggling with this concept that Jack's heirs are somehow less deserving as they inherited their wealth.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

So reports are that the other bidders could be taking legal action?...against who exactly

How very seedy this is all becoming.

Once of a day being the heir to a football club would have been a dream come true. Now it's just an albatross with a millstone round it's neck.

Sad.

That sounds awful Jisty but that is probably how the Walker family see Rovers now...very sad indeed.

[Roversider]

roversider MOST i wouldnt have thought would have a spare fiver??

Do you know how many millionaires there are in India? I guess you aren't aware of the spread of wealth in India.

[ABBEY]

Do you know how many millionaires there are in India? I guess you aren't aware of the spread of wealth in India.

no problem then I stand corrected ,i didnt see poverty ,tents on roundabouts or see beggers then...cool must have some bad ###### then.

[Mattyblue]

no problem then I stand corrected ,i didnt see poverty ,tents on roundabouts or see beggers then...cool must have some bad ###### then.

China, Brazil etc you would see very much the same, emerging nations where the middle classes are rapidly growing and have a lot of disposable income, while those at the bottom live in absolute poverty.

[Balwer]

Do you know how many millionaires there are in India? I guess you aren't aware of the spread of wealth in India.

Yes, there's a tiny minority of very rich people and a vast majority of people living in poverty. The legacy of a colonial caste system brought in to a third world country. 85% per cent of Indians lived on less than $2.50 a day in 2007.

[BuckyRover]

India now has more rich than poor

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/indicators/India-has-more-rich-people-than-poor-now/articleshow/6242437.cms

Times are changing