[Archived] The Ashes 2010 / 2011

[dave birch]

I still insist that England’s attack is superior to Australia,

Bowling or batting?

Both are equally important.

[Bazzanotsogreat]

Bowling or batting?

Both are equally important.

I have never heard batting line-up refered to as an attack?

[deryck guyler's spoon]

Went to bed after the first 10 ten overs as it was obvious the cricketing gods favour the Aussies for this test- talk about luck!. I still insist that England’s attack is superior to Australia, it just that they had lots of luck whilst bowling and we have had none.

Yes Haddin/Hussey batted well, but if you have three of four lives each you would expect international class batsmen to make a big score.

More depressed about this match than the last Brisbane test- when England were rank bad.

When Finn and Anderson in particular were constantly going past the outside edge Hussey and Hadin didn't let it bother them, hunkered down and battled on. When the Aussies bowled well Siddle got a hatrick. There's the rub, England rarely lose wickets in isolation and we are more than used to middle order collapses.

Unless this England side grow some cojones they're going home sans Ashes.

[dave birch]

I have never heard batting line-up refered to as an attack?

Then that's why the Aussies approach to the game is a little different.

They "attack" the bowling.

When the opposition is batting, the bowlers do the "attacking".

Simple approach to the game really.

You might have to get used to this approach with Greg Chappell as a selector. He's the one (as mentioned by pg earlier) who blooded players like Steve Waugh, and led to the development of batsmen like Taylor and Slater, and then Hayden and Langer. Hard nosed batsmen who would "attack" the bowling.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Jimmy and Broad bowled really well at times, especially in that first hour. Hussey and Haddin may have had a bit of luck but that shouldn't detract from a very decent batting performance from them. Incorrect decisions from umpires, balls that drop short, dropped catches are all part of the game.

Best England can now hope for is a draw.

[dave birch]

Jimmy and Broad bowled really well at times, especially in that first hour. Hussey and Haddin may have had a bit of luck but that shouldn't detract from a very decent batting performance from them. Incorrect decisions from umpires, balls that drop short, dropped catches are all part of the game.

Best England can now hope for is a draw.

Not wrong there, RVR, that morning session was a lesson in how to bowl. Absolutely no luck at all, but Haddin and Hussey ground their way out of it. Two great innings there.

Swann may have come up against his brick wall in Aussie pitches though.

What's this about Broad going off with blisters brought about by new boots? Didn't someone tell him to work them in before the game! Very unprofessional.

[Bazzanotsogreat]

Then that's why the Aussies approach to the game is a little different.

They "attack" the bowling.

When the opposition is batting, the bowlers do the "attacking".

Simple approach to the game really.

You might have to get used to this approach with Greg Chappell as a selector. He's the one (as mentioned by pg earlier) who blooded players like Steve Waugh, and led to the development of batsmen like Taylor and Slater, and then Hayden and Langer. Hard nosed batsmen who would "attack" the bowling.

Thanks for the explanation! I am new to this game- what’s it called again hockey.

Within the cricketing world whether in Australia, India or England an attack refers to a bowling attack. You can attack or defend as a batsmen however an attack in cricket is a synonym.

[dave birch]

Thanks for the explanation! I am new to this game- what’s it called again hockey.

Within the cricketing world whether in Australia, India or England an attack refers to a bowling attack. You can attack or defend as a batsmen however an attack in cricket is a synonym.

That's your approach, well done. Keep at it then.

[cn_barlow]

There has been some great test cricket these last few days.

This is where england need the openers to stand up...if they can get a big partnership then they can set a good platform for posting a good total. A few of them have a point to prove after that dreadful first innings - it reminded me of the 'old' england!

One things for sure, if we somehow manage to avoid losing this one it will be a massive result and set us up well to keep the urn.

[sleepyjack]

@TheAshes

[American Rover12]

Strauss completes his first century in Australia.

[Exiled_Rover]

Get in. Two fantastic sessions for England. We've gone a long way towards saving this test.

[jim mk2]

Barring a collapse tomorrow morning a match England could easily have lost ought to be safe. Even better would be if England could push on tomorrow and get the enemy in for 30 overs at the end of the day and surround the bat with Swann bowling and the fielders giving their batsman some verbal grief.

Well played to Strauss and Cook for 2 fantastic knocks though Strauss unforgivably gave his wicket away when a double hundred was there for the taking. Very unprofessional.

However, presuming it''s a draw England man-of-the match is definitely their player with the comedy Freddie Mercury moustache - 0 wickets, 0 runs, 0 catches. Who is he ?

[cn_barlow]

Brilliant day for England. Real psychological blow for the home side after being in such a dominant position.

All 3 results possible now. Bat positively tomorrow then get the Aussies in for an uncomfortable 40 overs or so.

[SouthAussieRover]

[quote name='jim mk2' date='28 November 2010 - 18:00 PM' timestamp='1290929426' post='98072

However, presuming it''s a draw England man-of-the match is definitely their player with the comedy Freddie Mercury moustache - 0 wickets, 0 runs, 0 catches. Who is he ?

Broad?

[Ozz]

He is referring to Mitchell Johnson.

[BuckyRover]

Did anybody hear Gower scream like a girl when Nasser put his chair on his foot? It was comedy gold. It's on YouTube if you want to hear it.

[Flopsy]

Barring a collapse tomorrow morning a match England could easily have lost ought to be safe.

We're so screwed

[ABBEY]

Did anybody hear Gower scream like a girl when Nasser put his chair on his foot? It was comedy gold. It's on YouTube if you want to hear it.

hahaha i saw that, the mrs made me rewind it .

[cn174]

The ground is a bit empty!

[neekoy]

No one wants to pay money to see a final day draw, see how the crowd goes after lunch, all the sickies on Friday have probably kept people away from pulling one on Monday as well.

[dave birch]

The best thing I heard about this test was of a couple of guys had a multiple bet of $100 on:

NZ to win the four nation League final.

St George to win the NRL Grand Final by more that 13 points

Collingwood to win the AFL Grand Final

and this test to be a draw.

They won just over $11000.00

[neekoy]

That was great work by England, I would have liked to see England go for it with a 200 lead but they don't have to win anything. Hopefully we will see North, Doherty and Johnson dropped and Bollinger, D Hussey and George/O'Keefe as the spinner.

Doherty never gave the ball enough flight and North and Johnson were again horrible. Australia AGAIN lacked that killer blow when they had the opposition down for the count.

Adelaide looks like an extremely good batting track so I see another draw and real pressure for the Aussies.

[dave birch]

Neekoy, can't disagree with your changes, apart from omitting Clark on your get rid list. Ever since he gave Lara the flick he's been next to useless.

Any way, the pitch I'm sure was dug up from the street outside, had a bit of water on it for the first day and a half, and then it reverted to being a road.

[jim mk2]

Congratulations to Cook on his record-breaking score and proving he is now officially better than Bradman.

Pity England could not have knocked over 5 or 6 to keep up the psychological pressure but after the first-innings debacle a draw was a good result and forcing a win was never likely on that pitch. Also a pity that Strauss gave his wicket away because a score of 500 plus without loss would have been even more impressive and possibly unprecedented in Test cricket.

No need to change the England team for the next Test. If this team plays to its full capabilities and the batsmen do not give their wickets away (Strauss and Pietersen please note) England ought to win the series.