JAL Posted November 5, 2010 Posted November 5, 2010 Come on guys and gals this is just one of many thats going to happen, dont think you'lll not be affected. Will you let the City and the incompetent parliamentarians get away with it. Are you prepared to sacrifice your pension...... for the overpaid, incompetent, City w@nkers, Bankers and Parliamentarians and their advisors.
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thenodrog Posted November 5, 2010 Posted November 5, 2010 Come on guys and gals this is just one of many thats going to happen, dont think you'lll not be affected. Will you let the City and the incompetent parliamentarians get away with it. Are you prepared to sacrifice your pension...... for the overpaid, incompetent, City w@nkers, Bankers and Parliamentarians and their advisors. Who cares? And what is the alternative JAL? Have you forgotten the mind boggling scale of this man's crime against the entire nation ...... http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/pensions/article.html?in_article_id=413695&in_page_id=6 "Gordon Brown saw pension funds as an easy target - so he raided them. 'He either doesn't understand private pensions or he doesn't care about them, which is hardly prudent."
Mattyblue Posted November 5, 2010 Posted November 5, 2010 The BBC has been living in a gold plated bubble far too long, my heart bleeds for them.
thenodrog Posted November 5, 2010 Posted November 5, 2010 The BBC has been living in a gold played bubble far too long, my heart bleeds for them. Totally agree.
wilyrover Posted November 5, 2010 Posted November 5, 2010 Fantastic to see workers fighting back. Capitalism in crisis once again.
JAL Posted November 5, 2010 Author Posted November 5, 2010 Who cares? And what is the alternative JAL? Have you forgotten the mind boggling scale of this man's crime against the entire nation ...... http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/pensions/article.html?in_article_id=413695&in_page_id=6 "Gordon Brown saw pension funds as an easy target - so he raided them. 'He either doesn't understand private pensions or he doesn't care about them, which is hardly prudent." Thats why the word parliamentarian is used in that, they across the parties are in it together despite what ever difference we or JiM mK2 may think. Gordon was acting for soemone else when he raided the pension funds, it was calculated, he was advised by those who were in control of the pensions. Its very clear that he wasnt acting for the electorate, the ordinary working man, come labour voter ... was he Thenodrog Gordon and his advisors were put up to it and he delivered for them no wonder he was so pleased for himself when it all came to an end now we find another scenario developing.
koi Posted November 5, 2010 Posted November 5, 2010 Fantastic to see workers fighting back. Capitalism in crisis once again. Except you just get your news supplied by ITN or Sky News.
adopted scouser Posted November 5, 2010 Posted November 5, 2010 Swines, was looking forward to Mayo and Kermode this afternoon. Pointed the Vauxhall at Wallasey and flicked the radio on, bloody recording ! then another recording of 'fighting talk'.
roversmum Posted November 5, 2010 Posted November 5, 2010 Fantastic to see workers fighting back. Capitalism in crisis once again. Just remind me again, who pays for the BBC?
JAL Posted November 5, 2010 Author Posted November 5, 2010 Capitalism in crisis once again. Capitalism looks fine to me.....by making the workers accept less for their pensions, make them work longer, make them work for less money, and just watch those big juicy profits roll in seems a good plan for the capitalists.
jim mk2 Posted November 6, 2010 Posted November 6, 2010 British Airways workers, London tube workers, firefighters and now BBC staff. Good to see organised labour making a comeback and standing firm against the employers and their henchmen in the ConDem govt.
Mattyblue Posted November 6, 2010 Posted November 6, 2010 Wasn't BA mainly a Labour strike? Wasn't Mandelson involved? You are not airbrushing history to fit your one eyed agenda again are you jim?
modes98 Posted November 6, 2010 Posted November 6, 2010 The BBC has been living in a gold plated bubble far too long, my heart bleeds for them. I'm very happy with the quality of TV and Radio programmes the BBC provides me with. I certainly have no problem with them paying high wages in order to secure top talent.
adopted scouser Posted November 6, 2010 Posted November 6, 2010 I'm very happy with the quality of TV and Radio programmes the BBC provides me with. I certainly have no problem with them paying high wages in order to secure top talent. Agreed, Attenborough was ace on BBC2 last night. A real gulf between quality and 'animals do the funniest things'
Mattyblue Posted November 6, 2010 Posted November 6, 2010 I'm very happy with the quality of TV and Radio programmes the BBC provides me with. I certainly have no problem with them paying high wages in order to secure top talent. Neither have I- however the BBC is a vast organisation. The managment for example earn crazy wages and perks that just do not exist in the commercial sectior. Is it around 300 members of staff on more than 100 grand a year? It is time that the taxpayers (because that is what the TV Liecence is) started getting value for money.
Paul Posted November 7, 2010 Posted November 7, 2010 Neither have I- however the BBC is a vast organisation. The managment for example earn crazy wages and perks that just do not exist in the commercial sectior. Is it around 300 members of staff on more than 100 grand a year? Like you I think the BC provides great quality but I'm not sure you're accurate on the crazy wages. Certainly there are some very high profile performers who are paid vast amounts - Jonathan Ross for example, I realise this is the example everyone picks up on - but I think you'll find the Beeb pays at the top of the scale to be competitive. It is time that the taxpayers (because that is what the TV Liecence is) started getting value for money. Is it tax payers money? In the sense the majority who pay tax also pay for a TV licence, yes but surely the money really comes only from those who want to have a TV and therefore purchase the required licence. I'm not sure about this, but don't think the government provides any funding out of tax revenues.
Mattyblue Posted November 7, 2010 Posted November 7, 2010 Like you I think the BC provides great quality but I'm not sure you're accurate on the crazy wages. Certainly there are some very high profile performers who are paid vast amounts - Jonathan Ross for example, I realise this is the example everyone picks up on - but I think you'll find the Beeb pays at the top of the scale to be competitive. Is it tax payers money? In the sense the majority who pay tax also pay for a TV licence, yes but surely the money really comes only from those who want to have a TV and therefore purchase the required licence. I'm not sure about this, but don't think the government provides any funding out of tax revenues. No it is not a tax, it was my mealy mouthed way of saying that if you want a TV, you need a licence, therefore the Beeb have a ring fenced income from the public each year and seemingly does not feel the need to get value for money. If top stars need to pay the going rate etc, big events need covering - no problem. It is what I said about the non celebrity, non journalist management- from the BBCs own webiste- '331 BBC managers earn more than £100,000'. That is ridiculous!
thenodrog Posted November 7, 2010 Posted November 7, 2010 I'm very happy with the quality of TV and Radio programmes the BBC provides me with. I certainly have no problem with them paying high wages in order to secure top talent. Other side of the coin modes..... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319993/BBCs-marketing-chief-Sharon-Baylay-redundant-325-000-pay-off.html 17 months into her job.... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/6599947/BBC-salaries-cannot-be-decided-by-public-opinion-says-BBC-boss.html “However, we can't have a remuneration strategy driven by public opinion." Lucy Adam Not even when the public are paying? “However, with bonuses and other entitlements, the average renumeration package of the BBC's top 100 executives is more than £214,000 a year, which exceeds the Prime Minister’s £194,250 salary. The corporation's senior staff also claimed £175,000 in expenses in just the first three months of the financial year. “
accyrover Posted November 7, 2010 Posted November 7, 2010 Just wait till the Tory / Lap Dog coalition start on Public Sector pensions next year. The the sh*t really will hit the fan. Prepare for a winter of discontent. Accyrover
adopted scouser Posted November 7, 2010 Posted November 7, 2010 just a question, why do you end your posts with 'accyrover' when we can see your name at the top ? adopted scouser
thenodrog Posted November 7, 2010 Posted November 7, 2010 Just wait till the Tory / Lap Dog coalition start on Public Sector pensions next year. The the sh*t really will hit the fan. Prepare for a winter of discontent. Accyrover Oh I dunno myself and lots of others on here will be quite content! thenodrog
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