[Archived] Nzonzi

[Darwen Rover]

Is he injured... Really don't understand how he's gone from young player of the year to not able to get in the squad??

[Hughesy]

Injured

[frosty]

He came off injured at Liverpool but I agree, there has been very little mention of it! Same with Olsson. I'd like to see both back in the team fairly soon.

[Amo]

Sam picked Grella ahead of Nzonzi at the start of the season. When Nzonzi inevitably took over, his performances looked a shade off from last year. And now he's injured.

[Tim Southampton Rover]

I heard he got too big for his boots after him winning the player of the year last season which is why Big Sam dropped him this season and obviously if he's injured then it's going to take a lot of catching up to get back to his form from last season.

This might be a bit controversial but I really don't see anything special about N'Zonzi. I know he is a good player and he also had a good season, especially after being plucked from the second tier in France, but what makes him stand out (apart from the fact he's blummin' tall)?

I don't think he's an excellent passer or tackler, he's got great height and is dangerous at set pieces but apart from that I really don't think he's as good as some people make out and I worry that his opening season will be the best we'll see from him. Is it just a case that he's got the attributes to become a great player? It will be interesting to see how he develops in the next 2 to 3 years. I hope it's just a case of me not seeing him enough in the flesh.

What does everyone else think of him, especially those who watch Rovers week in week out and can see what he does when the TV cameras aren't on him?

[Darwen Rover]

Personally think he was very good at times last season.. And for his age and background.. Thought he was an excellent purchase and definitely one for the future.. For me the mgt team have to get him back up to speed

[LeChuck]

  On 16/11/2010 at 10:31, Topman said:

Sam picked Grella ahead of Nzonzi at the start of the season. When Nzonzi inevitably took over, his performances looked a shade off from last year. And now he's injured.

Olsson is going to really struggle, there are a lot of players ahead of him now - two Dioufs, Hoilett, Emerton. His best chance of a game is at left back.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

  On 16/11/2010 at 18:42, LeChuck said:

Olsson is going to really struggle, there are a lot of players ahead of him now - two Dioufs, Hoilett, Emerton. His best chance of a game is at left back.

Personally I wouldn't be too disappointed to see him there. He isn't the best defender in the world - but the pace he gives us - both at the back and further forward gives the whole team a different dimension imo.

[67splitscreen]

In Sam's Newcastle formation, Olsson would work as the left wing back, far better than Chimbonda/Givet in the same position.

Hate leaving Salgado out but ... and if Goulon can co the business as he has for the ressies.

----------------Robbo

------Samba-Nelsen-Jones

Emerton-------------------Olsson

----------N'Zonzi--Goulon

-------- E Diouf----Dunn

--------- Take your pick

Edit maybe that's a bit better.

----------------Robbo

------Samba-Nelsen-Jones

Emerton-N'Zonzi-Goulon- Olsson

---------E Diouf----Dunn

--------- Take your pick

[LeChuck]

  On 16/11/2010 at 19:35, 67splitscreen said:

In Sam's Newcastle formation, Olsson would work as the left wing back, far better than Chimbonda/Givet in the same position.

Bit harsh to say 'far better' than Chimbonda, he was one of our best players against Newcastle. If Olsson could do exactly the same running as Chimbonda but couple it with actually having a left foot, then I'd totally agree. I think Hoilett would need to switch sides though, I think they're too raw to link together.

................... Robinson

..... Samba .. Nelsen .. Jones

Salgado ........ Goulon ...... Olsson

..... Hoilett .... Dunn .... Diouf

................... Kalinic

Something like that? I wanted to squeeze Pedersen in but I couldn't manage it. Also, I have no idea how to lay that formation out on paper.

[67splitscreen]

  On 16/11/2010 at 19:39, LeChuck said:

Bit harsh to say 'far better' than Chimbonda, he was one of our best players against Newcastle. If Olsson could do exactly the same running as Chimbonda but couple it with actually having a left foot, then I'd totally agree. I think Hoilett would need to switch sides though, I think they're too raw to link together.

................... Robinson

..... Samba .. Nelsen .. Jones

Salgado ........ Goulon ...... Olsson

..... Hoilett .... Dunn .... Diouf

................... Kalinic

Something like that? I wanted to squeeze Pedersen in but I couldn't manage it. Also, I have no idea how to lay that formation out on paper.

I though you said in the past you need two DM to cover the WB's when they go forward, maybe it was someone else.

It does look quite secure at the back in any case and as we witnessed in the last two games we certainly get more men forward on the attack.

[LeChuck]

  On 16/11/2010 at 19:52, 67splitscreen said:

I though you said in the past you need two DM to cover the WB's when they go forward, maybe it was someone else.

Hah, yeah I did say that, but I was on about flat back fours. The three centre backs means that's not an issue.

[joey_big_nose]

Nzonzi just strikes me as an average player to be honest. Young and has potential but has so far failed to look as if he is contriubuting more that much maligned players like Grella. I was pretty mystified by him winning the player of the season. Robinson was a better pick, or Samba. He was not bad for us, but really have we missed him? If so what have we missed about him? I can't think about anything really.

As for formations I can't see why currently Nzonzi would get in the team. Jones looks much much better than him, Goulon waiting to get some minutes. However I certainly can see why Olsson would as we desperately need him overlapping in the new 541. Side I would go for:-

----------------------Roberts

--EH Diouf---Jones-----Dunn--Hoilett

Olsson-------------------------------------Emerton

---------Givet-----Nelsen----Samba

--------------------Robinson

That is actually a not bad side with good width and ability to cause defences problems.

[bazza]

Nzonzi......hamstring..........no return date.

Check this and add it to your bookmarks.

http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php

[John]

From our current squad I would pick Grella but the problem is he is never fit – when he has been available for selection, which is a rarity as we know, Sam has picked Grella in his first choice midfield.

Nzonzi is over rated by many IMO – he had a promising first season and can be effective from set pieces which is obviously useful due to the way we play – however views over some players can be clouded due to the complete lack of quality we currently have in the midfield area.

[Plastic Head]

This is the worst hamstring injury I can remember.

What is going on with N'Zonzi? Is he really injured? Has he got a different injury? Has anyone seen him around?

What can it all mean?

[Majiball]

  On 03/01/2011 at 21:09, Plastic Head said:

This is the worst hamstring injury I can remember.

What is going on with N'Zonzi? Is he really injured? Has he got a different injury? Has anyone seen him around?

What can it all mean?

Maybe Dunny had him for lunch?

[bazza]

According to physioroom we only have three injured at the moment, Robinson, Roberts and Jones.

So Grella, Nzonzi, Samba, Andrews and Hanley are fighting fit and raring to go.

[Shabani]

never use 'Grella' and 'fighting fit' in the same sentence

[beerwins]

  On 03/01/2011 at 22:24, Shabani said:

never use 'Grella' and 'fighting fit' in the same sentence

Was actually supposed to return for Liverpool game, but guess what...........

[Hughesy]

Yes Gorilla 'broke down' AGAIN!!

NZonzi had a back injury originally didnt he?

[92er]

  On 03/01/2011 at 23:18, beerwins said:

Was actually supposed to return for Liverpool game, but guess what...........

It suggested in the LT today he would miss a few more games.

[thenodrog]

I've been convinced for some time now that there is more to N'Zonzi's absence than meets the eye. Something doesn't add up.

[HemelRover]

  On 04/01/2011 at 03:15, thenodrog said:

I've been convinced for some time now that there is more to N'Zonzi's absence than meets the eye. Something doesn't add up.

For me too. The last time i can remember a long "abscence" like this was Rosicky's "Back & Thigh" or Henry's "neck" injury at Arsenal.

A very vague, dubious "injury" for a good 6 to 8 months or so.

[dazmaz]

  On 03/01/2011 at 21:31, bazza said:

According to physioroom we only have three injured at the moment, Robinson, Roberts and Jones.

So Grella, Nzonzi, Samba, Andrews and Hanley are fighting fit and raring to go.

grella, nzonzi and andrews back on the list.

grella - groin strain - exp back 15th jan

nzonzi - groin strain - exp back 15th jan

andrews - groin strain - exp back 15th jan

anyone else think all 3 having the exact same injury and return date too much of a coincidence?