[Archived] New Rovers Boss

[beerwins]

Well at least he got the lads fired up and we got a good result and performance on saturday..................oh wait.

I suppose we can just trust the owners to make another great decision..................oh wait.

Who do you bring in to steady the ship? a tried and tested prem manager or a coach with no managerial skills at all

I am sure he will have the job and I wish him all the best but it does'nt send out the right message to the fans about the owners intentions, it says to me that this appointment is about January transfers and nothing more.

[Craigman]

We are going to have to get behind him when he is appointed. It is no good for the club to be on his back from day one. We all need to pull together now.

[benhben]

Look on the bright side, at least we wont be appointing Benitez who has just been sacked. Wonder if Sam will apply for that! lol

[tony gale's mic]

Like?? A journey man go no where manager like Newcastle have just appointed. He is experienced. At the moment abit of stability is arguably more important than leaving the squad in limbo for months waiting for someone more suitable.

Agreed sacking Sam was the wrong decision, but stating the worst case scenario regarding every new piece of news doesnt help anything.

I'd much, MUCH sooner have Alan Pardew managing our side than Steve Kean.

At least Pardew has a few managerial accomplishments to his name, he did well with a budget at Reading and his first season at West Ham was very good too.

Kean's managerial achievements:

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[sambo]

So is Kean basically a yes man? Get the feeling he will have bugger all influence with signings, will all be Kentaro. So confused by what's going on, starting to just be completely disillusioned.

[tony gale's mic]

Look on the bright side, at least we wont be appointing Benitez who has just been sacked. Wonder if Sam will apply for that! lol

You're right, I am glad we're appointing a nobody as opposed to a man who's won La Liga twice, the UEFA Cup and the Champions' League.

[bubblerrovers]

How on earth can this be happening. This is so wrong, we're being screwed. I can get used to the idea of sacking Sam if there is a decent replacement, but to appoint a man with no experience is beyond a joke. It's so obvious what is happening behind the scenes, I hope the FA or premier league step in to stop kentaro and venky's destroying our club we all love.

[Sandiway Blue]

You're right, I am glad we're appointing a nobody as opposed to a man who's won La Liga twice, the UEFA Cup and the Champions' League.

And gone through an average of how many players a season at a huge cost?? I think he went through at least 5 right-backs alone in his time there.

A definite avoid for me.

[TOMSDINER]

Ince appointed an experienced Asst (Knox) and look where that left us. The British market is very thin at the moment (O'Neil unlikely, we'd have to look overseas and that is a big gamble. Moyes might be a good choice but unlikely to leave Everton. Kean is a big gamble, Mark Hughes wasn't as he had a great knowledge of the 'European' market and was a 'big name'.

Managers are judged on the players they sign, they leave the coaching to people like Kean. iF we judge Ince on the players he signed....Andrews, Grella and Fowler, could hardly fail with Robinson, then he was a maddive failure who rightly was sacked.

Wait till we are linked with a player who played for Coleman at Coventry/Fulham. I doubt if Kean can sign anyone of really top quality, but time will tell.

[67splitscreen]

Wonder if he give Sam's list to the Raos. That would be a kick in the nuts for Sam.

[frosty]

If Keans performance, decisions, tactics against WHU are a sign of things to come it is extremely concerning. He is going to have to show some courage, positivity and be prepared to take a risk to make things happen, as opposed to waiting for something to happen. He's got a once in a lifetime opportunity and froze in the headlights at his first attempt............he'll only get a few more opportunities so lets hope for all our sakes he ups his game against Stoke.

[XLM]

If Keans performance, decisions, tactics against WHU are a sign of things to come it is extremely concerning. He is going to have to show some courage, positivity and be prepared to take a risk to make things happen, as opposed to waiting for something to happen. He's got a once in a lifetime opportunity and froze in the headlights at his first attempt............he'll only get a few more opportunities so lets hope for all our sakes he ups his game against Stoke.

We play big boot football for 2 years and because our football doesn't look like Barcelona's after a week it's worrying? Things can't change that quickly.

And there wasn't that much that Kean could change during the game having to use all 3 of his substitutions on injuries.

[chaddyrovers]

is any chance of Rafa Benitez becoming rovers boss???

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

I don't know what Venky's and Kean have been drinking but I want some. Got a feeling that my local boozer won't have it in stock over Christmas though.

I think to be fair to Kean - he is hardly going to say that we have a rubbish squad and need to spend at least £60m to get us anywhere near top 6 - let alone top 4. Psychology is a wondeful thing - ever wondered how Holloway manages to get a team of fairly average players to play with such fluency and confidence at Blackpool ?

Not saying Kean is the new messiah - but he is the current Blackburn manager - whether we like it or not.

[frosty]

We play big boot football for 2 years and because our football doesn't look like Barcelona's after a week it's worrying? Things can't change that quickly.

And there wasn't that much that Kean could change during the game having to use all 3 of his substitutions on injuries.

There was a lot he could have done both before and during the game. Not put on Benjani for one, maybe move Givet to centre back when Jones had to go off to get the pace of Olsen on which we were crying out for. He could have also set the team up with some pace in the first place, and not benched Jones. Basically show some courage and seize the opportunity.

[Roberto Policano]

is any chance of Rafa Benitez becoming rovers boss???

Unlikely because of his wages.

[slough_rover]

There was a lot he could have done both before and during the game. Not put on Benjani for one, maybe move Givet to centre back when Jones had to go off to get the pace of Olsen on which we were crying out for. He could have also set the team up with some pace in the first place, and not benched Jones. Basically show some courage and seize the opportunity.

To be fair to him even Sam utilized Benjani ahead of Kalinic recently.

[Billy Castell]

I'd much, MUCH sooner have Alan Pardew managing our side than Steve Kean.

At least Pardew has a few managerial accomplishments to his name, he did well with a budget at Reading and his first season at West Ham was very good too.

Kean's managerial achievements:

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Boning several players' wives (allegedly), winning the Johnstone's Paint Trophy, and under-achieving at West Ham and Charlton are really something that any manager would be proud of. Pardew has done less than Micky Adams, Strachan or Warnock, three other lower league managers living off past glories. Maybe I've not learnt from Ince's reign of terror, but Kean may turn out to be good, but he has to get morale up quickly amongst the team. Pardew is one of those clapped out names that get employed by teams that are scared of failure, but not brave enough to succeed.

[Kelbo]

There was a lot he could have done both before and during the game. Not put on Benjani for one, maybe move Givet to centre back when Jones had to go off to get the pace of Olsen on which we were crying out for. He could have also set the team up with some pace in the first place, and not benched Jones. Basically show some courage and seize the opportunity.

Yes, this is my view and it was evident in the first half that there were problems with our pace at the back, that is a major problem, you cant give someone pace, Olssen has is and would have helped the situation as Salgado, Givet and Nelson arent the quickest, thats why I would play Jones at the back to give us bit more pace. The biggest mistake for me, evident after only a few minutes, was the vulnerability of the Hammers keeper, awful judgement in the air, flapped at everything, yet we never pressurised him, that should have been schoolboy coaching for Kean, deliver the ball get accross the keeper and a chance will come, we can be pretty and attacking when we have ammassed 40 points, but we had nothing, no heart, no pace, no quality or determination, that suggests the team were not set up right or not playing for the manager.

[47er]

Unlikely because of his wages.

And because Rafa spends an absolute fortune on dross and then demands more money when it doesn't work out.

[XLM]

There was a lot he could have done both before and during the game. Not put on Benjani for one, maybe move Givet to centre back when Jones had to go off to get the pace of Olsen on which we were crying out for. He could have also set the team up with some pace in the first place, and not benched Jones. Basically show some courage and seize the opportunity.

We weren't crying out for pace, we weren't really crying out for anything. We were winning. I would have put Olsson on for Jones too, but if we hadn't have conceded a scrappy, lucky goal no one would mention it. I would have started with Hoilett as well, but he would probably have come on after about 60 mins for Dunn to stretch the game had we not have had 3 injuries.

You can't judge someone so harshly after one game. Especially when we are going to change the way we play completely. And as I recall Benjani was above Kalinic in the pecking order under sam too, probably because his confidence has been bullied so low he can barely get up in the mornings.

It's going to take time; no one can pass a ball, and it hasn't helped that no one has been required to pass a ball for 2 years. We need a central midfielder who is a proper central midfielder, not a winger or a centre back. And no matter what anyone may say, that has been the priority since fat sam took over, he was just too occupied in complaining about not having Drogba for a striker to see that Roberts is about the best at playing in his system that we could possibly hope for.

[Steve Moss]

Surely the significance of bringing the 'manager' to their HQ is very obvious.

I don't know about you, but if I was going to go into a major job I would prefer to look at my employer in the eye, ask the right questions, answer the right questions...and then decide if I wanted it.

This isn't really something you do in a casual chat on a crackly line.

If I were Ms. Desai, I'd want to meet Kean so I can size him up as a potential leader. His CV is all well and good, but does he have the mental strength and personality to lead 25+ egotists plus support staff?

I suspect that the eye looking will be a two way street, or at least should be.

Rafa is awful at spending money so he's out.

How to spend a couple O'hundred million or so and win nothing.

Since when would Rafa have charge of any transfer budget if he came to the Rovers? And to the extent that he has input, wouldn't that be offset by Kentaro, Venkys and the other unnamed advisers.

When Coyley met Burnley and Bolton he talked football first...contracts sorted out later...didn't even use an agent with the Burnley deal.

So, yes, proper football people talk football first.

Which only makes me wish we had gone for Coyle.

His got all the badges, fluent in three languages, had worked as assistant in Spain and England, first team coach at Blackburn for 18 months, so until a new manager can be found he has got the job. Surely common sense as you don't want to rush into hiring someone. If he does well he gets the job, if not we get someone else.

He's obviously smart and talented. The issue is whether he can inspire the troops. Can he lead men? Or overgrown boys in men's bodies, as the case may be.

Bfs isnt doing so well..Bfs tries to convince Rao's that 5m isnt enough to get them a high table finish. He requests big name players eg, bentley, cruz, nzogbia and keane.

While we're speculating, I think Santa Cruz may have been the name Sam nominated which pushed Venkys over the edge. The rest make sense, but Santa Cruz?

SCOOTLAND.

I like Scotland. Spent 4 days there in March. Enjoyed it more than Manchester, though I thought Manchester was far superior to London.

Got say, if I was Venky's, I would be holding back on his pay-off until he explained those remarks in more detail...

How does that help Venkys? First, they owe Sam. They're the parties in violation of the contract when they dismissed him. They owe. No question. Second, they're the parties who started slatting Sam almost from day one. Nine out of ten signings are failure, etc. Having started the war of words, they can hardly complain if they take some return fire. Sauce for the goose and all of that. Third, asking Sam to explain himself risks that he'll do just that. Vocally and in detail, which will only churn the anti-Venkys press more. Not something that I imagine Venkys want, if it can be avoided.

[RoyRover]

So our new Indian owners, who admitted on buying our club that they know nothing about football, sack a manager (who's style admittedly wasn't to everyone's taste including my own) who had performed miracles in keeping us in the league and guiding us to a top 10 finish after having nothing to spend on players. They then replace him with a coach who has never managed a team before and just so happens to be represented by the same agency that have been advising our new owners on transfers. And do you think that there will be pressure placed upon the new manager, by the owners who are being advised by the same agency who represent him, to purchase the players on the books of the same agency? This is all so bent, corrupt and deceitful that it makes me feel sick.

[Kelbo]

So our new Indian owners, who admitted on buying our club that they know nothing about football, sack a manager (who's style admittedly wasn't to everyone's taste including my own) who had performed miracles in keeping us in the league and guiding us to a top 10 finish after having nothing to spend on players. They then replace him with a coach who has never managed a team before and just so happens to be represented by the same agency that have been advising our new owners on transfers. And do you think that there will be pressure placed upon the new manager, by the owners who are being advised by the same agency who represent him, to purchase the players on the books of the same agency? This is all so bent, corrupt and deceitful that it makes me feel sick.

Yes, those are my feelings too

[ross-shire rover]

Serious question. What does a first team coach do ?

Has he not been involved in tactics, setting up the team, preparing set pieces, working with Sam, maybe advising on team selection etc etc? So either he's just been saying "Yes Sam" and thinking just the opposite, or he's gone along quite happily with what was happening. So how can we expect him to suddenly start getting the team to play like Arsenal or Barcelona ?