[Archived] The Dawn Of A New Era

[mark1875]

all about us on radio lancs sport programme, worth listening too if anyone can be bothered

[gumboots]

  On 14/12/2010 at 18:18, Mr. E said:

If now is not the time to panic, then when in God's blue earth would it be? What else precisely are we waiting to happen? Paul Ince to be reappointed?

It's never the time to panic because panic achieves nothing. And anyway what precisely would we panic about? The owners have decided for whatever reason to dispense with the services of a manager they don't want and that is their right. They don't have to consult anyone because 50 odd million pounds gives them the right to make that decision. You may not like it. I may not like it, but our panicking about it makes not one jot of difference. And protests will only further harm the club and make it harder for the players. How will they feel if they run out in a stadium where the fans aren't there at the start to cheer for their club?

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

The Rovers fan and Andy Nield telling it how it is on Radio Lancs......we're all shyte scared of what's transpiring down Ewood way.

[mark1875]

LUDICROUS PLANS BY HALF-WIT SUPPORTERS

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pitch-invasion-at-the-west-ham-game/175368792483879?v=wall

pitch invasion to support big sam and john williams

pathetic idea

[BuckyRover]

Embarrassing

People need to sort their lives out.

Seriously. The sky has not fallen in.

[John]

Just been listening to Radio Lancs, Venky's are still making strange statements which once again illustrates they don't have a clue about football.

[mark1875]

  On 14/12/2010 at 19:08, John said:

Just been listening to Radio Lancs, Venky's are still making strange statements which illustrates they don't have a clue about football.

i listened and i couldn't agree more with you

[den]

Radio Lancs:

Venkatash Rao doesn't expect a new manager before Xmas and doesn't believe that having no manager will affect their ability to bring in new players.

Andy Neild and the other guy in the studio basically think Venky's don't know what they're doing. They don't think there's any plan here.

[Giant]

As a Rovers fan since 1960 and one who has seen it all at our club, I am very excited by the new ownership. We are in for an incredibly eventful time and I don't buy the rubbish about selling the club down the river etc. To me it makes for common sense that it is NOT in the interests of the new owners for the club to go belly up. Change is a necessary part of life and we cannot live in the past, or on past glories and memories. Keep the faith, I have for 50 years and believe that we are in for the next phase in the success of Blackburn Rovers.

[BuckyRover]

  On 14/12/2010 at 19:21, Giant said:

As a Rovers fan since 1960 and one who has seen it all at our club, I am very excited by the new ownership. We are in for an incredibly eventful time and I don't buy the rubbish about selling the club down the river etc. To me it makes for common sense that it is NOT in the interests of the new owners for the club to go belly up. Change is a necessary part of life and we cannot live in the past, or on past glories and memories. Keep the faith, I have for 50 years and believe that we are in for the next phase in the success of Blackburn Rovers.

Very good post.

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 14/12/2010 at 19:15, den said:

Radio Lancs:

Venkatash Rao doesn't expect a new manager before Xmas and doesn't believe that having no manager will affect their ability to bring in new players.

Andy Neild and the other guy in the studio basically think Venky's don't know what they're doing. They don't think there's any plan here.

OMG if Andy Neild thinks that we're obviously doomed!

Obviously the Trustees who would have gone into the matter in a lot more depth thought otherwise otherwise they wouldn't have sold to the Rao's.

[philipl]

I am getting confused again.

Desai confirmed that the team would make do with the interim manager till the season ends and the research team is closely looking out for the best available options. “We don’t want to rush on any decision. We are looking for long-term progress of the team and we will surely have a manager who will take the team to the next level,” she said.

She requested all the Blackburn fans across the world to show faith in Venkey’s and not to fear any kind of downfall of the team.

“There is no need for Blackburn fans to worry. The team is in safe hands and we have the best of experts working for us. Blackburn will be amongst the top teams and its just the matter of time,” Desai summed up.

That was going up on the Pune Mirror web site at the same time that Venkatesh was apparently talking to Radio Lancashire about two months to the recruitment of a new manager. It would be helpful to know who the research team and the experts are and whether they are reporting to the Board of Directors as would be normal in any corporate set-up.

Incidentally, I am not aware that Venky's have placed anybody on the Rovers Board yet but I would imagine the role of the two brothers in the dismissal of Sam makes them shadow directors of Rovers now with all the risks and responsibilities that implies.

[John]

  On 14/12/2010 at 19:26, RevidgeBlue said:

Obviously the Trustees who would have gone into the matter in a lot more depth thought otherwise otherwise they wouldn't have sold to the Rao's.

Obviously they haven't because the amount of inconsistencies in what Venky's say suggests they don't have a clue what they are doing.

Plus sacking the manager with no obvious replacement can be seen as a strange one, usually the norm is to have someone lined up. Also, stating that not having a manager will not make a difference during January - WTF?

At least Venky's will be raising their profile, which as they said is there main objective, as the media will surely keep picking up on these strange comments/decisions.

[BRFC1995]

These people realy need to employ some PR or just a talking head who has got a clue.......cant imagine they ever needed to speak publically or to interviewers when flogging chickens, just frightening how out of they're depth and clueless they sound

Sometimes it really is best if they say nothing

thinking about it didnt the fella that bought 'big club' have mcmannaman do all his talking and then stuck him on the board. Seemed a clever move at the time to me on the other hand i guess city employed marwood in a similar role but he seems to have backfired annoying all the players and being a tool.

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 14/12/2010 at 19:34, philipl said:

Incidentally, I am not aware that Venky's have placed anybody on the Rovers Board yet but I would imagine the role of the two brothers in the dismissal of Sam makes them shadow directors of Rovers now with all the risks and responsibilities that implies.

I think paying 23m for the Club plus assuming the responsibility for the debt makes them rather more than that.

If JW or any of the other Directors had wanted outright control over what goes on at Ewood then I'm sure they were quite at liberty to try and come up with the Trustees asking price.

They didn't so they will have to abide by the decisions of the Raos in the same way they had to abide by the decisions made by the Trustees.

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 14/12/2010 at 19:40, John said:

Obviously they haven't because the amount of inconsistencies in what Venky's say suggests they don't have a clue what they are doing.

But everyone on here (especially philip) previously insisted there were numerous safeguards/covenants contained In Jack's will, the Trustees would only sell to anyone who could take the Club on more successfully and we could trust the Trustees to make the right decision.

[philipl]

  On 14/12/2010 at 19:42, RevidgeBlue said:

I think paying 23m for the Club plus assuming the responsibility for the debt makes them rather more than that.

If JW or any of the other Directors had wanted outright control over what goes on at Ewood then I'm sure they were quite at liberty to try and come up with the Trustees asking price.

They didn't so they will have to abide by the decisions of the Raos in the same way they had to abide by the decisions made by the Trustees.

I was looking at it from a narrow company law stand point.

Doesn't matter who owns you- the buck stops at the Directors in law. As you say, the Raos own the Rovers but they can delegate everything to the Board and not carry Director responsibility personally. At present it seems they are by-passing the Board which means the Courts can look through the corporate veil and hold them liable as though they were Directors under the Companies Act without them ever having had any formal authority over their own company (in the eyes of the law). Shadow Directors carry the can without having any of the legal benefits of Director status.

[Wiggy]

  On 14/12/2010 at 19:42, RevidgeBlue said:

They didn't so they will have to abide by the decisions of the Raos in the same way they had to abide by the decisions made by the Trustees.

No they don't Simon, they can walk. Anymore of this sh!t and I'm sure they will.

[yoda]

  On 14/12/2010 at 19:52, philipl said:

I was looking at it from a narrow company law stand point.

Doesn't matter who owns you- the buck stops at the Directors in law. As you say, the Raos own the Rovers but they can delegate everything to the Board and not carry Director responsibility personally. At present it seems they are by-passing the Board which means the Courts can look through the corporate veil and hold them liable as though they were Directors under the Companies Act without them ever having had any formal authority over their own company (in the eyes of the law). Shadow Directors carry the can without having any of the legal benefits of Director status.

You cannot delegate responsibilty, no matter who you are

[True Blue & White]

  On 14/12/2010 at 17:13, LeChuck said:

Free?

£45 million to buy Rovers, £1.5m (ish) to sack Allardyce + staff, money and funds for new manager...

But they still own that asset so in effect still have that money. Getting their name known by most people with a modicum of interest in football could with worth millions to them...

[philipl]

Yes you can. It helps to delegate authority with it so you can exercise responsibility. At this stage I think it is decidedly murky as to who has authority and responsibility at Rovers- hopefully today's chats have helped sort that out.

Yoda, I own shares (a few shares) in some very big companies. If you are right, I and my fellow millions of shareholders cannot delegate responsibility to the Board of Royal Dutch Shell to run it!

[Mr. E]

there is still some very weird talk going on about whether the Trust made a "mistake" or not.

If there were any legal requirements set forth by Jack Walker, then quite clearly the Trust will have been working hard not to honor them, but to find some kind of legal loophole that would allow them to sell.

I mean...for more than a decade they have not cared one iota about the well-being of the club, given us no funding, no support, no communication...and what, suddenly they are concerned about us being in the right hands? How does that work?

[John]

Most of all though, this latest grubby episode, in a league that long ago sold its soul and identity to any rich opportunist capable of passing the joke that is the fit-and-proper-persons test, is a reminder of how the game has changed since the Walker years. When he died a decade ago, Jack Straw, the Home Secretary, said: "Blackburn Rovers was in many ways the love of his life. His contribution to the club was enormous but that was based in turn on the prosperity he created through his astonishing development of Walker Steel and of many other investments in the area. I salute a great local hero and shall miss him very badly."

Five years from now, it's unlikely that fans will be saying similar things about Venky's, Maradona Maya [illusion] or not.

Indian signs not good for Blackburn

[Tom]

I'd like to congratulate these people on one of the least witty comics of all time

Sorry if the language contained is too offensive mods

[BPF]

I can't believe that they've done this and had noone lined up.

Total madness.