47er Posted December 16, 2010 Posted December 16, 2010 Our new owners want us to be in the top 4 or 5 and play only attractive football along the way, without an experienced manager for several months and with ( in relative terms ) limited capital. Fair play to them. I want my wife to look like Catherine Deneuve in her prime, to score the winning goal for Rovers in the Champions League Final against Barcelona, a big lottery win, and of course world peace. Some might accuse me of naivety but hey, we can all dream..... [/quote} Just watching your wife score the winning goal against Barceloa ought to be enough!
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John Posted December 16, 2010 Posted December 16, 2010 I have turned to alcohol again like when Paul Ince took over. It is the only way.
sam_rovers Posted December 16, 2010 Posted December 16, 2010 New website for Venkys. I love that in the news section it says: "Blackburn announce completion of Venky’s takeover" as if Blackburn has taken over Venky's
Wild Irish Rover Posted December 16, 2010 Posted December 16, 2010 why is this a news item on the rovers site? http://www.rovers.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10303~2245013,00.html Has nobody told you? .... these guys bought the shop. They now own the shop, the stock and the goodwill that came with it... and if they wish to show pictures of their arses via their new playground, then they can do as they wish. So be it. Further proof that the game of football is vacant and lost to the vanities and whims of people far far removed from the realities of life for the ordinary working man, where it all began.
philipl Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 David Dun is in the LT today. - the players are gutted abut Sam and Neil leaving - there is a strange atmosphere around the club - players are feeling down - need fan support - West Ham game is crucial - Many non-playing staff are fearing for their jobs - There are going to be big changes behind the scenes - Owners have right to sack Managers - But Sam was getting results - Seve Kean is not mentioned once apparently. The implications of this are horrid. There can be no denying that Rovers are in total crisis from top to bottom and that Venky's have been catastrophic incompetent unprofessional managers to have generated this situation. It took Jerome Anderson six months to totally split the dressing room at Man City, he has done it in under six weeks at Ewood. No matter what you might say about Dunn's injury record and form, David Dunn is a Rover through and through. I have been supporting Rovers all my life and I do not think I have seen a crisis bigger than this one.
ada2020 Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Why is Dunn doing these interviews? Hardly in line to the "stick together" rallying cry issued yesterday by JW is it? Yet you don't sit there slating him for shooting his mouth off.
John Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Dunn is worried about the club he loves and rightly so.
Paul Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Why is Dunn doing these interviews? Hardly in line to the "stick together" rallying cry issued yesterday by JW is it? Yet you don't sit there slating him for shooting his mouth off. On the basis of what Philip has posted the LT article is mainly a re-hash of an interview Dunny did with Radio Lancs on Monday afternoon shortly after Allardyce was sacked.
philipl Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Why is Dunn doing these interviews? Hardly in line to the "stick together" rallying cry issued yesterday by JW is it? Yet you don't sit there slating him for shooting his mouth off. What do you do when the club you love is taking so many wrong turns? There have already been other terminations at Ewood and if the rumours of dismissals I am now hearing are true, the whole town will turn against the Venky's. Dunn has clearly signalled he has heard the same and I suspect he is desperately signalling that getting rid of the Community support and Schools-liaison units amongst others (although he doesn't name them) would be a terrible move. In circumstances like this, all kinds of wild rumours get going and I hope that the currently anticipated wholesale sackings are just that- wild rumours of no substance. What is clear, is there is very little appreciation in Pune of the managerial skills needed to run a business like Blackburn Rovers. I hate to say it after adamantly arguing against many fellow posters on this subject but it seems with these particular Indians, there is a massive and damaging cultural gulf- one on present evidence they seem totally disinterested in bridging.
Roost Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 What do you do when the club you love is taking so many wrong turns? There have already been other terminations at Ewood and if the rumours of dismissals I am now hearing are true, the whole town will turn against the Venky's. Dunn has clearly signalled he has heard the same and I suspect he is desperately signalling that getting rid of the Community support and Schools-liaison units amongst others (although he doesn't name them) would be a terrible move. In circumstances like this, all kinds of wild rumours get going and I hope that the currently anticipated wholesale sackings are just that- wild rumours of no substance. What is clear, is there is very little appreciation in Pune of the managerial skills needed to run a business like Blackburn Rovers. I hate to say it after adamantly arguing against many fellow posters on this subject but it seems with these particular Indians, there is a massive and damaging cultural gulf- one on present evidence they seem totally disinterested in bridging. Philipl, if what you are saying turns out to be true, this is turning into a disaster. Sacking people because they are poor at thier job is one thing, but sacking people just because you have the power to do so is sickening. I hope the rumours are wrong, I really do.
Kelbo Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 What do you do when the club you love is taking so many wrong turns? There have already been other terminations at Ewood and if the rumours of dismissals I am now hearing are true, the whole town will turn against the Venky's. Dunn has clearly signalled he has heard the same and I suspect he is desperately signalling that getting rid of the Community support and Schools-liaison units amongst others (although he doesn't name them) would be a terrible move. In circumstances like this, all kinds of wild rumours get going and I hope that the currently anticipated wholesale sackings are just that- wild rumours of no substance. What is clear, is there is very little appreciation in Pune of the managerial skills needed to run a business like Blackburn Rovers. I hate to say it after adamantly arguing against many fellow posters on this subject but it seems with these particular Indians, there is a massive and damaging cultural gulf- one on present evidence they seem totally disinterested in bridging. I am inclined to agree and worryingly, Venkys cant see that they are doing anything wrong, now thats either very stupid, naive or taking bad advice, on reflection, probably all three!! In one month Venkys have destroyed a wonderful football club, I have a feeling this is all going to end in tears!
Mattyblue Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 What? They are getting rid of the Community schemes? This can't be true?
Wild Irish Rover Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 What do you do when the club you love is taking so many wrong turns? There have already been other terminations at Ewood and if the rumours of dismissals I am now hearing are true, the whole town will turn against the Venky's. Dunn has clearly signalled he has heard the same and I suspect he is desperately signalling that getting rid of the Community support and Schools-liaison units amongst others (although he doesn't name them) would be a terrible move. In circumstances like this, all kinds of wild rumours get going and I hope that the currently anticipated wholesale sackings are just that- wild rumours of no substance. What is clear, is there is very little appreciation in Pune of the managerial skills needed to run a business like Blackburn Rovers. I hate to say it after adamantly arguing against many fellow posters on this subject but it seems with these particular Indians, there is a massive and damaging cultural gulf- one on present evidence they seem totally disinterested in bridging. Unfortunately the information about the withdrawal of funding for the BR Community Trust isn't a wild rumour. Many years of hard work on building links between the club and the local community are being poured down the drain, despite this initiative being one of the most highly regarded of its type in the country. Gird your loins folks, because 'Kansas is about to go bye bye' ;(
bob fleming Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 why is this a news item on the rovers site? http://www.rovers.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10303~2245013,00.html Something to do with marketing the Venkys brand I expect. What I do know is that Balaji is looking mighty sharp.
Wiggy Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 David Dun is in the LT today. - the players are gutted abut Sam and Neil leaving - there is a strange atmosphere around the club - players are feeling down - need fan support - West Ham game is crucial - Many non-playing staff are fearing for their jobs - There are going to be big changes behind the scenes - Owners have right to sack Managers - But Sam was getting results - Seve Kean is not mentioned once apparently. The implications of this are horrid. There can be no denying that Rovers are in total crisis from top to bottom and that Venky's have been catastrophic incompetent unprofessional managers to have generated this situation. It took Jerome Anderson six months to totally split the dressing room at Man City, he has done it in under six weeks at Ewood. No matter what you might say about Dunn's injury record and form, David Dunn is a Rover through and through. I have been supporting Rovers all my life and I do not think I have seen a crisis bigger than this one. I'm wondering if the next stage of the Venky's Disaster is Phil Jones, Chris Samba and others putting in transfer requests for January. You couldn't blame them for wanting out of this farce.
gumboots Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 I'm wondering if the next stage of the Venky's Disaster is Phil Jones, Chris Samba and others putting in transfer requests for January. You couldn't blame them for wanting out of this farce. Well, you couldn't if the fans don't get behind them and say that whoever the owners are, we are still a proud football club and we still want to support them. If all the fans do is go around saying we're doomed then you create an even more negative atmosphere around the place. It's not the players fault that Allardyce was sacked. It's not Kean's fault that Allardyce was sacked and he survived the cull. There are enough things going wrong - we should play our part in making sure that on the pitch, if possible, things go right. I've had quite a few people this week ask me if I was happy now that Allardyce had gone. I'm not because the timing and manner of it has made the club look bad and that annoys me. However, I can see why new owners want a change and saying he had till the end of the season would have made no sense either as, if he knew whatever he did he was getting the elbow, why should he try other than to satisfy his own ego. However rubbish you think the new owners are, they are the ones we are stuck with. They're not going away until they have what they want or until they can't stay any longer, so we might as well work out how to live with them.
Fife Rover Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 In all my 64 years as a Rovers supporter I cannot remember any other event that has so shaken the confidence and trust of the club's supporters. The aftermath of the 1960 Cup final tickets disaster comes very close, and definitely cost the club the loss of many 100's of supporters permanently, and 1000's more for many years. But unless our new owners take a long hard look at their disastrous start to ownership, and learn the lessons needed to correct these mistakes VERY quickly, then I can only see one outcome. They have already alienated most of the pundits and other football managers with their sacking of Sam Allaryce, and now it seems virtually all the press as well. And if what Dunn says is true and the players are on a downer also, what chance is there of us now collecting 3 points off West Ham tomorrow? I really do feel sorry for Steve Kean as he has to now try and pick up the players spirits and somehow get them really up for it again. Meanwhile West Ham are coming to town with their own problems looming large, and their manager under threat of the sack if they don't take at least 3 points from their next 3 games!!! Wonderful scenario??
Majiball Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Unfortunately the information about the withdrawal of funding for the BR Community Trust isn't a wild rumour. Many years of hard work on building links between the club and the local community are being poured down the drain, despite this initiative being one of the most highly regarded of its type in the country. Gird your loins folks, because 'Kansas is about to go bye bye' ;( So are you saying the club is withdrawing its funding for this project? If so its a disgusting move.
tony gale's mic Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 If this is true about withdrawing the community schemes then it really does take things to a whole new level.
Wild Irish Rover Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 So are you saying the club is withdrawing its funding for this project? If so its a disgusting move. Yes, that is what I am saying.
Bobby G Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 I may not be up to scratch about the local scheme, so could someone fill me in about what it is and who has withdrawn what?
Dan Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 The trust needs to be asked some serious questions. The Venky's plague is going to kill our club. Kentaro need to go ASAP, they are the ones telling these idiots what to do.
broadsword Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 I guess withdrawign the Community Scheme is respecting the legacy fo Jack Walker and the values and traditions of the club. Or whatever ###### Madam Desai came out with when she took us over. There's no spin to put on it, it's out of order. Anything regarded as financial ballast is to be thrown over the side. I'm about as pi$$ed off as it gets right now.
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