[Archived] The Dawn Of A New Era

[daveoftherovers]

I guess withdrawign the Community Scheme is respecting the legacy fo Jack Walker and the values and traditions of the club. Or whatever ###### Madam Desai came out with when she took us over.

There's no spin to put on it, it's out of order. Anything regarded as financial ballast is to be thrown over the side.

I'm about as pi$$ed off as it gets right now.

Can someone please point me in the direction of some form of official confirmation of this please?

[Paul]

Unfortunately the information about the withdrawal of funding for the BR Community Trust isn't a wild rumour. Many years of hard work on building links between the club and the local community are being poured down the drain, despite this initiative being one of the most highly regarded of its type in the country.

Gird your loins folks, because 'Kansas is about to go bye bye' ;(

WIR I believe you but can you provide any evidence of this?

[philipl]

The David Dunn interview in the LT.

By highlighting the BRFC Community Trust Fund's plight now, I hope the decision to close it can be reversed now before it is too late.

Let me say I will be delighted to take it in the neck if people are writing that I caused unnecessary worry and alarm because there was never any intention to lose the community and marketing departments.

[Paul]

By highlighting the BRFC Community Trust Fund's plight now, I hope the decision to close it can be reversed now before it is too late.

Philip and WIR I have good friends who work for the Community Trust. I must say for the sake of those who work for the trust and may well be reading this now you should substantiate this remark.

I don't disbelieve you but if you have evidence it really should be shown. This is individual livelihoods you are talking about and these suggestions may well be the cause of unnecessary worry to them.

[philipl]

Philip and WIR I have good friends who work for the Community Trust. I must say for the sake of those who work for the trust and may well be reading this now you should substantiate this remark.

I don't disbelieve you but if you have evidence it really should be shown. This is individual livelihoods you are talking about and these suggestions may well be the cause of unnecessary worry to them.

Paul, I am deeply conscious of this. From what I understand, they are not finding out about the drive to cut overheads back to the absolute minimum considered to be essential from here- I would not have posted it if I thought there were such a risk. I hope to goodness WIR and myself and others who have not posted have got this horribly wrong and that we owe these admirable people the most profound apology for circulating such an awful rumour.

This is one of those awful rock and a hard place times- what is worse trying to influence avoiding a rumoured bad decision or sitting back and watching it happen?

I can only repeat that I desperately hope what a number of people have heard over a period of time is wrong. I have absolutely no contact with Wild Irsh Rover.

[Paul]

Unfortunately the information about the withdrawal of funding for the BR Community Trust isn't a wild rumour. Many years of hard work on building links between the club and the local community are being poured down the drain, despite this initiative being one of the most highly regarded of its type in the country.

Gird your loins folks, because 'Kansas is about to go bye bye' ;(

The Community Trust is not funded by the club as far as I am aware. As a seperate company and registered charity it generates it's own income and receives grants to help fund its work. The Trust is based at the club but I'm not sure it is an owned part of the club.

Let's be clear about this one please.

[Tom]

Hope the community trust stuff isn't true an will wait for a reliable source to confirm, no offence to Philip or WIR but a lot of stuff is being fabricated recently I just hope this is the case.

I'm starting to feel pretty sure that Phil jones will go to the highest bidder in January now.

[Paul]

Paul, I am deeply conscious of this. From what I understand, they are not finding out about the drive to cut overheads back to the absolute minimum considered to be essential from here- I would not have posted it if I thought there were such a risk. I hope to goodness WIR and myself and others who have not posted have got this horribly wrong and that we owe these admirable people the most profound apology for circulating such an awful rumour.

This is one of those awful rock and a hard place times- what is worse trying to influence avoiding a rumoured bad decision or sitting back and watching it happen?

I can only repeat that I desperately hope what a number of people have heard over a period of time is wrong. I have absolutely no contact with Wild Irsh Rover.

I can only say I hope you are completely wrong on this one. Which is not to criticise but I hope you are misinformed or someone has made 2+2 = 5 and passed the info to you. Dodgy ground and I think it best not to speculate, I don't have to tell you this is vastly different from Sam walking away with £1m in his wallet.

[bob]

The club as we know it is finished!

I really can’t believe anyone on here is surprised by all the issues coming out over the last week, Sam going one-way or another was a given after the new owners had come in. It was never going to be a fairy-tale owner with millions to throw at players and after seeing what has happened at Portsmouth with non-footballing people I can’t see any future for us long term. I said it when they first took over nothing good will come of this.

I will take my seat as usual on Saturday but to be honest win/lose or draw I think we will pay the price for sacking Sam not everyone’s cup of tea but a stable Premiership Manager who knows the game inside out. It will be interesting to see come Sunday if people are lording up Mr Kean as brilliant and should get the job.

[Wild Irish Rover]

Just to clarify what I was told, it appears that the club is 'withdrawing support' for the Blackburn Rovers Community Trust which is, as has been pointed out, an independent charitable organisation.

I have no idea what 'withdrawing support' means in practice. Perhaps someone from within the Community Trust could come forward with a statement?

We are certainly entering a new era in the way in which this football club is managed and run. Whether or not it is for the best, only time will tell.

[philipl]

Kamy has just told me that If that is true, the matching funding from the Football Foundation will disappear as well.

The whole point is to get children from across the Borough to Ewood at a very young age. It is critical for growing Rovers' support in the new generations.

[67splitscreen]

Is this not a breach of their undertakings to the the trust and shareholders.

[philipl]

Is this not a breach of their undertakings to the the trust and shareholders.

Possibly- but it has not happened as yet as far as I know and let's hope it will not happen either.

I want Jerome Anderson out of our club but he needs to be afforded a dignified exit.

[Bobby G]

Too much credit is being given to Jerome Anderson like he is a master manipulator.

Its not like our owners are some sort of naive school children or have been possessed by the devil.

I think for everything that's happening the buck stops with the owners and whatever decisions they take. Now whoever has influenced that decision is a moot point.

[67splitscreen]

Possibly- but it has not happened as yet as far as I know and let's hope it will not happen either.

I want Jerome Anderson out of our club but he needs to be afforded a dignified exit.

The same dignity shown to Sam then, I'm all for that.

[philipl]

I have just had a correction that the Community Trust and matched funding are independent of Rovers so that should keep them safe.

Now let's hope all the other community efforts by the club are safe as well.

[Kelbo]

The same dignity shown to Sam then, I'm all for that.

Like that Split, nice one

[yoda]

I have just had a correction that the Community Trust and matched funding are independent of Rovers so that should keep them safe.

Now let's hope all the other community efforts by the club are safe as well.

You have been fanning the flames of discontent for over a month now,

Now you seem to be fire fighting

[tonyoz]

I have just had a correction that the Community Trust and matched funding are independent of Rovers so that should keep them safe.

Now let's hope all the other community efforts by the club are safe as well.

Philipl, you forgot to add:

"I'm sorry I raised this total load of cod in the first place".

[Ricky]

A Similar correction to the one you had to make about the new owners being sat away from jw at ewood when in fact they were pretty much next to each other.

I think you need to look closely at some of the stuff you've posted recently Phil. You seem to be happy to throw anything out there to paint venkys in a bad light. Not quite sure why when they are doing a pretty fine job of it themselves through their contradictory interviews.

[philipl]

A Similar correction to the one you had to make about the new owners being sat away from jw at ewood when in fact they were pretty much next to each other.

I think you need to look closely at some of the stuff you've posted recently Phil. You seem to be happy to throw anything out there to paint venkys in a bad light. Not quite sure why when they are doing a pretty fine job of it themselves through their contradictory interviews.

Ricky,

There are over 150 shots of the Rao brothers at Ewood for the Chelsea game on the internet.

Show me one which has John Williams or Sam Allardyce in the same shot

Find more than ten that do not have Jerome Anderson in the same shot.

The issue you are referring to started with Dunn' comments about job losses and then Wild Irish Rovers posted that Rovers' fundng had been cut off.

Try to tell me that there have not already been lay-offs at Ewood and sadly that there are not great fears for job security amongst all the customer/fan/community facing staff.

Yes the Venky's are making a fine job of looking stupid and listening to the wrong people.

But to the extent they look at the detail on here, they need to know the fans will stand full square with the staff at Ewood.

[bellamy11]

Ricky,

There are over 150 shots of the Rao brothers at Ewood for the Chelsea game on the internet.

Show me one which has John Williams or Sam Allardyce in the same shot

Find more than ten that do not have Jerome Anderson in the same shot.

The issue you are referring to started with Dunn' comments about job losses and then Wild Irish Rovers posted that Rovers' fundng had been cut off.

Try to tell me that there have not already been lay-offs at Ewood and sadly that there are not great fears for job security amongst all the customer/fan/community facing staff.

Yes the Venky's are making a fine job of looking stupid and listening to the wrong people.

But to the extent they look at the detail on here, they need to know the fans will stand full square with the staff at Ewood.

You're changing your story there. You made comments about the specific distance they were sat apart and were subsequently forced to apologise when your information was proven to be incorrect. Yesterday, you have had to do something similar because somebody was suitably annoyed by you reporting misinformation that they had to PM you to set you straight.

As you mention, there could well be truthful elements to your comments - the situation does seem worrying. You're clearly getting reasonably solid information from somewhere. But making these assertive statements in your eagerness to undermine the figures you don't agree with is damaging and serving to create panic where perhaps it is not necessary.

A lot of people here rely on you as a good authority on what is happening at the club (be it financial information or otherwise). There will be some who form their opinion on the new owners almost entirely based on what you are reporting. It is therefore grossly unfair for you to be reporting false statements.

[mhead]

Philip....give them a chance and cut the over-analysis.

You are kind of proving why you were sort of in exile in Malta.

Unity is Strength.

[John]

Give them a chance, they clearly don't know what they are doing and are under major influence from football agents (one of them is a notorious sc*m-bag).

We have been left with an average back room staff, when last week we had a first class one.

I dread to think what the loons from Pune will do next.

[Majiball]

I dread to think what the loons from Pune will do next.

£10.00 quid says they shut down the offices at Ewood and open a call centre in Pune to handle everything.