[Archived] The Dawn Of A New Era

[RevidgeBlue]

Little snippet here, Matt Scott from the Guardian.

Venky's bid for publicity - Whether Venky's shareholders would also accept the Mumbai-stock market-listed entity committing up to £7.2m a year to Ronaldinho when its most recently stated annual group profits were £29m would surely have been doubtful.

Pretty certain that article is incorrect in that Venky's have only committed 20m to buy the Club and agreed to service our debt.

And the suggestion has been made that the Ronaldinho project is a personal one.

Still, never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

[RovertheHill]

Talk to any non-Rovers fan and this is an all too typical view.c

And it is far too early to say it is not accurate.

Philip, you used to be annoyed about this type of garbage, which to be fair, we have had for years and years (including during Jack's time). You demean yourself by giving this any kind of credence.

[deftangel]

Wow, that site's article was written by "Mr Opinion" and all of the comments are anonymous!

You've ruined a good week of good behaviour Phillip I'm afraid! How is anyone supposed to take your info re: Samba seriously if you're posting stuff from random no-name blogs like that?

[deryck guyler's spoon]

"The links to negative Rovers stories service has now been resumed. We apologise for the interruption in service caused by Rovers excellent victory over Liverpool"

I was just going to invite Phillipl to go and boil his head but your post was much better.

[Miker]

In my opinion it is already completely wrong in one respect. Steve Kean is by no means "arrogant" and cocky" in fact he has come across extremely well and has conducted himself extremely well and with great dignity during a very turbulent period.

I'd say he comes across as ambitious, but there's a thin line between arrogant and ambitious.

[roversmum]

How about 'confident'?

[True Blue & White]

I'd say he comes across as ambitious, but there's a thin line between arrogant and ambitious.

I think you mean there is a thin line between confidence and arrogance. Ambition is by it's nature the opposite of arrogance.

[BuckyRover]

I see arrogance as confidence without results.

[philipl]

Pretty certain that article is incorrect in that Venky's have only committed 20m to buy the Club and agreed to service our debt.

And the suggestion has been made that the Ronaldinho project is a personal one.

Still, never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

£35m cash has been handed over and £16.1m debt transferred from Rovers' books to their own books plus £3m still owing to the Trust.

Never mind rev, there are plenty of indications that Venky's are as confused about what they have done as you are.

[Spansterkid]

I've got a feeling that the reason Venky's have bought Rovers and want their name plastered all over the world just now is because they're planning to rapidly expand their new Venky's XPRS brand.

Coming soon to a football stadium/cinema/shopping centre/town centre near you...

[joey_big_nose]

I see arrogance as confidence without results.

My definition would be confidence is faith in your own ability, arrogance is the belief that you are better than others without fully assessing your competitors abilities - ie, that you are inherently better

[FourLaneBlue]

I see arrogance as confidence without results.

Arrogance is being overbearing in assuming your own self-worth.

I can't think of Steve Kean being anything at all overbearing. He says it how he sees it, and does not belittle anyone.

I don't know if Kean is going to be the real deal or not, but he does impress during interviews, and three wins from four games speaks for itself.

If we can actually get some players in rather than just chin-wagging about them, it might be time for us to get all optimistic.

[Brad]

Have a funny feeling , the real reason Sam was sacked was in fact he refused to sell Jones in the January market.. Which venkys didn't take to kindly to, was made to sign a contract of confidentiality...

[vintageadidas]

The Walker trust are fuming with Venky's - they where specifically told not to sack Sam and to keep the youth with potential at the club - such as MO, PJ, DH, GH, FF etc.

They sacked Sam and Jones was on his way to Chelsea in the window.

Wonder if the returned Harrod hampers has cut all communication with one another.

[47er]

The Walker trust are fuming with Venky's - they where specifically told not to sack Sam and to keep the youth with potential at the club - such as MO, PJ, DH, GH, FF etc.

They sacked Sam and Jones was on his way to Chelsea in the window.

Wonder if the returned Harrod hampers has cut all communication with one another.

I'm afraid that the Walker Trust were the only group which could have prevented what they are now apparently unhappy about. They have no right to be angry.

[alexanders]

Speculations.

[Glenn]

The Walker trust are fuming with Venky's - they where specifically told not to sack Sam and to keep the youth with potential at the club - such as MO, PJ, DH, GH, FF etc.

They sacked Sam and Jones was on his way to Chelsea in the window.

Wonder if the returned Harrod hampers has cut all communication with one another.

Unless you're outing yourself as a member of the trust, then whilst it may (or may not) be true, it's an unsubstantiated rumour and should be labled as such (so we don't get into even more trouble). Those are exactly the posts where starting with "I believe ....." can make a world of difference legally.

[BuckyRover]

Unless you're outing yourself as a member of the trust, then whilst it may (or may not) be true, it's an unsubstantiated rumour and should be labled as such (so we don't get into even more trouble). Those are exactly the post where starting with "I believe ....." can make a world of difference legally.

For unsubstantiated rumour read something that someone has just made up to make a point.

I don't care about the trust. They didn't have to sell but they did because they didn't want us. I'm happy Sam has gone and I'm not the only one.

[OscarRaven]

Arrogance is being overbearing in assuming your own self-worth.

I can't think of Steve Kean being anything at all overbearing. He says it how he sees it, and does not belittle anyone.

I don't know if Kean is going to be the real deal or not, but he does impress during interviews, and three wins from four games speaks for itself.If we can actually get some players in rather than just chin-wagging about them, it might be time for us to get all optimistic.

Bearing in mind Steve Kean's overall record is identical to that of Paul Ince's at the same stage, I think its a bit premature to be making any judgements.

I agree with your overall sentiments though.... I'm very surprised (and pleased) with the way he has steadied the ship through the owner induced choppy waters. Something Ince could only dream of mis-managing. Still early days for me though and I would be holding off on a three year deal until the summer.

[yoda]

My definition would be confidence is faith in your own ability, arrogance is the belief that you are better than others without fully assessing your competitors abilities - ie, that you are inherently better

Dictionary says

making claims or pretensions to superior importance or rights; overbearingly assuming; insolently proud

[J*B]

How concrete was this whole "Jones to Chelsea" thing then? Are we expecting him to be leaving in Summer? Seems I missed this.

[budha]

http://roversreturn.net/2011/01/13/kentarosem-runs-rovers-not-venkys/

philipl = roversreturn?

[Steve Moss]

http://roversreturn.net/2011/01/13/kentarosem-runs-rovers-not-venkys/

philipl = roversreturn?

I would hope not. RSC's agent is neither Anderson nor Kentaro/SEM but J. Van Baal of JB Sports2Business. Which is easily googled and blows the conspiracy theory of only Kentaro/SEM signings out of the water.

[philipl]

http://roversreturn.net/2011/01/13/kentarosem-runs-rovers-not-venkys/

philipl = roversreturn?

No not me- never looked at that site before.

Sadly, I think he is correct in his overall argument even though he gets details wrong. We have a situation in which toeing the line for Mrs D means none of the Rovers board has any responsibility for the football side of the business. Now Mrs D says she knows nothing about football and only Balaji is really interested. So is Balaji running the football side or is "member of the family" Jerome Anderson who is spending at least two days a week at Brockhall heading up the football side at Rovers?

Your guess is as good as mine.

[mhead]

I know the signings are slow in happening - but I still think as the thread says that this IS The dawn of a New Era.

The snipers and 'warriors' need to think to where we were really heading with the Trust and BFS. This is an entertainment business and we were treading water and hardly entertaining. Then as soon as we sack BFS everyone complains.Draw a line and move forward with a mixture of exciting young players and a few experienced,non-greedy players.

All power to the new regime.