[Archived] The Dawn Of A New Era

[Craigman]

Could the debt be borrowed from one of their other companies ?

[philipl]

Could the debt be borrowed from one of their other companies ?

It would be reported as a related party transaction if it were.

Here are the borrowings:

SCHEDULE 4: SECURED LOANS

FROM BANKS

Term loans 2010- nil, 2009- 2,442.78

Working capital facilities 2010- 936.03, 2009- 2,715.15

Total 936.03 5,157.93

Security:

a Term loans from banks are secured by equitable mortgage of certain land and buildings

and other structures / fixtures thereon and hypothecation of plant and machinery

and other movable assets, both present and future.

b Working Capital facilities are secured by hypothecation of stocks of raw materials,

stocks in process, semi-finished and finished goods, stores and spares not relating to

plant and machinery (consumable stores and spares), bills receivable and book debts

and all other movables, both present and future. These are further secured by a second

charge on certain fixed assets of the Company by way of collateral security.

SCHEDULE 5: UNSECURED LOANS

SHORT-TERM LOANS

From banks 2010- 8,000.00, 2009- 4,175.00

[Craigman]

Cheers Philip. In India would they report it in a different way ? Just a thought.

[philipl]

Cheers Philip. In India would they report it in a different way ? Just a thought.

See my edited reply- it is bank debt.

Big swing from long term to short term debt in 2010

[cruz]

Here we go. This is the podcast of todays disgraceful Skysports Sunday Supplement.

http://www.skysports.com/podcast/0,20494,19913,00.html

The discussion turns to Rovers after 11 minutes and they ramble on for 4 minutes showing why some people's offspring should be clubbed at birth. Frankly some of the comments are absolutely shameful and I'm sure the little men are asking for a day in court. Someone somewhere actually pay them a wage. I wouldn't have them licking out my sh*thouse with their tongues.

They begin by saying Kean has 'done' Allardcye to get the managers job, and that Kean is a disgrace. But like all cowardly gobsh*tes they the say it's 'alleged' and offer no proof whatsoever to back up their claims.

They then make childish remarks about chicken farmers, chicken nuggets and idiots. Then finish off by saying they will be glad if we end up in the championship playing in front of crowds of 10,000. You can even hear some of them giggling like little girls in the background and chanting "You don't know what you're doing" and claiming that we should all be on our knees kissing Allardyce's backside.

Whilst some forum members may agree with some or all of the things they have said surely it's not an etirely professional way of going about things

[John]

Here we go. This is the podcast of todays disgraceful Skysports Sunday Supplement.

http://www.skysports.com/podcast/0,20494,19913,00.html

The discussion turns to Rovers after 11 minutes and they ramble on for 4 minutes showing why some people's offspring should be clubbed at birth. Frankly some of the comments are absolutely shameful and I'm sure the little men are asking for a day in court. Someone somewhere actually pay them a wage. I wouldn't have them licking out my sh*thouse with their tongues.

They begin by saying Kean has 'done' Allardcye to get the managers job, and that Kean is a disgrace. But like all cowardly gobsh*tes they the say it's 'alleged' and offer no proof whatsoever to back up their claims.

They then make childish remarks about chicken farmers, chicken nuggets and idiots. Then finish off by saying they will be glad if we end up in the championship playing in front of crowds of 10,000. You can even hear some of them giggling like little girls in the background and chanting "You don't know what you're doing" and claiming that we should all be on our knees kissing Allardyce's backside.

Whilst some forum members may agree with some or all of the things they have said surely it's not an etirely professional way of going about things

Shocking stuff - even more shocking if these allegations are true.....Sam hinted with his comments (post sacking) that someone maybe stabbed him in the back.

[cruz]

Sam would imply that because when your ego is has big as his there is no way on earth you can ever contemplate not being somebodies cup of tea

Here's a bit more summing up I found on another messagebaord

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That Podcast so needs to be looked into by the Venkys legal team.

It's from 11 mins onwards they start talking about Rovers.

It was absolutely disgusting.

Some comments i have picked out for anyone who can't listen to the podcast...

"apparently Steve Kean has got a contract for two and a half years". "well that'll probably be about 2 and a half weeks when he goes".

One of them followed on with "i know the current manager isn't too popular in football at the moment"...

They then went on to imply that believed that Kean had gone behind Sam Allardyce's back (to the owners) and got him sacked so he could have the job.

"Sam took this bloke off the dole queue and gave him a job and this bloke has done Sam to get this job"... Correct me if i am wrong, but hadn't Kean turned down a job at Chelsea? It obviously was never about the money...

Add to this his qualifications on taking the job. Speaks 3 languages, has been in the sport for the whole of his adult life, numerous coaching positions...

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Apparently "Sam made them (us) into a top 10 team", and "increased their (our) attendances". Correct me if i am wrong, but i thought it was the reduction in ticket prices that increased the attendance. Not that it get's mentioned at all?

Also top 10 team. There i was thinking we'd finished 6th twice, 7th once and 10th twice in the 7 years before Sam even arrived?!

That snide comment "i think in 2 years time you will find themselves in the middle of the Championship playing infront of about 10,000 people and his (Kean) honours will deserve it" particularly made my skin crawl.

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No respect for the club, no respect for the players, no respect for the staff and absolutely no respect for the fans. The sniggering and laughter in the backround didn't help.

Ironic that they still managed to back Liverpool's and West Ham's owners in their decisions to sack Roy Hodgson and possibly Avram Grant after saying in the same interview (regards Sam specifically) that managers should get at least a season to prove themselves. "Avram would take West Ham down..." No comments about the job Roy did for Fulham or how he was being linked with the England managers job not so long ago.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Their comments were vicious and totally out of order infront of a TV audience.It was bad enough listening to that this morning!!

[damo100]

Sam would imply that because when your ego is has big as his there is no way on earth you can ever contemplate not being somebodies cup of tea

Here's a bit more summing up I found on another messagebaord

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That Podcast so needs to be looked into by the Venkys legal team.

It's from 11 mins onwards they start talking about Rovers.

It was absolutely disgusting.

Some comments i have picked out for anyone who can't listen to the podcast...

"apparently Steve Kean has got a contract for two and a half years". "well that'll probably be about 2 and a half weeks when he goes".

One of them followed on with "i know the current manager isn't too popular in football at the moment"...

They then went on to imply that believed that Kean had gone behind Sam Allardyce's back (to the owners) and got him sacked so he could have the job.

"Sam took this bloke off the dole queue and gave him a job and this bloke has done Sam to get this job"... Correct me if i am wrong, but hadn't Kean turned down a job at Chelsea? It obviously was never about the money...

Add to this his qualifications on taking the job. Speaks 3 languages, has been in the sport for the whole of his adult life, numerous coaching positions...

"John Jensen was on their bench yesterday, and suprise suprise they (Kean and Jensen) both have the same agent...

First do Kean and Jensen have the same agent? I didn't think they did? I know Kean is with Kentaro/SEM but i thought Jensen was with another agency.

Apparently "Sam made them (us) into a top 10 team", and "increased their (our) attendances". Correct me if i am wrong, but i thought it was the reduction in ticket prices that increased the attendance. Not that it get's mentioned at all?

Also top 10 team. There i was thinking we'd finished 6th twice, 7th once and 10th twice in the 7 years before Sam even arrived?!

That snide comment "i think in 2 years time you will find themselves in the middle of the Championship playing infront of about 10,000 people and his (Kean) honours will deserve it" particularly made my skin crawl.

One of them finished off with, "at that point they could have Jerome Anderson as manager". Surely that is libel for legal action in itself?!

No respect for the club, no respect for the players, no respect for the staff and absolutely no respect for the fans. The sniggering and laughter in the backround didn't help.

Ironic that they still managed to back Liverpool's and West Ham's owners in their decisions to sack Roy Hodgson and possibly Avram Grant after saying in the same interview (regards Sam specifically) that managers should get at least a season to prove themselves. "Avram would take West Ham down..." No comments about the job Roy did for Fulham or how he was being linked with the England managers job not so long ago.

[NookRover]

As I stated on the other thread....... Put egotistical, I love the sound of my own voice, muck raking idiots (by the way don't you just love 'The Academy of Football') in front of a camera and that's what you get! And your Sky Sports, armchair, football lover will lap it all up! I'd rather buy a season ticket at 'Turf than watch and take to heart anything said on that programme!

[Amo]

Surely the club could sue those comments for slander?

[roversmum]

Shocking stuff - even more shocking if these allegations are true.....Sam hinted with his comments (post sacking) that someone maybe stabbed him in the back.

Sour grapes? The only perpetrator of Sam's sacking was himself. 7-1 anybody? Even I had got to the stage where I was not looking forward to going to watch Rovers.

And I quite liked him

[philipl]

Surely the club could sue those comments for slander?

They would have the slight problem of establishing the truth.

These guys are journalists and would know exactly what they could get away with and what would stand up in a Court of Law under disclosure.

I know people will hate me for saying this, but from what I've become aware of, I'd be astonished if anyone has even so much as rung their lawyers over those comments.

[Valois]

They would have the slight problem of establishing the truth.

These guys are journalists and would know exactly what they could get away with and what would stand up in a Court of Law under disclosure.

I know people will hate me for saying this, but from what I've become aware of, I'd be astonished if anyone has even so much as rung their lawyers over those comments.

What would that be Phillip?

[philipl]

What would that be Phillip?

I think those journos know with reason they are pretty bomb proof. I am not going any further.

[67splitscreen]

Then keep your trap shut.

No need for that type of comment, the rep buttons have been removed.

[Paul Mellelieu]

Who are the journalists in the programme?

[deryck guyler's spoon]

No need for that type of comment, the rep buttons have been removed.

Sorry, but there's every need. This guy's been at it for too long with his "sources" and inferences that he knows what the rest of us dont. His statements cant be disproved when he presents them as facts and then hides behind "cant reveal". Very convenient. As I have said before, he should either put up or shut up.

Shame about the rep buttons, they allowed you to vent your feelings without having to post stuff like this.

[92er]

Sorry, but there's every need. This guy's been at it for too long with his "sources" and inferences that he knows what the rest of us dont. His statements cant be disproved when he presents them as facts and then hides behind "cant reveal". Very convenient. As I have said before, he should either put up or shut up.

Shame about the rep buttons, they allowed you to vent your feelings without having to post stuff like this.

Why don't you just put Philip on "ignore".

There appear to be quite a number of posters who enjoy Philip.

[67splitscreen]

Sorry, but there's every need. This guy's been at it for too long with his "sources" and inferences that he knows what the rest of us dont. His statements cant be disproved when he presents them as facts and then hides behind "cant reveal". Very convenient. As I have said before, he should either put up or shut up.

Shame about the rep buttons, they allowed you to vent your feelings without having to post stuff like this.

Why not take your agenda and focus it on BPF and Kamy just to mention two, from what I hear their sources are pretty much the same. Think they call it the loop.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

Why don't you just put Philip on "ignore".

There appear to be quite a number of posters who enjoy Philip.

The ignore facility dosn't really work on 'prolific' posters.

Why not take your agenda and focus it on BPF and Kamy just to mention two, from what I hear their sources are pretty much the same. Think they call it the loop.

Those two posters dont spam the boards with the same stuff as if they are propaganda ministers in some sinister regime.

With regard to the rep buttons, maybe they were removed because Phillipl wasn't getting the red message.

[Glenn]

Then keep your trap shut.

WTF is this if it's not a direct personal attack with absolute no attempt at debate and no attempt to contribute to the thread. A little banter I can cope with, even the odd dig mid debate, but this is just pointless aggressive name calling.

Well, there is going to be some enforced trap shutting for a while.

Consider this your notification of why.

[67splitscreen]

The ignore facility dosn't really work on 'prolific' posters.

Those two posters dont spam the boards with the same stuff as if they are propaganda ministers in some sinister regime.

Perhaps he is the chairman of the loop board.

I'll leave it there. Oh! and your right the ignore facility has it's failings, it's called the quote button.

[roverwhelmed]

Sam would imply that because when your ego is has big as his there is no way on earth you can ever contemplate not being somebodies cup of tea

Here's a bit more summing up I found on another messagebaord

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That Podcast so needs to be looked into by the Venkys legal team.

It's from 11 mins onwards they start talking about Rovers.

It was absolutely disgusting.

Some comments i have picked out for anyone who can't listen to the podcast...

"apparently Steve Kean has got a contract for two and a half years". "well that'll probably be about 2 and a half weeks when he goes".

One of them followed on with "i know the current manager isn't too popular in football at the moment"...

They then went on to imply that believed that Kean had gone behind Sam Allardyce's back (to the owners) and got him sacked so he could have the job.

"Sam took this bloke off the dole queue and gave him a job and this bloke has done Sam to get this job"... Correct me if i am wrong, but hadn't Kean turned down a job at Chelsea? It obviously was never about the money...

Add to this his qualifications on taking the job. Speaks 3 languages, has been in the sport for the whole of his adult life, numerous coaching positions...

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Apparently "Sam made them (us) into a top 10 team", and "increased their (our) attendances". Correct me if i am wrong, but i thought it was the reduction in ticket prices that increased the attendance. Not that it get's mentioned at all?

Also top 10 team. There i was thinking we'd finished 6th twice, 7th once and 10th twice in the 7 years before Sam even arrived?!

That snide comment "i think in 2 years time you will find themselves in the middle of the Championship playing infront of about 10,000 people and his (Kean) honours will deserve it" particularly made my skin crawl.

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No respect for the club, no respect for the players, no respect for the staff and absolutely no respect for the fans. The sniggering and laughter in the backround didn't help.

Ironic that they still managed to back Liverpool's and West Ham's owners in their decisions to sack Roy Hodgson and possibly Avram Grant after saying in the same interview (regards Sam specifically) that managers should get at least a season to prove themselves. "Avram would take West Ham down..." No comments about the job Roy did for Fulham or how he was being linked with the England managers job not so long ago.

That has just made my blood boil.

Come on Keano, prove them wrong. Half a mind to cancel my sky subscription and to put in an official complaint.

[SouthAussieRover]

Who are the journalists in the programme?

John Richardson (Sunday Express),Martin Samuel (Daily Mail) and Neil someody or other from the Sun.

Who they are and who they work for says it all really?