[Archived] The Dawn Of A New Era

[philipl]

Do we think these links to Red Star Belgrade are for real?

This information might be out of date now but here goes:

- Red Star Belgrade were bust (again) this summer. Makes me wonder how they can afford to pay for Formica.

- But they are still State owned although due to be privatised.

- Kentaro are the media partners for Serbia

OK now I am speculating:

Red Star and Rovers to become part of a network of clubs like Kentaro's network of countries.

Red Star Belgrade to have third party ownership of players like Joorabchian had of Tevez and Mascherone but because they are a club, third party rules of ownership are by-passed. However, the economic benefits from players like Formica would be weighted towards whoever is putting the money into Red Star.

I had been struggling to see how Anderson was going to make his usual millions out of his involvement (don't worry Glenn, I won't going to use the word that had come to mind) at Rovers. If Red Star are table-topped in Formica, the laminate will be well worth looking at.

[philipl]

"ESPNsoccernet understands that there are many people trying to sort out the management of the club who are acutely embarrassed by the wide-of-the-mark transfer speculation."

From the post on the Riquelme thread.

[BuckyRover]

"ESPNsoccernet understands that there are many people trying to sort out the management of the club who are acutely embarrassed by the wide-of-the-mark transfer speculation."

From the post on the Riquelme thread.

Have they been on the phone to you?

[Glenn]

Have they been on the phone to you?

I appreciate the point you're trying to make, but your quipy digs are just as tiresome.

Anyway, I was listening to a Fighting Talk podcast from a couple of weeks ago earlier, and after the Ronaldhinio link, the panel pointed out we've now become a laughing stock, that the press can now link us with anyone and it won't seem as outlandish (they even shared Jim's joke of picking names at random from the 2005 edition of Rothmans).

I'll see if I can find a link, so you don't have to listen to the entire thing.

Edit, seems the online version is only available for 7 days. Shame.

[philipl]

Sports Minister blasts the administration of football in Britain

Have to say something has gone horribly awry for the Raos to have landed so utterly under-prepared for what they have taken on.

[BuckyRover]

Philipl. They successfully run a multinational conglomerate. There are plenty more examples of underprepared chairpersons. It's a learning process no doubt, but they are already showing signs that's they are learning, after only a couple of months.

[thenodrog]

Philipl. They successfully run a multinational conglomerate. There are plenty more examples of underprepared chairpersons. It's a learning process no doubt, but they are already showing signs that's they are learning, after only a couple of months.

Lesson 1. If it aint broke.....

[BuckyRover]

Lesson 1. If it aint broke.....

If what isn't broke?

It was broke, that is why we had wages at 90% of turnover, had to sell our best players to keep running and our previous owners wanted to sell.

[patrickvalery]

Sports Minister blasts the administration of football in Britain

Have to say something has gone horribly awry for the Raos to have landed so utterly under-prepared for what they have taken on.

Philip, i think they have made some very questionable decisions since they took us over. However i think even the most hardened haters must admit we have seen an improvement in recent weeks. Maybe they were unprepared for the world of football, but thats something we can't do anything about. All we can hope for is a continued level of improvement. Thus far i think they have demonstrated they are learning.

Everyone said anyone buying us would have to accept they would not make any profit. Well, this lot seem to be doing some quirky stuff for sure. But, to use a nasty cliche, 'thinking outside of the box' may be what is required. So far we haven't spent out on any transfer fees, yet we have two international players with bags of experience until the season's end. We are linked with some promising youngsters and all the while the club has gained huge coverage and publicity. Granted, not all good in our eyes. But remember, different cultures perceive things in different ways. Not every culture is as clued up on football, suspicious by nature and xenophobic as us Brits. Yet all of the worlds many cultures are all potential revenue streams.

Of course, everything above could be and is likely to be a load of old toss. But maybe this lot have a little more savy than we give them credit for?

[dave birch]

Sports Minister blasts the administration of football in Britain

Have to say something has gone horribly awry for the Raos to have landed so utterly under-prepared for what they have taken on.

Philip, I understand your position on this takeover and to be quite honest, I was close to that position myself at the time.

However, as time passes and I see thing happening, (positive things, I might add) I'm gradually coming round to the thought that the Venky's are getting it together.

If they've made mistakes, it's only to be expected. They aren't mistakes that have been earth shattering or dangerous to the business.

I remember when I was working for one of the major banks in the early 80's, we were being "subject to a merger". It was acknowledged that our bank had the best computer system in the southern hemisphere and at the time possibly the world. What did the "senior partner" in the takeover do? The shafted our system in favour of theirs, only to realise their mistake two years later, when it was all but impossible to resurrect the old system. It cost them tens of millions of dollars.

So,from my point of view, NOW, is that the Venky's, whilst they are making some problems for themselves, are gradually getting things on track.

At the back of my mind is the fact that they cannot afford to stuff this up. They cannot afford to let the club go down/under etc, as the effect on their other (core) business could be catastrophic.

[thenodrog]

At the back of my mind is the fact that they cannot afford to stuff this up. They cannot afford to let the club go down/under etc, as the effect on their other (core) business could be catastrophic.

Why?

[47er]

If what isn't broke?

It was broke, that is why we had wages at 90% of turnover, had to sell our best players to keep running and our previous owners wanted to sell.

Got to agree with Bucky here.

[dave birch]

Why?

Theno, They are trying to "globalise" their core businesses. They are trying to get an international image.

They foul this up, they'll be seen as failures in their own country; not good for business at home. Failure at BRFC could (probably will) set their ambitions back decades.

[Mercer]

Obviously, we have to accept that our club is under new ownership and it's Venkys' right to manage and exploit the opportunity as they see fit.

First noises were all good but, seemingly, the concern of some supporters is that they haven't walked the walk; earliest and most transparent example is not giving Sam his chance as they said they would.

It is not clear who is calling the shots in terms of strategy this window in agreeing targets, negotiating sale and acquisitions, whether it be loan or permanent. Again, this is their right and they can keep private if they wish to do so. However, whether it's parts of the media or MB users with good contacts, there seems to be some indifferent perception about the way the club is now managing its transfer business.

Yes, they might be learning some aspects about operating a PL football club, however, the risk is that some of the previously held values may not have been upheld and trying to recapture lost goodwill can often be a long, expensive and painstaking exercise.

[BuckyRover]

Got to agree with Bucky here.

I'm quite rational sometimes.

[NookRover]

Theno, They are trying to "globalise" their core businesses. They are trying to get an international image.

They foul this up, they'll be seen as failures in their own country; not good for business at home. Failure at BRFC could (probably will) set their ambitions back decades.

Correct! And it has to be said a lot of Asian culture is about "face"! Being seen as a failure would be a disaster for their business!

[RevidgeBlue]

Sports Minister blasts the administration of football in Britain

Have to say something has gone horribly awry for the Raos to have landed so utterly under-prepared for what they have taken on.

I don't know how the mods continually let you get away with relentlessly trolling the m/b sniping at the new owners.

As for this particularly pathetic attempt, the article in question clearly refers to the FA and does not refer to any individual Club owners in particular. And certainly not ours.

But don't let that stop you.

[SouthAussieRover]

I don't know how the mods continually let you get away with relentlessly trolling the m/b sniping at the new owners.

As for this particularly pathetic attempt, the article in question clearly refers to the FA and does not refer to any individual Club owners in particular. And certainly not ours.

But don't let that stop you.

You seem to have resurfaced and started posting a lot more now that Allardyce and the Trust have moved on.

Why's that?

[tonyoz]

Lesson 1. If it aint broke.....

No one is going to commit 50 million to a quaint little old club in Lancashire just to sustain a dogged battle against relegation every year. For that sort of money I would want excitement and a decent spectacle every weekend. If you come away from Ewood on Saturday with a smile on your face - that would be progress right?

[PAFELL]

Sports Minister blasts the administration of football in Britain

Have to say something has gone horribly awry for the Raos to have landed so utterly under-prepared for what they have taken on.

There is nothing in that article about Blackburn, Rovers,Venky's, Anderson, Kentaro, Raos, or even chickens. So I am at a lost as to how you can use that article to flog the owners with.

At this moment in time what have the owners done wrong in the few months they have been the owners.

Ok their PR is not good and they sacked Sam. PR they can improve on and the latter - well some will be happy with that and some will not be, but it is their club and they have made the choice.

Maybe it is time you give them the chance that they have paid for. They are business people, but new to football business. Therefore bound to be teething problems for awhile. I also suggest they were not prepared for the media circus owning a football club would bring.

But at this moment in time they have done nothing wrong with regards to Rovers.

[yoda]

philipl, on 20 January 2011 - 21:23 PM, said:

Sports Minister blasts the administration of football in Britain

Have to say something has gone horribly awry for the Raos to have landed so utterly under-prepared for what they have taken on.

I don't know how the mods continually let you get away with relentlessly trolling the m/b sniping at the new owners.

As for this particularly pathetic attempt, the article in question clearly refers to the FA and does not refer to any individual Club owners in particular. And certainly not ours.

But don't let that stop you.

I thought this bit was a compliment to the EPL

For the Government to take on the slick executives of the Premier League would be a heavyweight bout. The Premier League is an incredibly successful, money-spinning entity which generates billions in television revenue.

Still philipl has a thing about the new owners and cannot be swayed.

I also had mine and wrote to them several times, I am sure it is not connected but things seem to be improving now.

They are shrewd business people and will learn quickly

cue philipl to now lambast their various businesses publicly listed or not!

[BuckyRover]

Yoda.

You had valid concerns and acted in an appropriate manner by writing to the club to express your feelings. That is a good way to act.

I doubt philipl that has contacted the club with his concerns. There probably aren't enough hours in the day.

[jim mk2]

. There probably aren't enough hours in the day.

Talking of which, you were the most prolific poster on here over the past 24 hours and are regularly in the top 3.

Have you nothing better to do or are you a victim of the Tory cuts and joined the long-term unemployed ?

[BuckyRover]

Im willing to bet that you don't post from your phone.

That means all of your posts have been while sat at a pc. Whereas I post from the train, while having lunch, in bars etc. Yet your daily post average is still above mine. Plus I'm not even taking into account that you are onto your second username.

Who is the loser here? (I know you continually back losers but that's not my point).

[jim mk2]

. Whereas I post from the train, while having lunch, in bars etc. but that's not my point).

Reiterating my previous statement that you have nothing better to do, so what is your point ?

Have a look at your posts too. Very little to contribute except silly one-liners that often add nothing to the debate.

Look forward to your next reply adding to your daily tally.