[Archived] The Dawn Of A New Era

[Athlete]

That's better news than the accountants just being binned as was reported before.

they have replaced the accountants with a KPMG a top tier accountancy firm why when they decided to get rid of big Sam didnt they replace him with a top tier manager and not a never managed no idea puppet ????

[CrazyIvan]

they have replaced the accountants with a KPMG a top tier accountancy firm why when they decided to get rid of big Sam didnt they replace him with a top tier manager and not a never managed no idea puppet ????

Is he a puppet? Funny, I can't see any strings... His safety net has apparently long since departed so why keep on saying the same thing?

[bob fleming]

Reality and scare mongering, come on how many times has this happened already?

Imy, if Venky's invaded Poland you'd have difficulty in finding fault. They just need time after all. Not that I'm suggesting they will invade Poland. Not this season anyway.

[tony gale's mic]

Reality and scare mongering, come on how many times has this happened already?

Yeah, it's not like we're at massive risk of relegation and financial disaster!

[broadsword]

Imy, if Venky's invaded Poland you'd have difficulty in finding fault. They just need time after all. Not that I'm suggesting they will invade Poland. Not this season anyway.

- Are you going to invade Poland?

- No

- Are you going to invade Poland?

- Yes

- Are you going to invade Poland?

- No

- Have you invaded Poland?

- No

- Have you invaded Poland?

- Yes

etc etc.

[imy9]

Imy, if Venky's invaded Poland you'd have difficulty in finding fault. They just need time after all. Not that I'm suggesting they will invade Poland. Not this season anyway.

One could argue that the last line sums up your viewpoint about Venkys well, metaphorically speaking ofcourse.

I am critical about Venkys but just because I don't think that they are genocidal nutters makes it difficult to find fault? Ok...

Reiterating again how many half stories have we seen on this MB that has turned out to be BS but read the comments... wow, genuine hatred, then when it's a non story the thread dies quietly.

[47er]

One could argue that the last line sums up your viewpoint about Venkys well, metaphorically speaking ofcourse.

I am critical about Venkys but just because I don't think that they are genocidal mutters makes it difficult to find fault? Ok...

Reiterating again how many half stories have we seen on this MB that has turned out to be BS but read the comments... wow, genuine hatred, then when it's a non story the thread dies quietly.

No hatred from me--I welcomed them with open arms. They have made an absolute shambles of it don't you think?

[imy9]

They own our club, yes they have made blunders, they are humans afterall, however as long as they are here and are backing our club they deserve our respect. They are successful business people, football is new to them but I have little doubt that they will make us successful.

[bob fleming]

I don't really think the Venkys have any intention of invading Poland. I was being silly.

Imy - let's not bother with the half stories, let's look at the facts. The decisions that have taken place - all well documented on this website - facts. Damned bad decision making that goes beyond naivity. IMO of course.

All culminating with the signing of Jerome Anderson's son. The tipping point moment for me, when it really did become all clear that this lot are extracting the urine to such a degree that they don't actually care anymore what we think.

Besides the perilous state that our team is in, they then put a story out that we're after Ruud Van Nostrilboy for next season. Smashing news. Absolutely smashing. Nowt else going on this week then? No relegation battle?

Still Venkys get another mention. Someone asked how the marketing campaign was going earlier today. Well everyone knows their name now don't they? There's no such thing as bad publicity apparently. "Venky's? oh that was that lot who messed Blackburn up wasn't it? Serves them right for letting them buy the club!"

Trust. Trust the Club, trust the Board, trust the Manager. Hmmm.

[imy9]

Facts are they paid a lot of money for our club to make it successful.

They have already spent more in one transfer window than the trust have done in years.

They are here for the medium to long term and will invest more money.

Yes they made some truly woeful decisions but I can see the good as well as the bad, surely something every needs to do?

[Mattyblue]

What proof do you have that they have spent ANY of THEIR money post takeover?

[bob fleming]

1. Facts are they paid a lot of money for our club to make it successful.

2. They have already spent more in one transfer window than the trust have done in years.

3. They are here for the medium to long term and will invest more money.

4. Yes they made some truly woeful decisions but I can see the good as well as the bad, surely something every needs to do?

1. Money that could be recouped by selling someone like Phil Jones, or parachute payments or via a mortgage.

2. Could be debt. The Trust could have run up debt quite easily. That was Jacks legacy, next to no debt. Money spent on what exactly? Two loan signings (now that's debt - their wages) and two players yet to play.

3. How do you know that? Nicko and AN Other poster on here? I've seen nothing to suggest they actually care about the clubs long term future. Let alone have a clue how to plan for it.

4. Fair enough, that's your opinion.

Look, I might be completely wrong. I'd love to be completely wrong. I just don't get it. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever to me.

[Steve Moss]

. . . as long as they are here and are backing our club they deserve our respect.

Just because they wrote a check and/or took out loans to buy the club doesn't mean they deserve respect. Respect is earned, not bought. When they do something worthy of respect, then they'll start to earn it.

[imy9]

The key word is 'could' I don't live my life thinking what could happen, there is no point mulling over things that we don't know. Yes stress about where we are in the league and the way we are playing but the rest.. Just my opinion for what it's worth.

Steve- the day they bought our club they instantly gained respect. I didn't see a queue of people willing to buy our club, they may be naive owners but they are our naive owners!

[Mattyblue]

They deserve nowt after the way they've behaved. Any good will has long since evaporated.

[cn174]

Steve- the day they bought our club they instantly gained respect. I didn't see a queue of people willing to buy our club, they may be naive owners but they are our naive owners!

Like I said pages ago now, when they first bought us the majority of people were happy and were cautiously optimistic about the future. I mentioned that at Bolton away people were even signing pro-Venkys songs.

But whatever 'respect' they did have has completely gone imo, and it is all of their own doing because of the ridiculous decisions they've made since then. It will take a long time to get people back on their side, and they don't seem to be trying particularly hard to do it.

[philipl]

The key word is 'could' I don't live my life thinking what could happen, there is no point mulling over things that we don't know. Yes stress about where we are in the league and the way we are playing but the rest.. Just my opinion for what it's worth.

Steve- the day they bought our club they instantly gained respect. I didn't see a queue of people willing to buy our club, they may be naive owners but they are our naive owners!

There were four bidders in the last six months of the Walker Trust, all four of which were favourites at one time or another. There were earlier bidders which did not reach the public attention, one of which I am sure the Trust and the family now bitterly regrets turning away.

In many ways the Trust committed to Venky's too early. New offers came in after the Trust made a commitment to Venky's which they decided to honour but in my opinion was breakable. If only Venky's had paid more attention to honouring the spirit and the letter of what they put in writing on the day they bought the club- in my opinion there is a huge gap between what we (and the Trust) were encouraged to believe and what has now happened even though Alan Nixon was saying differently and was sadly proved correct (and I would not be surprised if even the Venky's are now regretting the day they met Jerome Anderson).

Respect like trust is something that is earned. It is also something that is very easy to lose and incredibly difficult to regain. Simply writing a cheque to buy something says something about economic power but for the majority of people it does not necessarily create a feeling of respect towards the cheque writer.

I would hate to think what result a "Do you respect Venky's?" poll would produce amongst Rovers fans not just on this website but generally. I don't want to see such a poll as the outcome would be a gift to the press who are already hammering us in the absence of any sort of effective or influential PR on behalf of the Rovers.

[PAFELL]

I don't really think the Venkys have any intention of invading Poland. I was being silly.

Imy - let's not bother with the half stories, let's look at the facts. The decisions that have taken place - all well documented on this website - facts. Damned bad decision making that goes beyond naivity. IMO of course.

All culminating with the signing of Jerome Anderson's son. The tipping point moment for me, when it really did become all clear that this lot are extracting the urine to such a degree that they don't actually care anymore what we think.

Besides the perilous state that our team is in, they then put a story out that we're after Ruud Van Nostrilboy for next season. Smashing news. Absolutely smashing. Nowt else going on this week then? No relegation battle?

Still Venkys get another mention. Someone asked how the marketing campaign was going earlier today. Well everyone knows their name now don't they? There's no such thing as bad publicity apparently. "Venky's? oh that was that lot who messed Blackburn up wasn't it? Serves them right for letting them buy the club!"

Trust. Trust the Club, trust the Board, trust the Manager. Hmmm.

In my opinion venky's biggest mistake was letting Jerome Anderson anyway near themselves, India, and Blackburn Rovers. Yet ironically it could also be a godsend. Venkys now know that football can be a cut throat business like any other. So I hope the learn - fast - from their mistakes.

[Mattyblue]

Are they regretting Anderson's involvement? Is his role and/or Huber's role diminishing?

Doesn't seem like it as we have just signed Our Myles.

[PAFELL]

Are they regretting Anderson's involvement? Is his role and/or Huber's role diminishing?

Doesn't seem like it as we have just signed Our Myles.

Maybe that was a commitment that once committed there was no way out. Never seen myles play, so I reserve judgemnt on his ability or lack of ability until then. But it is a strange signing all the same.

Not sure if anybody has confirmed that Anderson is no longer involved with venkys or the club.

[booth]

And let's not forget, Mr Kean is in charge who is managed by Kentaro as is Jensen. So even though Jerome Anderson may be no more (does anyone know for sure?), his spirit is alive and well at the club either way.

[jim mk2]

. So I hope they learn - fast - from their mistakes.

Too late - the damage has been done.

Owing to cultural differences there is also no reason to believe that they will admit to making mistakes let alone correct them.

The title of this thread should be renamed The End of An Era because Venky's in 3 short months have undone all the good work at Ewood of the past 20 years and, for the first time in the club's 136-year history, made Rovers an object of ridicule in the eyes of football fans around the country.

[booth]

The title of this thread should be renamed The End of An Era because Venky's in 3 short months have undone all the good work at Ewood of the past 20 years and, for the first time in the club's 136-year history, made Rovers an object of ridicule in the eyes of football fans around the country.

I hope you are wrong and they do admit to their mistakes, and apologize. It could make some supporters more sympathetic towards them. Even if they admitted they had been wrongly advised I'd think more of them. Everyone makes mistakes especially when out of their comfort zone, and even more so when they are being misinformed. If we get relegated and no such apologies are made then it will add insult to injury.

I totally agree with the above quote though. End of an era indeed.

What a shame.

The problem is that they are still continuing to make mistakes. If they didn't want Sam at the club then fair enough, but to appoint a novice and to continue backing him when it's clearly not working out, is a mistake in itself. And don't get me started on the JW/JA, Jensen, extended contracts, Anderson signing, Kentaro/SEM stuff.

I bet Mike Ashley thanks God every night for the Rao's, put it that way.

[Pete1981]

Venky's vow to stick by Blackburn Rovers

[Kelbo]

Respect like trust is something that is earned. It is also something that is very easy to lose and incredibly difficult to regain.

One of my favourite sayings comes from this, its worth remembering for so many situations, 'You dont get a second chance to make a first impression'