[Archived] Steve Kean

[OJRovers]

Charlie Nicolas has been one of the experts who has actually given Rovers credit where it has been due over the last few years, he seems to actually know more about us than the others who only really focus on the big 4/5.

Agreed though, if we don't get anything from the Villa game there's not going to be many positives to talk about.

[Guest linganzi]

I'm starting to have concerns about keane . Naive in A few areas

[blue_and_white]

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/5505/5/exclusive-kean-blackburn-targeting-european-place

This shisha problem in Blackburn must be worse than I thought. Who exactly are we gonna finish above next season to make top 6 Mr. Kean? Liverpool? Tottenham? Chelsea? Amazing to think how many fans used to criticise every little thing Allardyce said wrong in interviews, like giving himself credit for a good substitution. And yet this nonsense from Kean and Venkys down on the funny farm is applauded as being ambitious. Well at least we're giving the press a good laugh.

[RibbleValleyRover]

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/5505/5/exclusive-kean-blackburn-targeting-european-place

This shisha problem in Blackburn must be worse than I thought. Who exactly are we gonna finish above next season to make top 6 Mr. Kean? Liverpool? Tottenham? Chelsea? Amazing to think how many fans used to criticise every little thing Allardyce said wrong in interviews, like giving himself credit for a good substitution. And yet this nonsense from Kean and Venkys down on the funny farm is applauded as being ambitious. Well at least we're giving the press a good laugh.

It might be better if we focused on cementing ourselves as a top 10/top half side first. We haven't done that yet so to talk about pushing for Europe might be a tad out of our reach at this moment in time.

[AHoyle90]

Us challenging for a top 6 spot 12 months from now is laughable. I'm all for being ambitious but that a ridiculous claim!

Unless we sign Kaka and Robinho

[greco]

right now his league stats are much closer to that of a team, thats going to be relegated, then it is to one, challenging for europe. Had it been the other way around, i could have understood his european ambitions for next season.

for us, to break into europe, would realistically take alot more then one season. Oh i forgot, we just need a bit of investment and some youths coming through, but i guess that stevie wonder forgot, that the rest of the league will follow a similar path.

just look at the squads from 1-6, does he not grasp reality and how much money those team will outspend us with, season after season..?

eventhouhj its an impossible "mathematical question to answer, it would be seriously interesting to know, how much money it would take to break into the top 6, for a club of our size or slightly bigger.

[47er]

We all know by now that he can talk a good game, so lets hope for his sake and ours that he gets a result at Villa otherwise his words will seem very empty.

No-----he'll find the positives!

[DE.]

The manager is just reading from the script.

He knows as well as the rest of us that without significant investment we'll do well to finish top 15, let alone top 6. I don't think Venky's have anywhere near the spending power required to make top 6 a realistic target.

[chris]

Us challenging for a top 6 spot 12 months from now is laughable. I'm all for being ambitious but that a ridiculous claim!

Unless we sign Kaka and Robinho

we are 11th, next season you don't see us competing with Bolton, Sunderland, Newcastle and Stoke who are above us .

I can;t really knock Kean for that coment.

[Ricky]

Sunderland have bigger gates, can pay higher wages and have 20m plus from the sale of bent.

Newcastle have £35m burning a hole in their pockets. Also pay high wages.

Stoke have a wealthy owner who has never been afraid to invest in the team.

So in all honesty if you think our £5m including wages to spend will compete with those 3 I think you're wrong. I would expect all of them to finish above us next season. No reason why we can't finish above Bolton though.

[chris]

Sunderland have bigger gates, can pay higher wages and have 20m plus from the sale of bent.

Newcastle have £35m burning a hole in their pockets. Also pay high wages.

Stoke have a wealthy owner who has never been afraid to invest in the team.

So in all honesty if you think our £5m including wages to spend will compete with those 3 I think you're wrong. I would expect all of them to finish above us next season. No reason why we can't finish above Bolton though.

Since when has Newcastle spending money in the last 10 year bought them success? it did get them Championship football.

Sunderland are yoyo within the league, with 20 illion to spend because they sold one of the all time top pl goal scorers, how did we do with the 15 million we got for Shearer? answer 13th and we still had great players.

Anyway the point is not will we finish 6th the point is Kean is "aiming" for 6th which is a realistic objective for next season.

and its not 5 million, currently is 5 million every window without sales, so that 10 million over a season each year.

Newcastle and Sunderland sold their stars.

[Ricky]

Chris, I wasn't arguing with the point of aiming for 6th, just that to me it's a big ask.

I'd take staying up and I'd be happy with mid table. Rookie manager in a hard league doesn't always bode well.

I like Kean and would like him to do well. Time will tell if he has the tactical nouse required. I've been a bit confused by some of his decisions so far. Hopefully he's learning the ropes and we'll push on to better things. Time will tell.

[chris]

Chris, I wasn't arguing with the point of aiming for 6th, just that to me it's a big ask.

I'd take staying up and I'd be happy with mid table. Rookie manager in a hard league doesn't always bode well.

I like Kean and would like him to do well. Time will tell if he has the tactical nouse required. I've been a bit confused by some of his decisions so far. Hopefully he's learning the ropes and we'll push on to better things. Time will tell.

to be clear I was just agruing Kean's comment, I agree with you about Kean I have no confidence in him (yet), I'm hoping he doesn't get us relegated next season let alone try and get us 6th.

[Kelbo]

One of the things both Hughes and Allardyce had in common was for Rovers improve on the previous years points total/league position, I do believe that is a logical and proper objective for a club our size, Hughes went when he felt, with the finances Rovers had, couldnt do that.

I do think that most of the problems Kean has have been created by Venkys and probably by Kean himself saying that sixth place is possible, anythings possible but highly unlikely looking at the quality and finances of the top six teams, I really believe that the best we can hope for is around 10th to 12th place and I dont think we will be able to achieve that this year unless we start to go on a decent run, this is not knocking Kean, just being totally realistic.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Chris, I wasn't arguing with the point of aiming for 6th, just that to me it's a big ask.

I'd take staying up and I'd be happy with mid table. Rookie manager in a hard league doesn't always bode well.

I like Kean and would like him to do well. Time will tell if he has the tactical nouse required. I've been a bit confused by some of his decisions so far. Hopefully he's learning the ropes and we'll push on to better things. Time will tell.

I agree with your sentiment - but am amazed at the number of people knocking the Venky's and Kean for showing some ambition - when previously all people moaned about was the Trust's lack of ambition. The fact is we spent more in the last transfer window than we have for a long time - especially when you take into account the cost of the Santa and Jones loan deals (and the new contracts given out to secure several important players) - and didn't sell Jones/Samba etc etc in the process. Like many I worry about where the money is coming from - and their hap-hazard PR - but we were never going to get another Jack - and to be honest with the new rules coming in the Venky approach (trying to build us up as a business) whether flawed in its approach or not - is the only way forward.

I look forward to the next three games with a mixture of excitement and trepidation - after a couple of weeks to drill the troops, we will found out whether Kean can manage as well as he can talk.

[Tom]

I too just wish we'd focus on just being in the league next season than talk about being a top 6 team in it. Out next two games are tough and it's quite likely we will lose both and then Blackpool really does become must win.

[chaddyrovers]

I don't mind the owners and Kean being Ambition and nothing wrong with that. But we need players who wanted to play for rovers and NOT just a marketing tool for venky's. By the sounds of it, they want to follow Arsene Wenger Arsenal model of being in up good up and coming players and developing them into very good players. With some experience players additions aswell. I like that model and think it a good one.

My problem is that we have got a good coach with experience but he's got no Manager experience and dealings with transfers. I can't see the owners getting rid of Kean in the near future, so just have to hope that He works out as manager. I hope he does for the sake of rovers and the fans.

I would prefer an experience manager in charge at rovers in doubt. Personally somebody who has experience of PL either has a manager or has player and has european experience aswell. But we haven't, so think it's time to move on and support rovers and the manager we got.

[chris]

I don't mind the owners and Kean being Ambition and nothing wrong with that. But we need players who wanted to play for rovers and NOT just a marketing tool for venky's. By the sounds of it, they want to follow Arsene Wenger Arsenal model of being in up good up and coming players and developing them into very good players. With some experience players additions aswell. I like that model and think it a good one.

My problem is that we have got a good coach with experience but he's got no Manager experience and dealings with transfers. I can't see the owners getting rid of Kean in the near future, so just have to hope that He works out as manager. I hope he does for the sake of rovers and the fans.

I would prefer an experience manager in charge at rovers in doubt. Personally somebody who has experience of PL either has a manager or has player and has european experience aswell. But we haven't, so think it's time to move on and support rovers and the manager we got.

That is the worry I have we Kean, we might have a Bryan Robson Boro situation where thre is a mismatch of players and no manager to handle the situation.

[47er]

I agree with your sentiment - but am amazed at the number of people knocking the Venky's and Kean for showing some ambition - when previously all people moaned about was the Trust's lack of ambition.

We used to moan about the Trust's lack of ambition, now we moan about Venkys saying ambitious stuff but not having the know-how or releasing the funds to achieve it. What's inconsistent about that?

[G Somerset Rover]

The problem is and sorry if somebody's already said it, who the heck would we finish above to get in the top 6? Outside the big four we'd never finish above Spurs and Man City without massive, massive, investment.

I like ambition, that's why I liked Hughes so much. But there's being realistic also. If hes going to set lofty expectations then say top 8 or so, because hes only going to have egg on his face.

[PAFELL]

The problem is and sorry if somebody's already said it, who the heck would we finish above to get in the top 6? Outside the big four we'd never finish above Spurs and Man City without massive, massive, investment.

I like ambition, that's why I liked Hughes so much. But there's being realistic also. If hes going to set lofty expectations then say top 8 or so, because hes only going to have egg on his face.

I would rather he sets a target to finish in the top 6 rather than 6 from the bottom. The target maybe unrealistic, but no harm aiming for it.

How many said Blackpool would not stand a chance in the prem this year - every pundit. Yet look how well they have done. Their target was just, "lets have ago and see what happens, we may stay up, we may go down, but lets have ago". This has worked fine for them. Also entertaining wise, have they been involved in a bad game this season? Their attitude has won fans over up and down the country.

Rovers have to have a simular attitude, by aiming higher than people expect them to get. May not get 6th spot, but what the hell, go for it.

We as supporters should just try to support them and try to give them the belief that they can get into the top 6.

[bubblerrovers]

If as I fear we go on a losing run into the relegation zone does anyone think venkys would sack Kean? Or is he untouchable till the summer

[BRFC1995]

If as I fear we go on a losing run into the relegation zone does anyone think venkys would sack Kean? Or is he untouchable till the summer

I guess he has no say on transfers as it is, they'd get someone with a clue to do the selections in the background as well and leave him manager by name alone to save them losing face and lokking like they made the dumbest move in decades by sacking sam for no good reason.

Could end up with one of those embarrassing scenarios where bryan robson loses the plot at boro but they leave him as manager and bring venables in to try and steady the ship.....how did anyone think that was ever going to work.

[Darwen Rover]

sorry guys this reminds me of Paul Ince all over again.. we need an experienced head in ASAP!!!

[BangkokRover]

Taxi for Kean

Shocking performance in the first half and then too slow on the subs.

3-0 65 mins gone and game over.