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I also got him at 50/1

People have heard that there was a Venkys meeting today regarding the management. I'm not going to confirm that either way but that news has affected the market without a doubt.

chaddyrovers World Cup

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Today will hill brought down the odds of him being sacked next from 50/1 to 12/1 make u think they've heard something??

I had a bet 3 hours ago and got 25/1 on paddy power, so I put a fiver on it. make up for we waste my money on awat days to wigan and villa

Billy Castell Champions League

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I also got him at 50/1

People have heard that there was a Venkys meeting today regarding the management. I'm not going to confirm that either way but that news has affected the market without a doubt.

So rumours of a meeting affect the market. Interesting. Whilst I will not ask you for confirmation either way, it shows how betting and the stock market can be lead by speculation, and how market capitalism can be undermined. Anyhow, it is intruiging that there are even rumours of such a meeting after the public backing Kean has had from Venky's.

Perhaps sightings of a fat dwarf around Brockhall will start up again, and won't be down to too much absinth......

JAL World Cup

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I also got him at 50/1

People have heard that there was a Venkys meeting today regarding the management. I'm not going to confirm that either way but that news has affected the market without a doubt.

Just what do they know about English football ?

:lol: :lol: :lol::D

chaddyrovers World Cup

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So rumours of a meeting affect the market. Interesting. Whilst I will not ask you for confirmation either way, it shows how betting and the stock market can be lead by speculation, and how market capitalism can be undermined. Anyhow, it is intruiging that there are even rumours of such a meeting after the public backing Kean has had from Venky's.

Perhaps sightings of a fat dwarf around Brockhall will start up again, and won't be down to too much absinth......

who's the fat dwarf???

sambo Champions League

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Everything that is happening today is exactly the same as when Sam was fired.

Same outcome? Only time will tell.

Yeah, best odds now are 12/1 with William Hill. My Brother has put a tenner on, so a fiver each. Not a bad return, and not overly bad odds.

Currently shortening everywhere though at the minute.

Tyrone Shoelaces

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Anderson advised against the sacking "at that particular time".

Listen. Some things we know:

Venky's were asked numerous times, before the sale went through, about Sam Allardyce's future. They simply wouldn't confirm that his job was safe.

We are now told that JA was hired by the Trustees to find the club a buyer.

JA was involved in the selling process as an advisor to Venky's.

Before the sale went through, Mrs D was quoted a few times saying that the club could reach 5th place in the prem with an investment of around £5m, bringing in a few kids and a few loanees. Remind me again, how much did Mrs D know about BRFC and the Barclays Premier league at that time? where/who did she get that idea from?

Sam was sacked after 3 weeks. Mrs D said it had always been their intention to sack him, but they thought "what the hell, why wait?". Would it be fair to think that decision had been made before the sale went through? What did she know about the Allardyce way of playing football - and if the answer is "nothing", then who told her?

Steve Kean was appointed manager. What did Mrs D know about Steve Kean and his abilities as a Premier league manager? If the answer is nothing, then who told her that he was the right man?

Could all this point to the following scenario? JA/Kentaro or someone sold the club to Venky's, by showing them a model that says that they can get rovers into the top five clubs with nothing more than a small transfer budget, a few kids and a few loanees. In other words, very little actual investment. Could it be that JA advised that his agency could bring in the necessary players for Venky's and that the SA sacking was necessary to allow this? Could Venky's then have been lead to believe that with this minimal investment, they could push the club into India where they could expand and profit?

It's patently obvious in my mind what's happened here, but if someone can point out a flaw in my thinking, then I'll listen.

Interesting scenario Den, only a complete idiot would think it had the slightest chance of coming true.

Tyrone Shoelaces

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Why? What has he written that is so outlandish?

Do you think Rovers could have gotten a top five place with nothing more than a " small transfer budget " ? We're doing our best to prove the complete opposite at present. There are plenty of teams out there that have spent a fortune won't do it this year, why should Rovers have any chance of bucking the trend.

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Of course I blinking don't. But that's completely missing the point. That scenario that Den just conjured up is an imagination of Venky's being sold Blackburn Rovers on a false premise, and falling for it, through a combination of hubris, ignorance and an appalling lack of independent research.

T4E World Cup

T4E

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Wouldn't sacking Kean mean having to pay up a long term contract, a portion of which would probably go to Kentaro?

Doesn't seem too unlikely.

Tyrone Shoelaces

Tyrone Shoelaces

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Of course I blinking don't. But that's completely missing the point. That scenario that Den just conjured up is an imagination of Venky's being sold Blackburn Rovers on a false premise, and falling for it, through a combination of hubris, ignorance and an appalling lack of independent research.

I know that! Let me spell it out for you- Venkie's would have to be complete idiots to believe the scenario that Den is conjuring up. At the moment it looks like in football terms they are !

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Like previously said, a single bet on Kean being the next manager to leave will see a hige shift in his odds with the bookmakers.

I fully expect Blackburn to give him time, and will be very surprised if he were the next manager to leave.

John World Cup

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Think whilst things are not looking good currently sacking the manager should be the absolute last resort. Don't think things are that bad to justify changing manager's at this stage.

This comment will probably get hammered, but being fair, Kean has not had long enough yet to put his own stamp on the team/club.

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Think whilst things are not looking good currently sacking the manager should be the absolute last resort. Don't think things are that bad to justify changing manager's at this stage.

This comment will probably get hammered, but being fair, Kean has not had long enough yet to put his own stamp on the team/club.

I agree with you - but only just. I expected us to get beat at the weekend - but expected us to put up a more committed performance. In my eyes he has another two matches to save his job - if I was Venky's I would already be making discreet enquiries to check the squad are still behind him.

What worries me - previously he was committed to an attacking style - but seems to have reverted to a more defensive approach. Though I think we were a little gung-ho - I am worried that this may demonstrate indecisiveness on his part. The alternative is that he is willing to learn from his mistakes - only time will tell.

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martonrover

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Think whilst things are not looking good currently sacking the manager should be the absolute last resort. Don't think things are that bad to justify changing manager's at this stage.

This comment will probably get hammered, but being fair, Kean has not had long enough yet to put his own stamp on the team/club.

The problem is that this is Feb/March not Oct/Nov and there is no margin of error at this stage of the season.

It's now a gamble either way but if they're going to twist they have to act soon.

John World Cup

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What worries me - previously he was committed to an attacking style - but seems to have reverted to a more defensive approach. Though I think we were a little gung-ho - I am worried that this may demonstrate indecisiveness on his part. The alternative is that he is willing to learn from his mistakes - only time will tell.

I think you are right - a few week's ago, Kean was saying the way we are going to play now we are always going to concede goals (in the expectation we will outscore the oppoistion).

Andy Champions League

Andy

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Had a cheeky fiver on at 50/1 last night - unbelievably good odds when you consider everything.

From a footballing perspective, the sooner we get any kind of experienced head in, the better.

sambo Champions League

sambo

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I think you are right - a few week's ago, Kean was saying the way we are going to play now we are always going to concede goals (in the expectation we will outscore the oppoistion).

Surely he should have noticed the lack of creative spark in our midfield and adopted a more neutral approach?

He seems confused and not up to scratch.

Nothing wrong with a bit of inconsistency. Can't chop and change every week

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