BRFCS Content Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 After Rovers' disappointing 2-0 defeat against Stoke at Ewood Park, manager Steve Kean has revealed that Chris Samba has been stripped of the captaincy: "Christopher would have played but he wouldn't have been captain because he's looking to get away," Kean confirmed. "Until he says he is happy to stay, we'll look elsewhere in the club." Samba had said last week that he was looking to move away from Rovers after the shock sacking of Sam Allardyce. Steve Kean revealed on Thursday that Samba had been looking to move away from Rovers for the last year.
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RibbleValleyRover Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 It was expected surely? As a captain you can't come out with the comments Chris did about wanting away. Whether it is a good decision or not will depend on how much influence Chris has with the rest of the players and the respect his successor commands. My money is on Nelsen being given the armband.
owenrilla Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 Samba Stripped of Captaincy What is the point of the circular link?
BRFCS Content Posted December 26, 2010 Author Posted December 26, 2010 What is the point of the circular link? Thanks for spotting that, link now corrected: Samba Stripped of Captaincy
sam_rovers Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 I feel Sambas comments were wrong but I feel Kean hasn't handled the situation well. First, he came out and said that Samba had been angling for a move for a year, doesn't strike me as a way to convince a player to stay or a way to negotiate with a player. Now he's stripped him of the captaincy, if his performances on the pitch weren't being affected I don't see the need to take away the armband. Now he has even more of a reason to ask for a move, and whether we like it or not he is the best central defender at our club.
Hughesy Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 Sat in the box behind N02 today....no point being Captain/ Leader if your not interested in being here.
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 I wonder if player morale is lower than a snakes arse now after that?.....better still,did Keane or Venkys really make the decision!
thebigguy Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 Players morale will be at the ultimate low not just that but if you speak out at any point you will be made accountable even if its the decent thing to do. And to simon I actually think none of them made the call, I think it was kentro
philipl Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 The LT report at least hints at a way back without bridges being burnt. I think we desperately need big Chris for the relegation battle ahead.
Drunx2002 Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 Regardless of the player's standing in the club, if you come out in the press stating that you want to leave you should be stripped of the captaincy. What sort of message does it send out to the rest of the team if the captain wants out and publicly slates the new owners for sacking Allardyce? There is nothing to be gained by saying what he did other than to undermine the new manager and unsettle the squad. Regardless of Samba saying what many of us were thinking at the time, he should have kept his mouth shut. Losing the captaincy was a formality when he opened his gob.
Miker Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 What sort of message does it send out to the rest of the team if the captain wants out and publicly slates the new owners for sacking Allardyce? There is nothing to be gained by saying what he did other than to undermine the new manager and unsettle the squad. Regardless of Samba saying what many of us were thinking at the time, he should have kept his mouth shut. Losing the captaincy was a formality when he opened his gob. Honestly, why would it matter if he said it publically or not? If he's the team captain, then surely he has spoken of his frustrations to the players in private anyway and surely they have all already discussed it. The only thing Samba's speaking to the press achieved was to confirm what the majority of the fans thought and sympathise with the situation. Does anyone remember any of the players looking at all happy or even give a smile while on the pitch? This is turning into an utter shambles.
den Posted December 27, 2010 Posted December 27, 2010 Kean needs every player behind him. This is entirely the wrong way to go about things. Reminds me of Jim Iley.
RibbleValleyRover Posted December 27, 2010 Posted December 27, 2010 Kean needs every player behind him. This is entirely the wrong way to go about things. Would you be still saying that if Sam was still in charge and there wasn't any disharmony behind the scenes? Samba is the captain of the team, the leader on the pitch and he comes out with comments about wanting to leave. What example does that show to the rest of the players (especially the younger players) that your captain, your leader on the pitch wants out? I find it hilarious that fans seem to be justifying in some way Samba's disgraceful behaviour because of what is happening in the background. If Samba wants out then there is a quiet and professional way of doing that when the transfer window is open instead of moaning and ranting to the media.
den Posted December 27, 2010 Posted December 27, 2010 Would you be still saying that if Sam was still in charge and there wasn't any disharmony behind the scenes? Samba is the captain of the team, the leader on the pitch and he comes out with comments about wanting to leave. What example does that show to the rest of the players (especially the younger players) that your captain, your leader on the pitch wants out? I find it hilarious that fans seem to be justifying in some way Samba's disgraceful behaviour because of what is happening in the background. If Samba wants out then there is a quiet and professional way of doing that when the transfer window is open instead of moaning and ranting to the media. I don't see what he said as being disgraceful. Either way, it's to everyone's benefit to smooth things out and get Samba back onside. We need him. The "get shut of Samba" calls, reflect the "get shut of Allardyce" calls. Plain stupid and not in the interests of Steve Kean or Blackburn Rovers.
modes98 Posted December 27, 2010 Posted December 27, 2010 Sat in the box behind N02 today....no point being Captain/ Leader if your not interested in being here. He hasn't handed in a transfer request and said he has to leave. All that ha been said is he is extremely concerned about the sacking of Sam and the potential future of the club if that trend is to continue and if assurances couldn't be given he would have to look to leave. If you would rather he didn't say what the rest of the footballing world is thinking then so be it.
Miker Posted December 27, 2010 Posted December 27, 2010 I find it hilarious that fans seem to be justifying in some way Samba's disgraceful behaviour because of what is happening in the background. If Samba wants out then there is a quiet and professional way of doing that when the transfer window is open instead of moaning and ranting to the media. I find it hilarious that grown men are reacting like babies because Samba suddenly wants to leave the club. A captain SHOULD voice his concerns in private and in public and demand improvement if he sees things are going wrong. What our management shouldn't do is ignore those concerns, those very real concerns, and tell him he can (Please don't use that word again) off if he wants to, as long as we get some nice $$$$ for him.
Bobby G Posted December 27, 2010 Posted December 27, 2010 I find it hilarious that grown men are reacting like babies because Samba suddenly wants to leave the club. A captain SHOULD voice his concerns in private and in public and demand improvement if he sees things are going wrong. What our management shouldn't do is ignore those concerns, those very real concerns, and tell him he can (Please don't use that word again) off if he wants to, as long as we get some nice $$$$ for him. Spot on.
BRFCS Content Posted December 27, 2010 Author Posted December 27, 2010 Moved the posts on this latest news to its own topic and included the news item in the top post to make it easier to follow for those new to the topic. (Thanks to owenrilla for pointing out the original error regarding the bad link.)
cruz Posted December 28, 2010 Posted December 28, 2010 because Samba suddenly wants to leave the club. One year is suddenly?
Hughesy Posted December 28, 2010 Posted December 28, 2010 Samba doesnt want to hand a transfer request in afterall Good news Robbo has also said he's committed long term And we now have a manager who seems to be happy to attack teams & go for the kill. Just perhaps it isnt all doom & gloom....perhaps what Venkys have planned really is something to look forward to?? Hears hoping!!
Miker Posted December 28, 2010 Posted December 28, 2010 The criticism handed to Samba for saying he would consider leaving if things didn't improve was unfair in my opinion. There was obviously some discontent among players AND fans following the sacking, but that's because of the absolutely comical way it was handled by Venky's both privately and through the media. Anyway, the whole thing with Samba was blown out of proportion by misleading article headings and fans on here.
Hughesy Posted December 28, 2010 Posted December 28, 2010 Just thought it might help to have abit more of a positive thread eh! A 3-1 away win, senior players saying they are happy etc!!
Miker Posted December 28, 2010 Posted December 28, 2010 It definitely feels a lot more positive right now. I would've been a sad panda if Samba left
philipl Posted December 28, 2010 Posted December 28, 2010 Fantastic news that Samba is staying. He is absolutely critical to our future. Nicko's post suggesting a club could be coming in for Samba could be a Kentaro heads up that they are moving him out to generate more funds for their players to come in but that would be too cynical to post something like that.
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