[Archived] New Assistant manager

[Bobby G]

Poor PR again. Why mention dates ahead of time?

[yeti-dog]

  On 10/01/2011 at 18:26, Mercerman said:

This aint good.

Seems like we can't even secure an assistant manager now.

Steve Keane needs to think carefully about future announcements following his proclamations last week about 2 new signings before the QPR match and a new assistant today.

This is all becoming very, very embarassing!

You really are a glass half-empty chap aren't you...

[Mercer]

  On 10/01/2011 at 19:06, yeti-dog said:

You really are a glass half-empty chap aren't you...

Not at all Yeti-Dog, you got me wrong - can't afford to be in my line of work. However, at the moment, there's not even a trickle into the glass to dampen the thirst!

[Valois]

  On 10/01/2011 at 19:03, Inta Beaver said:

Venkys and Rovers here is a little tip on marketing, always over deliver rather than under deliver! ie don't promise something you can't deliver! Don't tell us players will be signing before the QPR game, don't tell us a assistant manager will be appointed on Monday! Just get on with your jobs!

You are giving the fans false hope!

The key points you have missed are these,in regards to the assistant Kean quoted - the appointment of an assistant manager will "ALMOST definitely happen" on Monday. Almost been the key word, and the fact that Monday is not yeat over.

In regards to the players, Kean again said he had hoped to have 2 players in before the QPR game. Again the key word been HOPED.

No promises were ever made about players or the assistant, so how are they giving anyone false hope? Kean is not dealing with the transfers, it's JW, so he would only be able to go off what he has been told.

[nicko]

  On 10/01/2011 at 18:26, Mercerman said:

This aint good.

Seems like we can't even secure an assistant manager now.

Steve Keane needs to think carefully about future announcements following his proclamations last week about 2 new signings before the QPR match and a new assistant today.

This is all becoming very, very embarassing!

Do you just go around moping all of the time?

There is an obvious reason why the announcement will be timed.

But keep chasing your tail like a slethering dog while you are working it out...

  On 10/01/2011 at 19:04, Bobby G said:

Poor PR again. Why mention dates ahead of time?

Here's another one.

If the manager says he is trying to do things it will be because he is trying to do things.

Work the assistant manager thing out. It's not too hard.

[Valois]

  On 10/01/2011 at 19:26, nicko said:

Do you just go around moping all of the time?

There is an obvious reason why the announcement will be timed.

But keep chasing your tail like a slethering dog while you are working it out...

Here's another one.

If the manager says he is trying to do things it will be because he is trying to do things.

Work the assistant manager thing out. It's not too hard.

Brilliantly said Nicko, i'm assuming by that we are set to unvail a signing, therefore will announce the 2 at the same press conference. 2 for the price of one??

[Fife Rover]

  On 10/01/2011 at 19:28, Valois said:

Brilliantly said Nicko, i'm assuming by that we are set to unvail a signing, therefore will announce the 2 at the same press conference. 2 for the price of one??

Or alternatively we are about to appoint Maradona as the Asst Mgr!!!

[cruz]

Kean 'HOPED' to have new signings by Monday and said he an assistant manager would 'ALMOST DEFINITELY' be announced on Monday.

However some think they were both firm timetables and have twisted their knickers around their head and made their face red

[LeChuck]

  On 10/01/2011 at 14:10, cruz said:

Do you mean a Kentaro link in reference to Jensen?

There isn't one because Jensen's appointment is just a rumour but all the knicker twisers lumped on it when somoene brought up the irrelevant rumour that he was a Kentaro client.......hence being media sheep and believing hook line and sinker everything the media has written (the guardian link for example)

I have no idea what is forming the basis of your point here.

It is not a 'rumour' that Jensen is a Kentaro client, he appears on SEM's website. As far as I'm aware the media haven't written anything substantially negative about Kentaro in relation to ourselves.

As for that Guardian piece, it was very well balanced. Steve Kean gets a lot of praise, however they state that he won't be in charge of transfers or staff. Given that the only two vacancies at the club so far have been filled by Kentaro clients, that would seem to make sense.

It worries me. It would worry me if the media hadn't written a word about us, the Kentaro links are easy to find on your own.

[neophox]

Rovers will announce an assistant manager and a new signing

[Iceman]

agree, if you not 100% sure about something, then rather stand back and say nothing. looking rather stupid imo.

[Mercer]

  On 10/01/2011 at 19:26, nicko said:

Do you just go around moping all of the time?

Absolutely not!

Just find that following Rovers these days is a decent antidote to all the excitement in my job and life, makes sure my feet are firmly on the ground!

[Stuart]

  On 10/01/2011 at 19:26, nicko said:

Do you just go around moping all of the time?

There is an obvious reason why the announcement will be timed.

But keep chasing your tail like a slethering dog while you are working it out...

Here's another one.

If the manager says he is trying to do things it will be because he is trying to do things.

Work the assistant manager thing out. It's not too hard.

Double announcement?

Perhaps Mr Kean could just avoid giving out specific dates at the moment - particularly if there's a good chance of them falling through.

There is a big credibility issue with the new regime (in the eyes of the fans anyway). It may well all come together but until then you can't blame any reasonable-minded person for being skeptical.

[BuckyRover]

  On 10/01/2011 at 19:37, LeChuck said:

I have no idea what is forming the basis of your point here.

It is not a 'rumour' that Jensen is a Kentaro client, he appears on SEM's website. As far as I'm aware the media haven't written anything substantially negative about Kentaro in relation to ourselves.

As for that Guardian piece, it was very well balanced. Steve Kean gets a lot of praise, however they start that he won't be in charge of transfers or staff. Given that the only two vacancies at the club so far have been filled by Kentaro clients, that would seem to make sense.

It worries me. It would worry me if the media hadn't written a word about us, the Kentaro links are easy to find on your own.

It's almost like they are acting as our Damien Comolli

Fancy that

[LeChuck]

  On 10/01/2011 at 19:45, BuckyRover said:

It's almost like they are acting as our Damien Comolli

Fancy that

You've lost me.

I mean, I know who he is and what he does, I just don't get it.

[BuckyRover]

  On 10/01/2011 at 19:46, LeChuck said:

You've lost me.

I mean, I know who he is and what he does, I just don't get it.

He chooses players for Liverpool above the managers head based on his list of contacts across Europe and the world.

[den]

That's the reason for Liverpool's success then Bucky?

[BuckyRover]

  On 10/01/2011 at 19:55, den said:

That's the reason for Liverpool's success then Bucky?

He's only been there half a season.

Although Spurs can thank him for Berbatov, Modric and Bale amongst others. He also brought Kolo Toure to Arsenal.

Not bad eh?

[den]

  On 10/01/2011 at 20:01, BuckyRover said:

He's only been there half a season.

God help 'em then eh?

Can't see Dalglish accepting that.

[LeChuck]

  On 10/01/2011 at 19:52, BuckyRover said:

He chooses players for Liverpool above the managers head based on his list of contacts across Europe and the world.

Oh okay, I thought the 'fancy that' alluded to a joke that I wasn't getting.

The difference with Comolli is that he is acting solely in the best interest of the club, whereas Anderson/Kentaro are not. That's not to say they don't want to do right by the club (I'm sure they do), but they have a] conflicted interest, and b] a bias toward their own client(s).

I'd be more than happy with a proven director of football overseeing transfers above Kean, but I don't think the Kentaro relationship qualifies.

[hawkiiz]

  On 10/01/2011 at 19:26, nicko said:

Do you just go around moping all of the time?

There is an obvious reason why the announcement will be timed.

But keep chasing your tail like a slethering dog while you are working it out...

Here's another one.

If the manager says he is trying to do things it will be because he is trying to do things.

Work the assistant manager thing out. It's not too hard.

I guess we delayed the announcement by one day because Kenny D took all the press today. Who cares about a Rovers Assistant when Kenny is back at Liverpool? Their news is just too big.

[John]

Comolli obtained the nickname 'Trojan virus' whilst at Arsenal/Spurs - the constant arguments with managers, continuous conflict of interest - a lot of Spurs fans despise him.

He signed some good and poor players but the fundamental problem was his actual role.

[BuckyRover]

It's a different way of working. Im not saying it's perfect just highlighting that there are alternative ways of doing things without simply saying this is right and this is wrong.

I'm not going to sit here and say this SEM/Kentaro thing is not going to work, because it has never been tried before and I'm sure if if doesn't work changes will be made.

[bep]

  On 10/01/2011 at 20:12, BuckyRover said:

It's a different way of working. Im not saying it's perfect just highlighting that there are alternative ways of doing things without simply saying this is right and this is wrong.

I'm not going to sit here and say this SEM/Kentaro thing is not going to work, because it has never been tried before and I'm sure if if doesn't work changes will be made.

The only problem with SEM/Kentaro is it leaves John Williams in a redundant role with little to do.

[Balwer]

  On 10/01/2011 at 20:16, bep said:

The only problem with SEM/Kentaro is it leaves John Williams in a redundant role with little to do.

apart from actually running the club.