[Archived] Transfer Window Part 3

[Rover & Out]

  On 11/01/2011 at 15:48, Mr. E said:

Still, Venkys most certainly promised 2-3 "big" players. If not Ronaldinho himself, than others that were going to elevate the club. If they lied about that, I guess they lied about investing anything into the club - that is certainly the case so far.

My understanding was that Venkys had a long-term vision for the club, i.e. it's not going to happen overnight.

They may want to bring in 2-3 'big' players, but could you name any such players that are available in this market?

I don't know whether there was any real truth in the Ronaldinho story but I believe it was an example of opportunism on their behalf; they saw a player of that quality available for a comparatively small amount and they had a go at trying to get him.

I agree that there will come a point when we should question their motives but that point certainly isn't at the end of this transfer window.

We're not Man City, we're not going to buy three players in the hope that one of them will come good.

We need to bring in the right players at the right prices and that will take time.

[Guest Walshy]

  On 11/01/2011 at 15:55, Mr. E said:

...like who?

Santa Cruz, Collins, Adams....these are the "improvements"? I suppose Adams might be better than nothing, but if some player from Blackpool is all that we can hope for, we're not going anywhere.

Shearer was at Southampton when we spent a then record of 3.3 million. Doesnt matter what team they come from its the talent they have and carry onto the pitch and the impact they will have

[FourLaneBlue]

  On 11/01/2011 at 15:55, Mr. E said:

...like who?

Santa Cruz, Collins, Adams....these are the "improvements"?

Yes, they are all improvements to our squad.

[hawkiiz]

  On 11/01/2011 at 15:37, True Blue & White said:

My bad, they aint like Doncaster then, more like Watford. Point being if you haven't moved to the proper Barca team by 20 you'll probably never get there so no one should be that suprised if he joins us from "Barcelona".

How many more times...

LINK = http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Blackburn-manager-Steve-Kean-is-being-linked-with-moves-for-Ronaldinho-and-David-Beckham-but-claims-hes-more-concerned-with-building-a-solid-squad-worthy-of-the-Premier-Leagues-top-10-article663597.html

QUOTE = ""We are looking at bringing in around four players, which is a lot of business in comparison to other clubs," he added.

"We will be having a press conference (on Friday) ahead of the QPR game and at least getting one or two bodies in before then."

The word "hope" isn't used but that is niether here nor there as my original point of Kean raising expectations uneccessarily (like he's done again by making similar comments about the Chelsea game) still stands.

I did not call Kean a "liar" which you have said and not retracted yet, nor am I "upset" that we didn't sign anybody. All I want is for Kean to STFU about bringing people in until he's actuially done it...why is that so irrational or hard to understand?

I think you have me and Venky's mixed up there mate.

If it's not people falsely accusing me of saying others are liars, I'm now being called one! But like Hawkizz I doubt you'll come back with any proof or quotes where I have lied.

You seem to be disagreeing with a post from nicko that he actually wrote, so actually you are calling nicko a liar. Fine by me but at least level your accusation at him and not the messenger.

Look at Rovers tv and you will see that AFTER the QPR match he says he is hoping to bring players in this week.

This is BEFORE the QPR game.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/01/05/2291887/blackburn-rovers-interim-manager-steve-kean-praises-team?

"It's ongoing [pursuit of players] and hopefully we'll have some information before the weekend."

I wasn't able to find the video/sound clip to show you, but that's it.

Now I never meant to say anything about you personally, and I don't think I did. Happy?

[Mr. E]

  On 11/01/2011 at 15:57, Rover & Out said:

My understanding was that Venkys had a long-term vision for the club, i.e. it's not going to happen overnight.

They may want to bring in 2-3 'big' players, but could you name any such players that are available in this market?

I don't know whether there was any real truth in the Ronaldinho story but I believe it was an example of opportunism on their behalf; they saw a player of that quality available for a comparatively small amount and they had a go at trying to get him.

I agree that there will come a point when we should question their motives but that point certainly isn't at the end of this transfer window.

We're not Man City, we're not going to buy three players in the hope that one of them will come good.

We need to bring in the right players at the right prices and that will take time.

So basically the difference between not having a pot to ###### in, as was the case with the Walker trust, and Venkys, is that sometime, in the future, many transfer windows from now, if the right circumstances arise, we might get to buy a player.

[Valois]

Spurs with their Beckham publicity stunt still going on then, boring.

[BuckyRover]

  On 11/01/2011 at 16:01, Mr. E said:

So basically the difference between not having a pot to ###### in, as was the case with the Walker trust, and Venkys, is that sometime, in the future, many transfer windows from now, if the right circumstances arise, we might get to buy a player.

Which means we are in a better position.

(The debt is also being cleared, you failed to mention that minor point)

[S15]

  On 11/01/2011 at 16:01, Mr. E said:

So basically the difference between not having a pot to ###### in, as was the case with the Walker trust, and Venkys, is that sometime, in the future, many transfer windows from now, if the right circumstances arise, we might get to buy a player.

[Clitherover]

  On 11/01/2011 at 15:54, Fylde Coast Fan said:

http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sports-news/Holloway-has-talks-with-Adam.6686700.jp

"I want him to go to a much bigger and better club than us, and I want him to go to a strong club which is in a good position and not a weak position – and that isn't happening at the moment.

Right, so that's every team in the Premiership and the majority of the Championship.

[Rover & Out]

  On 11/01/2011 at 16:01, Mr. E said:

So basically the difference between not having a pot to ###### in, as was the case with the Walker trust, and Venkys, is that sometime, in the future, many transfer windows from now, if the right circumstances arise, we might get to buy a player.

Well there's no shame in a club with money, however much it may be, admitting defeat in not being able to find anybody suitable to bring in during a transfer window.

I'd love to see some new faces in the next couple of weeks, but not many of the ones that have been mentioned on here recently.

With the exception of Adam, I don't see any suitable and available targets in this window.

[Jackson]

  On 11/01/2011 at 15:54, Fylde Coast Fan said:

http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sports-news/Holloway-has-talks-with-Adam.6686700.jp

Salient quotes:

"The chairman has told me of two enquiries about Charlie. They have both been told very politely that unless it is an astronomical fee which takes the club forward we don't need to sell," said the boss.

"We are a well-run club and we have him for 18 months, so thank you very much. If you want him that much why didn't you buy him off Rangers?

"So of course I think he'll still be here come February 1. I see no reason why he won't be."

Holloway met with Adam, 25, after training yesterday to discuss the interest from other clubs.

The manager revealed: "I wrote down some teams I would definitely love him to go to. I asked him to fill out his own list. Maybe he has a few more he might consider, so I'll be interested to see that list," added the manager.

"But Charlie knows how far he has come with me. I told him what I wanted to do for him and it hasn't changed.

"I want him to go to a much bigger and better club than us, and I want him to go to a strong club which is in a good position and not a weak position – and that isn't happening at the moment.

"Charlie has known all along that I want him to benefit but until I get the right phonecall from the right type of people he is going to crack on with us and keep doing what he does for us."

Why do I get the feeling an honest list by CA would have at least 19 teams on it?

Why do I get the feeling that Holloway's list will be Chelsea, Man U., Tot. and City, knowing that they do not and will not ever want him. What a prat. Sounds like a desperate last gasp effort to retain.

[S15]

  On 11/01/2011 at 16:19, Jackson said:

Why do I get the feeling that Holloway's list will be Chelsea, Man U., Tot. and City, knowing that they do not and will not ever want him. What a prat. Sounds like a desperate last gasp effort to retain.

Who can blame him? If our players were being linked with Villa, Birmingham and Sunderland we'd want to hear the same thing.

[FourLaneBlue]

  On 11/01/2011 at 16:19, Jackson said:

Why do I get the feeling that Holloway's list will be Chelsea, Man U., Tot. and City, knowing that they do not and will not ever want him. What a prat. Sounds like a desperate last gasp effort to retain.

Why on earth should his list include Rovers?

He doesn't sound like a prat at all, of course he is trying to hold onto a good player.

[Jackson]

  On 11/01/2011 at 16:27, S15 said:

Who can blame him? If our players were being linked with Villa, Birmingham and Sunderland we'd want to hear the same thing.

We aren't Blackpool.

[True Blue & White]

  On 11/01/2011 at 16:27, S15 said:

Who can blame him? If our players were being linked with Villa, Birmingham and Sunderland we'd want to hear the same thing.

This.

Funny how our fans have become arrogant of all of a sudden. It annoys the hell out of me when people say "why would X want to join Blackburn?" so I'm not going to do the same to Blackpool.

[rovers_rob]

  On 11/01/2011 at 16:07, Rover & Out said:

Well there's no shame in a club with money, however much it may be, admitting defeat in not being able to find anybody suitable to bring in during a transfer window.

I'd love to see some new faces in the next couple of weeks, but not many of the ones that have been mentioned on here recently.

With the exception of Adam, I don't see any suitable and available targets in this window.

If we only signed Adam in this transfer window I would be happy.

[True Blue & White]

  On 11/01/2011 at 16:30, rovers_rob said:

If we only signed Adam in this transfer window I would be happy.

You're easily pleased then...

[Jackson]

  On 11/01/2011 at 16:29, FourLaneBlue said:

Why on earth should his list include Rovers?

He doesn't sound like a prat at all, of course he is trying to hold onto a good player.

Why on earth should he even be giving a parental list of approval to a free thinking adult.

[chris]

why would Blackpool seel him now, he might get a few goals to keep them up, and could still sell him in the summer for good value.

[FourLaneBlue]

  On 11/01/2011 at 16:29, Jackson said:

We aren't Blackpool.

No, and we aren't Sunderland or Villa either with the capability of getting a gate of 40,000 on.

We are who we are. However, why should any manager roll over and let us take their best players away from them?

  On 11/01/2011 at 16:31, Jackson said:

Why on earth should he even be giving a parental list of approval to a free thinking adult.

Because he reckons those clubs won't likely be in for Adam and he will get to keep his star midfielder.

Why are you annoyed at Holloway for doing his job?

I think Steve Kean should be taking this approach with Samba and saying that unless it is at least one of the Champions League contenders with an excellent offer, you ain't going nowhere.

[Rover & Out]

  On 11/01/2011 at 16:30, rovers_rob said:

If we only signed Adam in this transfer window I would be happy.

I'm with you on that.

Bringing Adam in would represent a good window for us, with a view to sorting our squad out properly in the summer.

[brigrover]

  On 11/01/2011 at 15:55, Mr. E said:

...like who?

Santa Cruz, Collins, Adams....these are the "improvements"? I suppose Adams might be better than nothing, but if some player from Blackpool is all that we can hope for, we're not going anywhere.

Adam is a definate improvement on our current centre midfield and personally think he is a very good player.

I know Dunn is a BRFC lad and has put in some great performance over the years, but I would have Adam in the team ahead of him without a doubt. I've picked Dunn out really because he is of a similar mould.

[Jackson]

  On 11/01/2011 at 16:34, FourLaneBlue said:

Because he reckons those clubs won't likely be in for Adam and he will get to keep his star midfielder.

Why are you annoyed at Holloway for doing his job?

I guess I'm annoyed because it's a tad transparent. Drawing up imaginary an unobtainable lists with the kiddies just strikes me as a little retardish.

I'd just slap a 10m price tag on the lad and avoid all this BS.

[brigrover]

  On 11/01/2011 at 16:36, Rover & Out said:

I'm with you on that.

Bringing Adam in would represent a good window for us, with a view to sorting our squad out properly in the summer.

me too

by the way can we keep the transfer chat down in here, this is where people argue about the integrity of our owners

[bellamy11]

  On 11/01/2011 at 16:01, Mr. E said:

So basically the difference between not having a pot to ###### in, as was the case with the Walker trust, and Venkys, is that sometime, in the future, many transfer windows from now, if the right circumstances arise, we might get to buy a player.

Didn't you agree not to whinge about anything ever again if we didn't sign Heskey?