[Archived] Transfer Window Part 5

[Mercer]

Our squad, when all fit, is too top heavy putting enormous strain on our wage bill.

IMO, we need to lose a keeper (Brown), at least two midfielders when we have Emerton, Hoilett, EH Diouf, Olsson, Jones, Dunn, Grella, Andrews, Nzonzi & Pedersen (no guesses needed for which two) and at least one striker when we have RSC, Niko, M Diouf, Roberts & Benjani.

Also, going forward, we can't afford to pay wages of £70 to 90K a week on permanent contracts. If RSC wants to come here, play permanent footie, he needs to accept that he can't get that level of dosh.

[47er]

From what I hear Formica is going to Monaco...something of a disappointment.

It's a good job Steve Kean is proving to be such a good manager.

Because the signings front is proving mixed to say the least.

Very disturbing this. Formica is clearly a player Kean likes and expected to sign. And, if his assessment is correct, then he is the playmaker we needed. Years of football in him too, decent performances and his value would rocket.

So why hasn't it happened? We are told its got "complicated". The only complication I can see is that we wanted the transfer to go through a third party, namely Red Star Belgrade. Now what the hell is that about? A means of avoiding paying? Why? When asked how much money was available from the owners, the answer was "whatever it takes'. Meanwhile Monaco are happy to simply hand over the 3.5M fee sought and it seems they have got him.

The Venkettes on here can rationalise anyway they like but I find this very disturbing. Is there no money for transfer deals at all? Once again the the actions nowhere near match the hype.

A good performance today will probably mask all this but the questions remain.

[braddock]

I would be against selling Andrews.

[Steve Moss]

Please don't tell me your another one?

Do you, deep down, honestly, believe that is even slightly viable? From Venkys perspective? The clubs perspective? The players perspective?

Anybody else noticed Nicko hasn't done an 11 o'clocker in a while? I knew Kamy stealing his lime light doing his own 11 o clockers was a bad idea!

I'm certain the club could not finance Saurez. The issue is whether Venkys, specifically Balaji, can and is willing to do so. I have my doubts. If they could, why are they going for Riquelme and not Saurez? One makes far more sense than the other.

As to whether it is possible from the club's perspective or the player's perspective depends entirely on the amount of money on offer. Cash trumps 'unfashionable' every time.

Our squad, when all fit, is too top heavy putting enormous strain on our wage bill.

IMO, we need to lose a keeper (Brown), at least two midfielders when we have Emerton, Hoilett, EH Diouf, Olsson, Jones, Dunn, Grella, Andrews, Nzonzi & Pedersen (no guesses needed for which two) and at least one striker when we have RSC, Niko, M Diouf, Roberts & Benjani.

Also, going forward, we can't afford to pay wages of £70 to 90K a week on permanent contracts. If RSC wants to come here, play permanent footie, he needs to accept that he can't get that level of dosh.

This I agree with. Venkys could balance the books by paying a nice chunk for our shirt sponsorship, though. We'll see in a few months.

[blue and whites]

i've said it before. this guy would be a great signing!

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/adel-taarabt-performance-coventry-8267752/

[braddock]

i've said it before. this guy would be a great signing!

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/adel-taarabt-performance-coventry-8267752/

Please no.

[Silencio]

Very disturbing this. Formica is clearly a player Kean likes and expected to sign. And, if his assessment is correct, then he is the playmaker we needed. Years of football in him too, decent performances and his value would rocket.

So why hasn't it happened? We are told its got "complicated". The only complication I can see is that we wanted the transfer to go through a third party, namely Red Star Belgrade. Now what the hell is that about? A means of avoiding paying? Why? When asked how much money was available from the owners, the answer was "whatever it takes'. Meanwhile Monaco are happy to simply hand over the 3.5M fee sought and it seems they have got him.

The Venkettes on here can rationalise anyway they like but I find this very disturbing. Is there no money for transfer deals at all? Once again the the actions nowhere near match the hype.

A good performance today will probably mask all this but the questions remain.

Couldn't have put my thoughts down better. If the guy is a player and Kean wants him then why have we not made a real bid?

Only a club that had an agent involved in running transfers would be recommending the Red Star Belgrade scenario. What is John Williams' role now?

Forget PR interviews in the Daily Mail, Venky's have still got questions to answer...

[Fraserkirky]

Please no.

why?

Looks bloody class to me

[Steve Moss]

why?

Looks bloody class to me

Agreed. He looks like the type of midfielder we need. But will QPR sell him? He's good and they're likely to be in the PL next season. They'll need players of this caliber to stay there. And its not like they are hurting for cash. Maybe our respective Indian owners know each other and can cut a deal?

For those interested, here's his wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adel_Taarabt

[cn174]

But will QPR sell him?

Not bloody likely to us now we're on Warnock's bad list!!

I don't think they need to sell him at all. If they do get promoted he'll get a shot at the PL anyway, if they do not he may move in summer.

[Steve Moss]

Not bloody likely to us now we're on Warnock's bad list!!

But they owe us for the screaming deal we gave them for Chimbonda. And we could toss in Roberts as well.

And take it for what it is worth, but Sunderland is rumored to be making a 2.5 million move for Michael Bradley. http://www.footballtransfertavern.com/category/transfer-rumours. Assuming that there is the slightest truth to that rumor, we should be all over it.

[SamTheShrew]

Very disturbing this. Formica is clearly a player Kean likes and expected to sign. And, if his assessment is correct, then he is the playmaker we needed. Years of football in him too, decent performances and his value would rocket.

So why hasn't it happened? We are told its got "complicated". The only complication I can see is that we wanted the transfer to go through a third party, namely Red Star Belgrade. Now what the hell is that about? A means of avoiding paying? Why? When asked how much money was available from the owners, the answer was "whatever it takes'. Meanwhile Monaco are happy to simply hand over the 3.5M fee sought and it seems they have got him.

The Venkettes on here can rationalise anyway they like but I find this very disturbing. Is there no money for transfer deals at all? Once again the the actions nowhere near match the hype.

A good performance today will probably mask all this but the questions remain.

This is what I was alluding to yesterday.

I find it incredibly frustrating that we talk about being close to signing a player when in reality we seem anything but, and perhaps haven't even bid.

I hope Kean is not being misled also

[neophox]

If we want a marquee signing from South America, we should look at Napoli players Edinson Cavani or Enrique Lavezzi. They are pure class. And under 30 years of age.

[PAFELL]

Very disturbing this. Formica is clearly a player Kean likes and expected to sign. And, if his assessment is correct, then he is the playmaker we needed. Years of football in him too, decent performances and his value would rocket.

So why hasn't it happened? We are told its got "complicated". The only complication I can see is that we wanted the transfer to go through a third party, namely Red Star Belgrade. Now what the hell is that about? A means of avoiding paying? Why? When asked how much money was available from the owners, the answer was "whatever it takes'. Meanwhile Monaco are happy to simply hand over the 3.5M fee sought and it seems they have got him.

The Venkettes on here can rationalise anyway they like but I find this very disturbing. Is there no money for transfer deals at all? Once again the the actions nowhere near match the hype.

A good performance today will probably mask all this but the questions remain.

Maybe the third party ownership of players rule, does not apply in other leagues, as it does in the prem. Nicko reported that there was complications. Maybe the situation was so complicated that if Rovers had gone ahead with the transfer - which due to thrid party ownership - would have caused Rovers to be santioned, points deducted by the prem etc. Maybe that is why they didn't pursue the Formica deal further. Yes may well be an ideal player what Rovers need, but at what cost. Until we know the details of what made the deal complicated, it is hard to make firm judgements.

[Roverite28]

If we want a marquee signing from South America, we should look at Napoli players Edinson Cavani or Enrique Lavezzi. They are pure class. And under 30 years of age.

Let me get the cheque book with the 30million written in...

Suarez, the lad can finish, no doubt. Has he got a all-round game? Not at all. Im always dubious whenever a player comes from the dutch league because for every 1 van nistelrooy there are 10 alfonso alves's.

Taarbt (or however you spell it) will get raped in the prem for pissing trying fancy things in positions he doesnt need to. He tried taking 2 people on just over the halfway line, lost it and coventry nearly scored. Still has a long way to go.

Id still like to see an attacking midfielder brought in, someone who can link up the play and get in goal scoring positions but after yesterdays game im chuffed with our business alreadly.

[Ferrit]

I watched this guy closely today and was not impressed. IMO, certainly not box to box and on this evidence, not a great range of passing skills; also, looked one pace and prone to the rash challenge - how the hell we got away with the penalty that wasn't, I'll never know.

Not as good as Nzonzi and I'm certain we could do better.

Is this a joke? I know that opinions are exactly that, opinions, but quite how someone can come up with that is beyond me.

[Torgeir]

Bati was a long distance shooter.. I can see the comparison there..

Batigol was a world class striker, with the ability to finish from outside the box. He was by no means an attacking midfielder/2nd striker though, that's why I thought the comparison was a bit silly.

Anyway, I don't think we can fault Kean for not signing anyone permanently yet. It's obvious that we have the same set of negotiators that we did before, who seem intent on not closing too many deals Is this a sign that we're skint? Not sure, but it's worrying that we window after window are unable to sign players early, ending up with an excuse as to why we'll wait until the next to sign anyone (don't want to panic buy etc.). It's either that or we make a half-hearted deadline day signing, which can't be a good thing either.

[AndyC]

Is this a joke? I know that opinions are exactly that, opinions, but quite how someone can come up with that is beyond me.

unfortunately, not everyone understands the game fella.

Facts are - we played a diamond formation where jones was clearly told to hold, breakup play and get it to the 4 danger players ( dunn, hoillet, santa or kalanic) as quickly as possible.

He did his job very well today.

[Taggart]

I would be against selling Andrews.

Me too, I would just simply give him away on a free.......................

[philipl]

It appears we only lost out on Formica because of this complicating factor of needing third party ownership.

It is very clear the player and his father and advisers neither needed nor wanted third party ownership and this was a deciding factor against us.

So who and why on the Rovers needed third party ownership?

It seems that we are building quite a catalogue of errors in our transfer dealings this window which is unforgiveable given the talent and experience already at the club.

[cruz]

It appears we only lost out on Formica because of this complicating factor of needing third party ownership.

It is very clear the player and his father and advisers neither needed nor wanted third party ownership and this was a deciding factor against us.

So who and why on the Rovers needed third party ownership?

It seems that we are building quite a catalogue of errors in our transfer dealings this window which is unforgiveable given the talent and experience already at the club.

What is your assumption that we wanted 3rd party ownership based on?

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

It appears we only lost out on Formica because of this complicating factor of needing third party ownership.

It is very clear the player and his father and advisers neither needed nor wanted third party ownership and this was a deciding factor against us.

So who and why on the Rovers needed third party ownership?

It seems that we are building quite a catalogue of errors in our transfer dealings this window which is unforgiveable given the talent and experience already at the club.

Yet again you have no idea whether this was an error on our part or not. A transfer has broken down and you immediately jump on that to assume its another fault you can blame Venky's for. You might be right obviously and im not saying that Venky's havent made mistakes by any means but when you just make stuff like that up it gets annoying.

[Fife Rover]

Very disturbing this. Formica is clearly a player Kean likes and expected to sign. And, if his assessment is correct, then he is the playmaker we needed. Years of football in him too, decent performances and his value would rocket.

So why hasn't it happened? We are told its got "complicated". The only complication I can see is that we wanted the transfer to go through a third party, namely Red Star Belgrade. Now what the hell is that about? A means of avoiding paying? Why? When asked how much money was available from the owners, the answer was "whatever it takes'. Meanwhile Monaco are happy to simply hand over the 3.5M fee sought and it seems they have got him.

The Venkettes on here can rationalise anyway they like but I find this very disturbing. Is there no money for transfer deals at all? Once again the the actions nowhere near match the hype.

A good performance today will probably mask all this but the questions remain.

Good post 47er. Sums it up nicely.

[philipl]

Yet again you have no idea whether this was an error on our part or not. A transfer has broken down and you immediately jump on that to assume its another fault you can blame Venky's for. You might be right obviously and im not saying that Venky's havent made mistakes by any means but when you just make stuff like that up it gets annoying.

Yet again you have neither read this thread nor the digest of links.

I don't mind people trolling me but at least make an effort to post an informed troll.

[RoverMad86]

Blackburn made an 8million euro offer for Pablo Osvaldo when Sam Allardyce was in charge, but again Espanyol turned it down. Quote lifted from Guillem Balague's column. If we have 8 million Euros why not get Formica or some one else of better quality?

Fabio Coentrao would be a good shout for left back.

Watched the QPR game yesterday and thought Taarabt gave the ball away alot, but his goal and assist were top class. Not what we need for me. Ball retention is what we lack at crucial stages of games. Might be a good impact player - last 20 mins throw him on if we need a goal. Doubt QPR would sell.