[Archived] Transfer Window Part 5

[thenodrog]

It appears we only lost out on Formica because of this complicating factor of needing third party ownership.

It is very clear the player and his father and advisers neither needed nor wanted third party ownership and this was a deciding factor against us.

So who and why on the Rovers needed third party ownership?

It seems that we are building quite a catalogue of errors in our transfer dealings this window which is unforgiveable given the talent and experience already at the club.

To be expected philip. Of the only two people with the necessary experience at the club, one has ben sacked and the other taking on a lower profile for a number of reasons.

[BuckyRover]

Terry Venables, George Graham etc etc all had experience. But now you would call them old hat.

Sam will now fade into obscurity. We plucked him from the dole queue previously, I don't think anyone will make the same mistake again. His style belongs in the 20th century.

[Hughesy]

I would be against selling Andrews.

What would you prefer? Manager at venkys express, pointing staff in the right direction?

[cruz]

To be expected philip. Of the only two people with the necessary experience at the club, one has ben sacked and the other taking on a lower profile for a number of reasons.

The last manager never dealt with transfers, like the previous managers and the current one. And what proof do you have that the Chairman isn't still tasked with negotiating transfers? Or is it yet another case of 'I know something but I can't tell' Kentaro based rumour and inuendo?

[JAL]

It appears we only lost out on Formica because of this complicating factor of needing third party ownership.

It is very clear the player and his father and advisers neither needed nor wanted third party ownership and this was a deciding factor against us.

So who and why on the Rovers needed third party ownership?

It seems that we are building quite a catalogue of errors in our transfer dealings this window which is unforgiveable given the talent and experience already at the club.

So Venky's Kentaro wanted to keep their cut of this player all to themselves, very worrying, and definitely something that needs highlighting as an unacceptable practice.

[cruz]

And rumours become facts

[Amo]

And rumours become facts

Well, Drog & JAL hardly need much convincing, do they?

[JoeBlueWhite]

I believe every single word that philipl says.

When has he ever been wrong ?

[Parsonblue]

Terry Venables, George Graham etc etc all had experience. But now you would call them old hat.

Sam will now fade into obscurity. We plucked him from the dole queue previously, I don't think anyone will make the same mistake again. His style belongs in the 20th century.

Maybe, but without him we would now be a championship club. Time to move on, but Sam has carved a place for himself in the history of the club by keeping the club afloat when all looked lost. For that he will always have the gratitude of all who care for Blackburn Rovers.

[brfcmad1979]

It appears we only lost out on Formica because of this complicating factor of needing third party ownership.

It is very clear the player and his father and advisers neither needed nor wanted third party ownership and this was a deciding factor against us.

So who and why on the Rovers needed third party ownership?

It seems that we are building quite a catalogue of errors in our transfer dealings this window which is unforgiveable given the talent and experience already at the club.

All that i have read on the Formica transfer seems to indicate as Phillip says that it is the player who is against the 3rd party ownership, with Monaco now seemingly favourites to sign it would seem not to be a problem with a transfer to them, hence to me it would seem that the 3rd party ownership issue is down to how WE want the transfer.

Seeing how i can't see how the 3rd party ownership can really benefit us i can only assume Kentaro/SEM/Whoever is pushing for this for whatever reason.

I don't go for the whole Kentaro conspiracy as any link would have to be mutually beneficial but i can see why Phillip and others are concerned by the way we are doing business through them.

[alexanders]

I too am quite curious about the reason behind the much talked about 3rdparty ownership in the Formica case.

IF we can't afford to buy Formica for around £4m. A player Kean clearly rates and in a position where we really need one. He also have the age on his side and may flourish for Argentina in Brazil 2014 which would increase his value a lot. IF we want him, but cant get him due to the need of 3rd party ownership. That is my first worry with the new owners.

[Torgeir]

Maybe we're just interested in a loan deal as we saw what happened with Villanueva? It's a risk to spend the majority of our transfer kitty on one player, especially someone unproven at this level. Newell's obviously want to sell, so the arrangement with 3rd party ownership is there to suit both Rovers and an investment group. We have probably been told to match Monaco's bid, if we don't then hopefully that's down to Kean wanting to spend his money elsewhere and not down to us not having the money.

[alexanders]

Information about Rochina:

la proxima semana Rochina

Rochina could leave Barcelona next week

Negotiations between Blackburn and the player would come to fruition and only missing the two clubs agree on the figures of the operation. The offer would be around one million British pounds and Barca, even though Luis Enrique has the player, the work would be acceptable given that the forward contract ends next June.

[Neal]

Taarabt would be a great signing for Rovers at the right price. He may give the ball away but that is more often the case with playmakers as they see more of the ball and with J.Jones and our back 4 allowing him to play freely behind the strikers it's not so bad to lose it so far up the pitch now and again. He would certainly fit the criteria of what Rovers are looking for, his style is very crowd pleasing. Watched him a few times and his ability usually outweighs his mistakes, plus i remember Tugay used to give the ball away a decent amount... Still a genius though. Sign him up!

[PAFELL]

Yet again you have no idea whether this was an error on our part or not. A transfer has broken down and you immediately jump on that to assume its another fault you can blame Venky's for. You might be right obviously and im not saying that Venky's havent made mistakes by any means but when you just make stuff like that up it gets annoying.

It isn't a made up account, hence red stars involvement. It has been reported elsewhere that it was a complicated deal. Often in life there are deals that are just not worth the hassle because of the complications involved. So you move on to the next deal.

[Rover & Out]

Our squad, when all fit, is too top heavy putting enormous strain on our wage bill.

IMO, we need to lose a keeper (Brown), at least two midfielders when we have Emerton, Hoilett, EH Diouf, Olsson, Jones, Dunn, Grella, Andrews, Nzonzi & Pedersen (no guesses needed for which two) and at least one striker when we have RSC, Niko, M Diouf, Roberts & Benjani.

Also, going forward, we can't afford to pay wages of £70 to 90K a week on permanent contracts. If RSC wants to come here, play permanent footie, he needs to accept that he can't get that level of dosh.

Totally agree, we need to lose at least two from that midfield list before we even think about bringing anybody in.

We had a strong and capable 16 yesterday, minus Andrews, Emerton and Grella.

You've also got to throw Goulon and Linganzi (although on loan) into that equation.

I assume injury is the reason Linganzi didn't make the Preston squad this week?

Defensively I feel we're covered, bar the addition of a full-back in the summer and P.Jones reverting to his natural position.

[philipl]

Reds manager Kenny Dalglish could be ready to bid for Paris St Germain striker Guillaume Hoarau, who would cost the Anfield club about £6m.

Full story: footylatest.com

From the BBC- apparently Hoarau was our number one rated target on the first list drawn up. Obviously RSC's return means a striker is now lower priority.

Nicko on the Liverpool/Blackpool/ Adam saga. Do we still think that once a fee is agreed Rovers will step in and nab the player? A quick look at the League table as it currently stands showing Rovers ahead of Liverpool....

[Iceman]

Reds manager Kenny Dalglish could be ready to bid for Paris St Germain striker Guillaume Hoarau, who would cost the Anfield club about £6m.

Full story: footylatest.com

From the BBC- apparently Hoarau was our number one rated target on the first list drawn up. Obviously RSC's return means a striker is now lower priority.

Nicko on the Liverpool/Blackpool/ Adam saga. Do we still think that once a fee is agreed Rovers will step in and nab the player? A quick look at the League table as it currently stands showing Rovers ahead of Liverpool....

Did Holloway not say he would sell only if a top 4 club comes in, or was it top 6? anyway, we are almost there

[chris]

My Dad's from Blackpool, my family live there.

Hence I would not mind them staying up I have a soft spot.

Selling you best player when you have a great chance of staying up is madness.

I agree with Holloway he should hold out for 8 million plus because Adams could be the difference that earns them 10's of millions.

[Iceman]

from the Daily Mirror

French bad boy Garra Dembele reckons he is on his way to either Blackburn or West Ham.

[philipl]

My Dad's from Blackpool, my family live there.

Hence I would not mind them staying up I have a soft spot.

Selling you best player when you have a great chance of staying up is madness.

I agree with Holloway he should hold out for 8 million plus because Adams could be the difference that earns them 10's of millions.

As we are at 24 January, we are close enough to transfer deadline day for an unwilling seller to find enough "legitimate" reasons to run down the clock to beyond the window.

And that includes Brum with us over Larsson.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

It isn't a made up account, hence red stars involvement. It has been reported elsewhere that it was a complicated deal. Often in life there are deals that are just not worth the hassle because of the complications involved. So you move on to the next deal.

No no, i wasnt talking about whether Red Stars involvement was true or not, it was that the transfer breaking down being our/venky's fault. The transfer broke down and immediately Philip said that this was a major error by Venky's when we have little actual idea as to exactly why the transfer broke down.

[Hughesy]

If I was Rovers, on both Larsson & Adam I'd wait till the summer...If we miss out then it simply wasn't meant to be.

[Pete1981]

Samba deal is close

[SAS]

Ssn still reporting rovers being linked with Formica