[Archived] Transfer Window Part 5

[nicko]

Mmmm Going off topic again, Nicko any news on Larson or douify going or Rochina or anything its going quiet.

Ta

Larsson down to valuation.

Diouf down to valuation.

Rochina down to valuation.

Ronieli seems to be more advanced than most. And that IS a buy apparently.

A lot of talking to be done...but the targets are now fairly obvious.

Deals teed up everywhere in the Premier League. Agreeing fees another matter.

The Charlie Adam thing is now downright silly.

[braddock]

Try before you buy is fine, as long as you have first choice on the player when the loan spell is over. I'm not too bothered about the fact their value may go up because that's the calculated risk with the strategy. Some will be good enough, some won't and the extra money you pay for the ones that are good enough is offset by the money you've saved by not buying the players that aren't.

Like I said before we signed Roque though, I would have taken the permanent deal. Solely because if he stays fit, and performs like we know he can do then 3 million is a steal. And I just fear that City would want a fair whack more if he does.

I'd still be wary of his fitness. I'm happier waiting to see if he can stay fit.

[brian nelsen]

Although I don't think there's actually anything in the most recent link, I don't think it's utter rubbish to believe that he'd potentially go back there.

He clearly thinks a lot of the club and fans there - he's gone on record many times since being at Ewood to state this - and they'd be stupid to prefer Gomes over Robbo.

I think, were he to leave, the only club (outside of the big boys) he's consider joining at this stage of his career would be Spurs.

And why would he leave us? Now we are beginning to show our potential and showing signs of getting stronger? Players are starting to commit and we are now in a position where we don't have to sell. This is a non-story. If things go to plan, we'll be on a more competitive level, more on par with Spurs. All of this, at best is scaremongery. And I reiterate, utter rubbish.

[gumboots]

Larsson down to valuation.

Diouf down to valuation.

Rochina down to valuation.

Ronieli seems to be more advanced than most. And that IS a buy apparently.

A lot of talking to be done...but the targets are now fairly obvious.

Deals teed up everywhere in the Premier League. Agreeing fees another matter.

The Charlie Adam thing is now downright silly.

From whose point of view? Player, Liverpool or Holloway or all 3?

[XLM]

I'd still be wary of his fitness. I'm happier waiting to see if he can stay fit.

From a risk assesment perspective, I think that the value that he could go up to makes the risk of injury worth it. We took the chance at about that value when we originally bought him.

That is me assuming that City would want some return on their investment on him (17 million + 90k a week for a year and a half = about £25 million) but I might just be giving them too much credit. After all money means nothing to them does it?

[nicko]

From whose point of view? Player, Liverpool or Holloway or all 3?

Blackpool's fee demands are a trifle high...shall we say.

[The Rover of Finland]

Everton have had a £3 million bid rejected for Tottenham midfielder Niko Kranjcar, Goal.com UK can reveal

Honestly, £5M isn´t too much for Krancjar. He is proven in PL and could be a long-term player. He is only 26 and has a lot of good years ahead. I would like to see Rovers paying £5M of him.

[booth]

Blackpool's fee demands are a trifle high...shall we say.

I laughed and laughed and laughed when Holloway said...

Well just when Holloway says anything really.

[dubdubdub]

From a risk assesment perspective, I think that the value that he could go up to makes the risk of injury worth it. We took the chance at about that value when we originally bought him.

That is me assuming that City would want some return on their investment on him (17 million + 90k a week for a year and a half = about £25 million) but I might just be giving them too much credit. After all money means nothing to them does it?

I think it'll be down to whether Roque wants to make the move and take a wage cut. By taking him on loan we're giving him the chance to taste first team football again and creating the time and opportunity to persuade him to move permanently.

[Presty On Tour]

£5m for Kranjcar, please get in their Rovers.

[LarryLink]

Honestly, £5M isn´t too much for Krancjar. He is proven in PL and could be a long-term player. He is only 26 and has a lot of good years ahead. I would like to see Rovers paying £5M of him.

I have to agree with thiis, to be honest anything under £7m and it would be a great buy. In my opinion he is exactly what we need to complete our midfield

[Mercer]

Honestly, £5M isn´t too much for Krancjar. He is proven in PL and could be a long-term player. He is only 26 and has a lot of good years ahead. I would like to see Rovers paying £5M of him.

Is he that good ?

Struggling to get a foot hold at Spuds. When I've seen him play, he's always struck me as being too much on the periphery rather than running and dictating a game. However, he's better than anything we have in the creative department and I think Everton's valuation is probably about right.

[TimmyJimmy]

Mods, why have you deleted my post?

[brian_gallagher85]

Blackpool's fee demands are a trifle high...shall we say.

And fair play to them, He'll more than likely be the difference in them staying in this league come May.

[gumboots]

Blackpool's fee demands are a trifle high...shall we say.

They have been from the start though. Surely if Liverpool are serious, then they need to offer a sum closer to Blackpool's valuation than the fees offered before, and then if Blackpool are still saying it's not enough, move on. I know there's a brinkmanship involved in the transfer window, but, judging by what's happened so far, Blackpool are not going to cave in on the last day of the window and suddenly give him away in a cut price offer as sometimes happens.

[Lee0r]

Sorry if already posted...

Valencia winger Vicente admits he would consider playing in the Premier League after being linked with a summer move to Blackburn.

[martmitch]

5m for Kranjcar id bite harrys hand off!

[deftangel]

Larsson down to valuation.

Diouf down to valuation.

Rochina down to valuation.

Ronieli seems to be more advanced than most. And that IS a buy apparently.

A lot of talking to be done...but the targets are now fairly obvious.

Deals teed up everywhere in the Premier League. Agreeing fees another matter.

The Charlie Adam thing is now downright silly.

You don't expect there to be a creative centre-midfielder target added to that list after Adam & the Argentinian chap fell through Nicko?

Disappointing if so, as that was the priority for me this window if we had money to spend and only partially mitigated by the arrival of Jones. Kranjcar should at least be worth a look with the money we had earmarked for Adam, although £5m is a bit steep. January sales and all that. Did the 20% VAT increase wind up on transfers too?!

[budha]

According to reports Blackburn Rovers are interested in Frenchman Jeremy Morel.

Sources in France claim Rovers boss Steve Kean is looking at bringing the Lorient captain to Ewood Park.

However, it seems he will face competition from his Bolton Wanderers counterpart Owen Coyle.

The defender is out of contract at the end of the season and is yet to agree a new deal with his hometown club.

And the two Premier League sides are reportedly preparing bids and will make a cut-price move in January.

But they face competition from French sides Saint Etienne and Lens, with Lorient demanding an answer from Morel about his future next week.

Click Lancashire

[chris]

Everton have had a £3 million bid rejected for Tottenham midfielder Niko Kranjcar, Goal.com UK can reveal

It would be nice to see Blackburn actually put in a bid on a player thats costs more then 500k.

Then I'd know we mean business rather then leasing players, although good loans.

But if venky's advisers don't recommend Kranjcar where does Kean stand on a player with value.

[XLM]

I think it'll be down to whether Roque wants to make the move and take a wage cut. By taking him on loan we're giving him the chance to taste first team football again and creating the time and opportunity to persuade him to move permanently.

According to the BBC live text of the West Brom game, Roque's said he wants to end his career with us. He didn't want to leave the area to go to Lazio, so I have no reason to believe that isn't the case.

[nicko]

You don't expect there to be a creative centre-midfielder target added to that list after Adam & the Argentinian chap fell through Nicko?

Disappointing if so, as that was the priority for me this window if we had money to spend and only partially mitigated by the arrival of Jones. Kranjcar should at least be worth a look with the money we had earmarked for Adam, although £5m is a bit steep. January sales and all that. Did the 20% VAT increase wind up on transfers too?!

A creative midfielder would certainly be nice, particularly with the team now playing that type of football.

Adam is off limits now. The Argie boy hasn't joined Monaco yet I notice...

It is the one glaring omission so far.

If you get some of the teenage talent in then it will be a worthwhile window.

Once they are boxed off you know what is left and what is needed.

[philipl]

I think the Lorient defender has been mentioned on quite a few occasions in the past. I doubt it has much substance this time beyond his agent speculating that Bolton or Rovers could lose a central defender this week.

Not to rain on anybody's parade but there is zero indication we ever had any money earmarked for Adam so I very much doubt we will be going in for Kracjar. Our only offer to buy anybody appears to have been £500k for Larsson when other clubs were bidding three times that amount.

I am far more interested in hearing what terms if any exist to make Santa Cruz, Jones and Mame Diouf permanent in the summer.

[dubdubdub]

According to the BBC live text of the West Brom game, Roque's said he wants to end his career with us. He didn't want to leave the area to go to Lazio, so I have no reason to believe that isn't the case.

Aye but how much of what he's said could boil down to getting the fans back on his side?

Then again, he wouldn't be here if he didn't want to be. I suppose it's quite humble of him to return when other clubs would have presumably snapped him up (even with the high wages).

Anyway, I was getting at the fact that if we'd have wanted to sign him this window it may have been difficult to negotiate his wages down in such a short space of time. By giving him games and his football back he may be much more willing to take a pay cut in summer. I was just saying that signing him this window was probably more difficult than offering a loan deal because I can't imagine us offering him what he's on at city if we do move in to sign him in summer.

Not saying which way is right or wrong and we'll never know.

I realise you aren't disagreeing per se.

[Steve Moss]

And fair play to them, He'll more than likely be the difference in them staying in this league come May.

Unless he feels he is now in an adversarial relationship with management, inclusive of Halloway, and his morale suffers as a result. I think Blackpool is playing a dangerous game.