[Archived] Transfer Window Part 5

[Bobby G]

I think we have enough short-term players including (worryingly) the two loans. It makes more sense to tie down Roberts in that respect.

[Roverite28]

All this talk about Charlie Adam, i dont see how it is much different to what O'Hara was doing at pompey last year and O'Hara ran more.

[Taggart]

I think Roberts might have a leadership role to play within the club. Kean is impressed with his attitude, and to give him credit, his work ethic is really second to none. Will be more of an impact player off the bench rather then play a pivotal role in the starting line up, and to be honest, you can do much worse for a 3rd/4th choice striker?

Santa Cruz, Kalinic, MB Diouf, Roberts, Benjani....

I heard he was going to be given a coaching role, and teach the young lads how to finish

on a serious note, I`m okay with a new contract as long as it doesn`t impact who we are trying to bring in, or stop one of the perceived better options from playing. Lets be honest, he does give us something different up front, dependent upon who the opposition are, if they can be bullied with strength and power then he is a good option up front or to come off the bench. Nothign wrong with giving ourselves some depth in the squad.

Would be happy if the SWP news is accurate, think he would be a brilliant mentor for the likes of Junior and Olsson and they could learn alot from him. If we manage to get our signings in, and they do the business I can see Rovers finishing top 8 in the league this year and providing a good springboard for next seasons campaign

[Bobby G]

He seems a good player Adam does but this 14 million Pound rubbish is crazy talk. Just check out what you can buy on the continent for that money!

[Roaming Rover]

Don't need SWP. He is a good player but that is about it. For me, Junior has finally got a run of games which he has needed and it would be a shame to drop him for SWP. If Junior needs mentoring we have EHD (for now, and on football matters only!!!) and hopefully Seb Larsson.

I just cannot see the logic in signing SWP.........

Save the cash and wages for other positions.......

[Mercer]

Strikers - if Rovers don't renew any existing contracts or sign RSC permanently, at the end of the season, we will have Niko & Blackman (Benjani on 1 season with 1 year option which I wouldn't have thought will be done). In that context, giving Roberts 1 additional season makes sense, as number 3 or 4 striker, providing we make at least 1 quality addition.

SWP must be speculation only - where would he play (instead of Olsson or Hoilett) and IF he came to Rovers, he would expect to play! If Olsson or Hoilett are messed about then they will be offski.

Chuffed that Blackpool seem to be digging-in over Charlie. Liverpool paid £11.5m for Meireles and offer £4m for Adam - a total insult.

Samba position gets more worrying to me with each passing day.

[callumrovers]

http://www.blackburn.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=229610

Rovers Transfer Update Exclusive

With 36589 players linked in and out of Blackburn over the last 3 weeks, it has come down to the final week of the window. Whether we do clinch some players or not, time will tell, however Glen has some vital information on a few of our targets

S Wright Phillips- Is available and Rovers are interested. However Blackburn want the winger to take a pay cut of 25k per week, and a 4 year contract will be on the table. Bolton are also in the running

Warnock- Simple really, Villa owe Blackburn money, and are finding a way not to stump up the cash. Best bet is to send the man back, and call it evens. Warnock wanted to go back to Liverpool, but they arent willing to offer a full time contract, could be a return to Ewood Park....

Rochina- The deal looks set. Player has agreed terms with Rovers, only hold up is the fee which Barcelona want. A bit of haggling on clauses, add ons, etc.....will be in a Rovers shirt soon.

Roniel- Arrived on Monday, the club will be holding an in house closed doors match, giving the young man a shot as well as players returning from injury, Grella, Andrews, Nzonzi, Roberts, etc.....

Kudo's to Glen for providing us with such great information

Read more: http://www.blackburn.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=229610#ixzz1C8DoRx1Y

[Kelbo]

SWP has no end product to his game, thats his problem and would struggle crossing the road, let alone a football.

I dont think he is one we need, Kranjkar or the Barcelona fella would be better options for us!

[RibbleValleyRover]

Don't need SWP. He is a good player but that is about it. For me, Junior has finally got a run of games which he has needed and it would be a shame to drop him for SWP. If Junior needs mentoring we have EHD (for now, and on football matters only!!!) and hopefully Seb Larsson.

I just cannot see the logic in signing SWP.........

Save the cash and wages for other positions.......

I agree, well said.

[47er]

Rochina signed?

http://www.footylatest.com/blackburn-win-race-for-young-barcelona-striker/19411?

[slough_rover]

Rochina signed?

http://www.footylatest.com/blackburn-win-race-for-young-barcelona-striker/19411?

Lets hope so as come summer we may lose Mame,Banjo and RSC.

[bluebruce]

Rochina- The deal looks set. Player has agreed terms with Rovers, only hold up is the fee which Barcelona want. A bit of haggling on clauses, add ons, etc.....will be in a Rovers shirt soon.

You know, I really don't understand this deal, from what we seem to be hearing. A million pounds? Clauses (presumably sell-on)? Add ons? He is out of contract in the summer and has told Barca he wants to leave for England then anyway. We've apparently agreed terms with the player. We've got Kalinic, RSC, M. Diouf, Roberts and Benjani until the summer (possibly this Ronieli kid too), not to mention I assume we could recall Blackman if we had an injury crisis and got really desperate. So why are we buggering around giving Barca a million and possibly sell-on clauses for a 19 year old we surely don't need before the summer? Why on earth aren't we just signing him up on a pre-contract agreement? I'm sure the lad would be keen, we could just throw an extra couple of hundred grand his way from the million we would no longer need to pay Barcelona.

[budha]

You know, I really don't understand this deal, from what we seem to be hearing. A million pounds? Clauses (presumably sell-on)? Add ons? He is out of contract in the summer and has told Barca he wants to leave for England then anyway. We've apparently agreed terms with the player. We've got Kalinic, RSC, M. Diouf, Roberts and Benjani until the summer (possibly this Ronieli kid too), not to mention I assume we could recall Blackman if we had an injury crisis and got really desperate. So why are we buggering around giving Barca a million and possibly sell-on clauses for a 19 year old we surely don't need before the summer? Why on earth aren't we just signing him up on a pre-contract agreement? I'm sure the lad would be keen, we could just throw an extra couple of hundred grand his way from the million we would no longer need to pay Barcelona.

Not sure, but I would assume there's the same kind of compensation policy for young players in Spain as in England. Like when Sturridge moved to Chelsea after his contract expired, Chelsea paid millions + add-ons for him.

[bluebruce]

Not sure, but I would assume there's the same kind of compensation policy for young players in Spain as in England. Like when Sturridge moved to Chelsea after his contract expired, Chelsea paid millions + add-ons for him.

There isn't. Not when they move to other countries. Hence why Barcelona were so angry when Arsenal poached Fabregas for free. Unless we just don't want to irritate Barcelona, since we have been looking at Vasquez too (similar situation though).

[roversR4ever]

Hi, be gentle with me - this is my first post!!! Though have spent far to much time reading this board!!

SWP - dont need or want him - Hoilett and Olsson are our future.

IF we have agreements in place for signing RSC and Jermaine Jones in the summer then I think we need a left back above all else, so Warnock makes a lot of sense, I think Olsson is wasted when he has to play there. Givet does a job but hes a better centre back.

We regards midfield, is it just me who thinks that Jermaine Jones will be more than just a def mid - I actually think he has ability and will be a box to box mid along side the the right mid partner maybe Nzonzi? Add into the mix Dunn - who is so much a better mid player when has more freedom to play an attacking role and Peds who still can play a role alongside Jones as well, then the playmaker is not quite as important this January certainly not at silly money. Id like us to get a young player who we can develope in that role. Offload Grella and Andrews (I know easier said than done!)

Perhaps we need a younger right back to bring through over the next year as well - although I do actually like Ems in that role (when he isnt playing for Australia)when Salgados legs finally give up.

The Barcelona player does look hopefull to start improving/giving more options up front.

So for me priorities must be to get agreements in place for both Jones and RSC, left back, young attacking mid and young striker (possibly with some real pace)

[budha]

There isn't. Not when they move to other countries. Hence why Barcelona were so angry when Arsenal poached Fabregas for free. Unless we just don't want to irritate Barcelona, since we have been looking at Vasquez too (similar situation though).

http://www.cescfabregas.info/profile.php

So that fee isn't correct?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1279506/Cesc-Fabregas-going-home-Barcelona-thats-left-Arsenal-agree-fee.html

That says initial £500k.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/arsenal/article2633746.ece

That says £700k and up to £2,2M.

[mattyc2422]

Like others, I rate SWP, but it is difficult to see where he would fit in our line-up. I would not want him to replace Junior or Olsson in the pecking order, and I can't see him being happy playing second fiddle.

RSC, Jones, Rochina, the young Brazilian lad and Warnock would be enough for me.

[AJW]

Hi, be gentle with me - this is my first post!!! Though have spent far to much time reading this board!!

SWP - dont need or want him - Hoilett and Olsson are our future.

IF we have agreements in place for signing RSC and Jermaine Jones in the summer then I think we need a left back above all else, so Warnock makes a lot of sense, I think Olsson is wasted when he has to play there. Givet does a job but hes a better centre back.

We regards midfield, is it just me who thinks that Jermaine Jones will be more than just a def mid - I actually think he has ability and will be a box to box mid along side the the right mid partner maybe Nzonzi? Add into the mix Dunn - who is so much a better mid player when has more freedom to play an attacking role and Peds who still can play a role alongside Jones as well, then the playmaker is not quite as important this January certainly not at silly money. Id like us to get a young player who we can develope in that role. Offload Grella and Andrews (I know easier said than done!)

Perhaps we need a younger right back to bring through over the next year as well - although I do actually like Ems in that role (when he isnt playing for Australia)when Salgados legs finally give up.

The Barcelona player does look hopefull to start improving/giving more options up front.

So for me priorities must be to get agreements in place for both Jones and RSC, left back, young attacking mid and young striker (possibly with some real pace)

congratulations , first post and you're making a lot of sense i actually agree with most of that

[Veevs]

You know, I really don't understand this deal, from what we seem to be hearing. A million pounds? Clauses (presumably sell-on)? Add ons? He is out of contract in the summer and has told Barca he wants to leave for England then anyway. We've apparently agreed terms with the player. We've got Kalinic, RSC, M. Diouf, Roberts and Benjani until the summer (possibly this Ronieli kid too), not to mention I assume we could recall Blackman if we had an injury crisis and got really desperate. So why are we buggering around giving Barca a million and possibly sell-on clauses for a 19 year old we surely don't need before the summer? Why on earth aren't we just signing him up on a pre-contract agreement? I'm sure the lad would be keen, we could just throw an extra couple of hundred grand his way from the million we would no longer need to pay Barcelona.

Wondering if there is more about the deal, given our apparent interest in vasquez as well, and our long term goal of getting hold of good young players so maybe a good relationship with Barca will prove useful in the long run.

Fact is he is also a perm signing, given RSC, Mame, Banjo and Roberts, as it stands currently are off in the summer, so not too worried about us climatising a kid through to the end of the season.

Like most of the deals this summer that have fallen through no one except those directly involved have all the facts.

Take the formica one.. so many people on here nailed Venkys, then according too Nicko it turns out he is already owned by a third party and although we really wanted the lad the legalities in the UK did not permit a direct transfer (hense the red star deal).

Ronieli + Rochina fit perfectly with what we have been told in regards too long term plans, and so do the loans for RSC and JJ.

We have been looking at numerous creative midfielders and a left back so we know the manager is looking at the correct positions, but even without a creative mid we are looking allot safer than we where at the beginning of December.

Saying that I really do feel that we will land a creative type by the end of the window.

[dhughes07]

There isn't. Not when they move to other countries. Hence why Barcelona were so angry when Arsenal poached Fabregas for free. Unless we just don't want to irritate Barcelona, since we have been looking at Vasquez too (similar situation though).

[Gav]

Regarding the Charlie Adam transfer, I applaud Blackpool for the stance and the price they’ve put on his head, they need him to stay, simple as that.

The guy was plucked from obscurity and wants to jump ship at the first opportunity the money men come calling. He needs to do the right thing and stay until the summer.

Blackpool couldn’t replace the guy in this window even with 10m, and that seriously puts their place in the premiership in jeopardy.

Well done Blackpool.

[braddock]

Samba position gets more worrying to me with each passing day.

Will you chill out and stop being so pessimistic? These things take time.

[dhughes07]

Players under 24 go to tribunal, so you have to pay for them anyway. Out of contract or not.

[Iceman]

Regarding the Charlie Adam transfer, I applaud Blackpool for the stance and the price they’ve put on his head, they need him to stay, simple as that.

The guy was plucked from obscurity and wants to jump ship at the first opportunity the money men come calling. He needs to do the right thing and stay until the summer.

Blackpool couldn’t replace the guy in this window even with 10m, and that seriously puts their place in the premiership in jeopardy.

Well done Blackpool.

You cant hold a player back either, he wants to better himself as a player by playing for a top team. Tough on Blackpool, we have been in that position before, and there is nothing you can do to prevent it. Loyalty doesnt exist much in football these days, so you cant expect players to stay if they dont want to.

You can praise Holloway all you like, but fact is that he is disrespecting the rest of the Blackpool players. He is focussing so much on Charlie Adam, but that entire team deserves as much credit for the way they have approached games this season. Adam is 1 player, he makes the team tick, but he certainly doesnt carry the team. I have watched quite a bit of Blackpool's game, and imo Adam is a drifter, who does something special, then disappears. Gamst is another one, goes and does something good, then for long periods will not do anything.

I think too much emphasis are being placed on Adam, when the entire Blackpool team should be praised by Holloway. in fact, he should have said that non of his players are for sale, and slapped big money on all of them. Its tough on teams like Blackpool, Rovers, Wolves, Wigan etc, because its bound to happen that a bigger team will poach one of your better or best player/s. Its just hard luck, thats how it goes, you move on and make do with what you have. If we could survive all these years, then im sure Blackpool can do that if they stick together if/when/should Adam leave.

[Kelbo]

You know, I really don't understand this deal, from what we seem to be hearing. A million pounds? Clauses (presumably sell-on)? Add ons? He is out of contract in the summer and has told Barca he wants to leave for England then anyway. We've apparently agreed terms with the player. We've got Kalinic, RSC, M. Diouf, Roberts and Benjani until the summer (possibly this Ronieli kid too), not to mention I assume we could recall Blackman if we had an injury crisis and got really desperate. So why are we buggering around giving Barca a million and possibly sell-on clauses for a 19 year old we surely don't need before the summer? Why on earth aren't we just signing him up on a pre-contract agreement? I'm sure the lad would be keen, we could just throw an extra couple of hundred grand his way from the million we would no longer need to pay Barcelona.

And if he's that good, are you saying no other club will make a move for him? I think this is the right move as if we were to wait until summer, he could move elsewhere.