[Archived] Keith Andrews

[Amo]

Unfortunately Keith's connection with Paul Ince is the thing that haunts him and the fans. Time those fans who are giving him abuse gave it a rest though. Whatever his faults he does give 100 per cent and you can't ask more than that of him.

That's simply not true, Mum.

Does Grella get flak because Ince signed him? Or because he's an average midfielder who's always crocked?

What about Robinson? He's highly-rated and respected by the fans after becoming one of our best players.

I do think the hate for Andrews goes too far (i.e. the booing), especially when more talented players like Pedersen get excuses made for them year after year, but if he was actually any good then people would soon forget who signed him.

[47er]

That's simply not true, Mum.

Does Grella get flak because Ince signed him? Or because he's an average midfielder who's always crocked?

What about Robinson? He's highly-rated and respected by the fans after becoming one of our best players.

I do think the hate for Andrews goes too far (i.e. the booing), especially when more talented players like Pedersen get excuses made for them year after year, but if he was actually any good then people would soon forget who signed him.

Completely agree!

[Jonnolad]

That's simply not true, Mum.

Does Grella get flak because Ince signed him? Or because he's an average midfielder who's always crocked?

What about Robinson? He's highly-rated and respected by the fans after becoming one of our best players.

People have a very short memory don't they It wasn't so much who signed him as where we got him from.

Grella and Robinson were alright because they signed from big clubs. The venom directed against Andrews was because we signed him from Milton Keynes Dons. That was the whole point of people's arguments about him being crap before he even kicked a ball, he had to crap because he came from that club, and the venom and boos came from there. It was snobbery from some fans - he can't be good enough - we should be making signings from Barcelona or somewhere like that. It's basically the same argument as Vinjay.

Have a look at the original thread if you don't believe me.

When's the civil ceremony Jonno?

Ah, if reason fails you, you can always rely on that old chestnut

[jim mk2]

Robinson and Grella have received their fair share of abuse from Rovers fans because of their performances so the notion Andrews only receives abuse because he came from a relatively smaller club is not true.

The difference is Robinson has won fans over with excellent performances while Andrews was poor when he arrived and has not improved since. If he had shown himself over time to be a good Premier League player the abuse would have stopped.

Memo to Keith's dad:

How does he feel about the prospect of a sale to QPR ?

[Jonnolad]

Unfortunately Keith's connection with Paul Ince is the thing that haunts him and the fans.

No it isn't.

Time those fans who are giving him abuse gave it a rest though.

We haven't even warmed up yet.

Whatever his faults he does give 100 per cent and you can't ask more than that of him.en when I come off the pitch.

Pick me then, I'll try so hard I will need oxygen when I come off the pitch.

Ah Plastic Head - you must be my favourite poster. When I read what you put I just think; thank god I don't share the same view point as you.

I particularly love the way you think the boos should be increased not decreased - it's genius. Let me guess; you're a big Rovers fan, you love the "team", the best feeling for you is seeing the team do well. That's why, when you heard that Keith Andrews played well for his country, you surely think "brilliant, I hope he does the same thing for us, we really really need our players to be playing their best". So at what point does it enter your head that the best way to make that happen is to boo him? I love that - it's so devoid of any reason that it's just brilliant.

Like I say - it's genius. Keep it up Einstein

Robinson and Grella have received their fair share of abuse from Rovers fans because of their performances so the notion Andrews only receives abuse because he came from a relatively smaller club is not true.

You must go to a different Ewood Park to the rest of us, because I categorically don't ever remember Robinson or Grella getting booed - ever.

Jim, your complete break with reality is obvious to anyone who cares to look back at the original thread. If you genuinely don't believe he only got abuse for coming from Milton Keynes Dons, then I suggest you take a look for yourself.

[Miller11]

Funny how by offering support to a Rovers player you are accused of sleeping with/being related to him. The people who abuse him most do so in poor English, and take great solace in the fact that there are lots of other people who think the same way as them. Empty vessels, loudest noise.

Never once have I seen any of Andrews' detractors offer any reasoned or logical argument as to why they believe he is so bad.

[Kelbo]

Funny how by offering support to a Rovers player you are accused of sleeping with/being related to him. The people who abuse him most do so in poor English, and take great solace in the fact that there are lots of other people who think the same way as them. Empty vessels, loudest noise.

Never once have I seen any of Andrews' detractors offer any reasoned or logical argument as to why they believe he is so bad.

Cant pass, cant tackle, cant head a ball, poor first touch, no pace and doesnt read the game too well.

[braddock]

People must be getting restless if this thread has been bumped.

[jim mk2]

You must go to a different Ewood Park to the rest of us, because I categorically don't ever remember Robinson or Grella getting booed - ever.

On the few occasions he has been on the pitch Grella is greeted with derision where I sit because (according to the cognoscenti around me) he plays so little he is picking up his money on false pretences. Robinson was pretty poor when he arrived from Spurs owing to a lack of confidence and there was a group nearby who took great delight in highlighting his deficiencies compared to his predecessor, the great Brad Friedel. They've been silent for the past 18 months however as Robinson has got better and better.

Andrews is a different case altogether. Have you every considered that he continues to get abuse because he is - in football pitch parlance - crap ? Fans aren't fools and they know a bad player when they see one.

[Jonnolad]

Cant pass, cant tackle, cant head a ball, poor first touch, no pace and doesnt read the game too well.

If only you were our manager Kelbo, everything would be alright

You have managed at top level haven't you? What's that, the highest level you achieved was your local girls under 13's, and even then you were sacked for not having a clue.

That's unimportant; you still clearly have an incredible ability to see things that world class managers can't see for the life of them, even when they have the benefit of pouring over match videos, not to mention all their assistants and expensive computer programs etc. What's more you have this amazing insight from just watching Keith every two weeks for 90 minutes, after you've had a few.

It really is an amazing gift - no one can take that away from you Kelbo!

[Miller11]

Cant pass, cant tackle, cant head a ball, poor first touch, no pace and doesnt read the game too well.

Very reasoned and logical. Despite being completely unable to do the most fundamental of things required of a footballer at any level, he has notched up 50 odd appearances for a Premier League club, and about 15 international caps since we signed him.

[alexanders]

QPR?

[Miller11]

Andrews is a different case altogether. Have you every considered that he continues to get abuse because he is - in football pitch parlance - crap ? Fans aren't fools and they know a bad player when they see one.

Unlike experienced, professional football managers, who are evidently fooled into thinking a poor player can perform in the Premier League or at international level??

[Jonnolad]

On the few occasions he has been on the pitch Grella is greeted with derision where I sit because (according to the cognoscenti around me) he plays so little he is picking up his money on false pretences. Robinson was pretty poor when he arrived from Spurs owing to a lack of confidence and there was a group nearby who took great delight in highlighting his deficiencies compared to his predecessor, the great Brad Friedel. They've been silent for the past 18 months however as Robinson has got better and better.

So Grella and Robinson both get/got abuse, but in the entire ground it's very very localised to just where you are sat? That's handy isn't Jim, really handy. That's so amazingly coincidentally handy in fact that it just looks like you're making it up to back your argument. You're not though are you? Nope, not you, definitely not. In this case it's just amazingly coincidentally handy. It just looks like you're making it up, but you're actually not.

Glad we cleared that one up.

Andrews is a different case altogether. Have you every considered that he continues to get abuse because he is - in football pitch parlance - crap ? Fans aren't fools and they know a bad player when they see one.

Our fans are even better than that - they know a bad footballer even before they've seen one! It all depends on where they come from apparently, not what they do on the pitch. That's the decider - when it comes to booing them or not anyway.

[jim mk2]

So Grella and Robinson both get/got abuse, but in the entire ground it's very very localised to just where you are sat? That's handy isn't Jim, really handy. That's so amazingly coincidentally handy in fact that it just looks like you're making it up to back your argument. You're not though are you? Nope, not you, definitely not. In this case it's just amazingly coincidentally handy. It just looks like you're making it up, but you're actually not.

Glad we cleared that one up.

Our fans are even better than that - they know a bad footballer even before they've seen one! It all depends on where they come from apparently, not what they do on the pitch. That's the decider - when it comes to booing them or not anyway.

Just to clear it up I'm just reporting what I hear around me - although I'm sure you know what I do or do not hear far better than me.

And thousands of people boo Andrews just because he comes from Milton Keynes - have you asked each and every one of them ?

Please clear that one up.

[Kelbo]

Very reasoned and logical. Despite being completely unable to do the most fundamental of things required of a footballer at any level, he has notched up 50 odd appearances for a Premier League club, and about 15 international caps since we signed him.

Its logical because its true, reasoned because for some unknown reason, he couldnt make it at Wolves, Hull and had a good season in division 1 and his performances at Rovers, whilst committed, have not been good, in my opinion and indeed many others who have watched the boy play.

[Amo]

If I remember rightly, this is the same Jonnolad who thought Darren Peacock was a good signing...

[K-Hod]

If I remember rightly, this is the same Jonnolad who thought Darren Peacock was a good signing...

He's clearly a good judge of player then!

[dopper69]

Cant pass, cant tackle, cant head a ball, poor first touch, no pace and doesnt read the game too well.

This is a thread for Andrews, not Kalanic!

[Amo]

He's clearly a good judge of player then!

Yup. I used the point that Peacock played under Keegan, Dalglish & Hodgson to counter his argument that 'Andrews must be good if experienced managers pick him'. To which he replied that Peacock was actually a good player.

[rebelmswar]

Yup. I used the point that Peacock played under Keegan, Dalglish & Hodgson to counter his argument that 'Andrews must be good if experienced managers pick him'. To which he replied that Peacock was actually a good player.

His hair was also gorgeous.

Think Peakock was a bit of a better positional specialist that our Keef.

[Kelbo]

If only you were our manager Kelbo, everything would be alright

You have managed at top level haven't you? What's that, the highest level you achieved was your local girls under 13's, and even then you were sacked for not having a clue.

That's unimportant; you still clearly have an incredible ability to see things that world class managers can't see for the life of them, even when they have the benefit of pouring over match videos, not to mention all their assistants and expensive computer programs etc. What's more you have this amazing insight from just watching Keith every two weeks for 90 minutes, after you've had a few.

It really is an amazing gift - no one can take that away from you Kelbo!

Yepo and thats why at 26 he still hadnt got out of the 1st division with MK Dons.

If you are telling me he has pace, can tackle, can read the game and can pass (other than a sideways hospital ball to his team mates) then you havent seen him play very much!! Highest level managed, sorry only semi pro but much higher than you!!

[Exiled in Toronto]

Yepo and thats why at 26 he still hadnt got out of the 1st division with MK Dons.

If you are telling me he has pace, can tackle, can read the game and can pass (other than a sideways hospital ball to his team mates) then you havent seen him play very much!! Highest level managed, sorry only semi pro but much higher than you!!

Still waiting for you to explain why managers who went even higher than you have put him into a premier league game 70 times and given him 20 international caps, even if you don't rate him? That's a lot of games now Kelbo. Mind, some people think Michael Caine can't act but some moron keeps putting him in movies.

[AggyBlue]

Mind, some people think Michael Caine can't act but some moron keeps putting him in movies.

Not a lot of people know that

[Kelbo]

Still waiting for you to explain why managers who went even higher than you have put him into a premier league game 70 times and given him 20 international caps, even if you don't rate him? That's a lot of games now Kelbo. Mind, some people think Michael Caine can't act but some moron keeps putting him in movies.

But, for all the comments, no one ever posts where his abilities lie?

I can accept constructive and reasonable comments but that he gets selected is not an answer, he wasnt rated at Wolves or at Hull and couldnt hack it, please, I am open to proper suggestions, tell me the part of his game which impresses you, passing, heading, tackling, pace ?????