[Archived] Bring back Big Sam

[CrazyIvan]

This thread just sums up the idiocy of the decision to sack Sam when Venkys did. I don't think he'd come back now... I'd take him back in a heartbeat though.

[True Blue & White]

Asking Sam back would be like asking your dependable but steady ex girlfriend back after you dumped her for that better looking bird who you then realized was as thick as pig's faeces and crap in bed. You look stupid for dumping them in the first place, they look stupid for coming back to someone that dumped them.

We seriously have no choice here but to keep Kean to the end of the season and HOPE we stay up. If we sack him now, we end up on the end of a media drubbing and still not guarantee getting someone in who could keep this squad up.

It's well and truly squeaky bum time, all we can do is hope Kean...or moreover 'luck'...can somehow keep us up this year and then have a big shift in personnel (and mentality) in the summer.

[92er]

We seriously have no choice here but to keep Kean to the end of the season and HOPE we stay up. If we sack him now, we end up on the end of a media drubbing and still not guarantee getting someone in who could keep this squad up.

It's well and truly squeaky bum time, all we can do is hope Kean...or moreover 'luck'...can somehow keep us up this year and then have a big shift in personnel (and mentality) in the summer.

The only sensible way to progress if a decision were made to sack Kean would be to line up his replacement before the sacking takes place.

I would have thought Allardyce might be tempted if he were offered enough money as it would give him a chance to prove the Rao family wrong. He might insist on Kean leaving the club and I don't know what the current owners/Kentaro people would think about that.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Generally you don't go back, I can't think of many situations where a manager has gone back to a previous club and has done well. No chance the owners would bring him back anyway and Sam wouldn't entertain the idea.

I wouldn't bring him back, the only way I would ever explore the possibility (and i wouldn't be fully happy about it) is a short term deal until the end of the season - giving us an option to get rid in the summer and look for a new manager.

[47er]

Asking Sam back would be like asking your dependable but steady ex girlfriend back after you dumped her for that better looking bird who you then realized was as thick as pig's faeces and crap in bed. You look stupid for dumping them in the first place, they look stupid for coming back to someone that dumped them.

We seriously have no choice here but to keep Kean to the end of the season and HOPE we stay up. If we sack him now, we end up on the end of a media drubbing and still not guarantee getting someone in who could keep this squad up.

It's well and truly squeaky bum time, all we can do is hope Kean...or moreover 'luck'...can somehow keep us up this year and then have a big shift in personnel (and mentality) in the summer.

Why would you worry about a "media drubbing"? If we go down, we'll get that anyway. The only question worth asking is "Can Kean keep us up"?

I think "no". Therefore, line up a replacement asap and off him imo.

[PAFELL]

Souness would give us a kick up the back-side no doubt. But I dont know if he has the fire in his belly anymore (As he puts it).

He is the one Rovers need at the moment - even just for 10 games. 10 games may be enough for him to see if he has the fire in the belly still.

Doubt Andrews would do much pointing then.

[Bobby G]

I also enjoyed the peak of the Souness years more than any other in the last decade. I try to remember his good days but then I recall Matteo on the left wing and I shudder.

[bazza]

Steve Maclaren is available.

Good call. I would even buy him a new brolly.

[Andy]

Steve McLaren would actually be a very good appointment...

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Asking Sam back would be like asking your dependable but steady ex girlfriend back after you dumped her for that better looking bird who you then realized was as thick as pig's faeces and crap in bed. You look stupid for dumping them in the first place, they look stupid for coming back to someone that dumped them.

We seriously have no choice here but to keep Kean to the end of the season and HOPE we stay up. If we sack him now, we end up on the end of a media drubbing and still not guarantee getting someone in who could keep this squad up.

It's well and truly squeaky bum time, all we can do is hope Kean...or moreover 'luck'...can somehow keep us up this year and then have a big shift in personnel (and mentality) in the summer.

If that's really the case it's game over for Rovers. This guy is only taking us DOWN.

[booth]

He has the charisma of a boiled cabbage on the touchline - where it matters.

I would rather have a slack jawed yokel, staring into the camera while he moves his plug of tobacco from cheek to cheek, intermittent whistlings of Dixie, and the odd yukyukyuk, who wins matches, than a polished ponce who couldn't motivate a five dollar whore to kiss his cheek.

Yeah but Holloway says he's happy to stay at Blackpool.

[LeChuck]

Sam is a proud man, he would never come back.

To be honest I don't know if I could handle a second stint of Allardyce, this place was unbearable for the majority of his tenure!

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From "Sam's" twitter:

# This Stoke v West Brom game is an absolute cracker. So many beautiful long balls. I call them 'Angel Passes'. Cos they're up in the sky.

# With the angels.

# "Hit Dioufy with an Angel Pass," I used to roar at my defenders at Blackburn. "Scorch the sky with your delivery, son." Proper football.

# Then I found out an 'Angel Pass' is also Senegalese slang for a complimentary rim job at a brothel. No wonder Dioufy looked so confused.

# Thought I'd have a bit of fun with the wife & ask her if she's a fan of 'Angel Passes'. Confuse the dozy cow with my secret double entendre.

# Quick as a flash she replies: "No chance. I'm not licking some dickheads bangle for free." What the f*** has she been up to?

[Steve Moss]

I was a Sam supporter and was against his sacking. However, I was more than a little frustrated with him on occassion and understand why the owners wanted him gone.

I am not in favor of bringing Sam back. The owners made a decision and it would not be a good dynamic if they were forced to swallow their pride. It would only result in future problems.

That said, I think the current crop, Anderson, Kean and Jensen, are not the answer the owners are looking for either. They need to be shown the door, in my opinion. They can be replaced. There is quality available. It would be my hope that the owners listened to their manager, if they replaced Kean, and did not override him on anything other than budget.

[philipl]

no they didn't! A typical vocal minority did.

A Lancs Telegraph poll was taken at the time - 80% of fans disagreed with his sacking.

It's irrelevant anyway - as if big sam would come back and work for these clueless clowns

Very important point to remember.

Too much has been said by Venky's for Sam to come back but Sam himself has been dignified, gagging order or not.

I believe some people have made discreet enquiries in the event of there being a vacancy but none that anyone on the MB would hope to be front runners.

[Lytham]

I'd have Sam back here in a heartbeat, he should never have been sacked in the first place.

It won't happen, of course.

Instead Rovers have the least well-equipped manager of all the relegation-threatened clubs, by a mile.

[Seggie]

Last few weeks have got me back to the point were I was on boxing day. I don't care anymore. Plenty of other footy on the telly to watch.

The worst thing is I believe Venky's have some decent plans for maximising Rovers potential to increase the business potential of their main business offering. I'm a fan of the think big stratagy but theres a need for a pragmatic approach occasionally too which Sam would have offered. It's also no good being able to think big without being able to execute the plans which sadly so far Steve Kean seems to be very good at.

I would hope that Mrs Desai (She kind of reminds me of an Indian version of Mom off Futurama)uses the business skills she has in accepting something isn't working and rooting out those causes. I hope she appoints a good chairman which all seems to have gone a bit quiet these days and accepts that perhaps we have gone from the best run club in the country to perhaps the worst.

[Mercer]

It might be our only chance of retaining PL status (my main interest) and for Venkys to maintain the value of their investment (which goes hand-in-hand with PL status).

I said this last Sunday.

Unfortunately, it's even more true tonight.

Venkys - eat a huge slice of humble pie and make Sam an offer he can't refuse. If you don't, not only will you ruin our proud club but you will lose yourselves a fortune.

JUST DO IT !!!

[Amo]

I said this last Sunday.

Unfortunately, it's even more true tonight.

Venkys - eat a huge slice of humble pie and make Sam an offer he can't refuse. If you don't, not only will you ruin our proud club but you will lose yourselves a fortune.

JUST DO IT !!!

Thanks for saying it again...

I'm sorry but I can't take that seriously.

[chocky]

You must be mad. Sacking Sam was the right idea. Appointing Kean the wrong one.

[DE.]

There are very few managers who would be able to get what Allardyce got out of our current squad. A very average team who struggle to defend or create.

No matter how poor Allardyce's football was to watch at times, he wouldn't have taken us down like Steve Kean is going to if he stays on. I'd be stunned to hear anybody other than Mark, Waggy etc saying they wouldn't have him back now.

[TugaysMarlboro]

I remember hearing the news of Sam's sacking, and although extremely surprised, I wasn't devastated by the news. I would have done the same, but waited until the summer. I was comfortable in mind thinking that even a former Goldman Sachs employee couldn't shag up our Premier League existence.

Just a few short months down the line and i'm papping myself senseless. I'm not envious of the person(s) who are now due to make the decision of "Kean or not to Kean" . Do we promote stability and stick with him even through recent results? Or do we chance our arm and recruit a new manager with the hope he'll bring instant results?

Either way, I'd like to make a suggestion to Venky's, employ Mystic Meg as an advisor.

[Mattyblue]

You must be mad. Sacking Sam was the right idea.

Unbelievable!

[MarkBRFC71]

Unbelievable!

But quite correct. We'd stagnated, were playing mind-numbing, percentage (i.e. luck) based football and just squirmed through our record Premier League defeat. However, having sacked him they should have appointed an experienced, forward-thinking Premier League manager, not a journeyman coach. That's the BIG mistake in all this.

As for the title of this thread - no way in hell. Not a chance.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Pointless really having this thread open as he won't come back and the owners will not want him back.

The overall decision to sack Sam was only wrong in my opinion because of the timing, it should have been done in the summer.

[Mattyblue]

we were on course to better last season, explain how that is stagnation?