[Archived] Should Steve Kean Be Sacked?

[BPF]

Venkys' spokespeople love lying about things, plenty of people know that she was over. They should know that they can't trick the press just by lying to them. They have quite a few nationals to defend their man in too now....

[Rover down South]

Gus Poyet is unlikely to leave Brighton to come to us. They are certain to gain promotion, he has financial backing from the chairman & they finally move into their new stadium at the start of next season. A stadium that some of you may get to see next season if Kean isn't sacked.

[Paul Mellelieu]

The only hope is that the players sort it out themselves. Just maybe some professional pride might kick in. Otherwise we are dead meat.

Stupid, stupid owners.

[BangkokRover]

Gus Poyet is unlikely to leave Brighton to come to us. They are certain to gain promotion, he has financial backing from the chairman & they finally move into their new stadium at the start of next season. A stadium that some of you may get to see next season if Kean isn't sacked.

Yes Gus is doing great but Brighton are currently a smaller team than Rovers, they also currently have no where near the financial clout that Rovers have. Of course if we are relegated and Brighton are promoted all that would change.

If we stay up he is the type of manager who could really build something at Rovers.

[JMillZz]

When I look at our remaining games, other teams remaining games, the fight they have in them, our seeming lack of fight and our tremendous inability to provide an upset I can't see us getting the necessary points. If you had asked me about relegation 2 months ago I'd have chuckled that there was no chance, now I am genuinely worried. I hope I'm wrong but I am terrified. The players need to feel the emotion of the fans and how much this means to us instead of listening to Karl Pillkington. The only way we could win at the moment is if the fans pick the teams and subs and give some emotional team talks. How I can dream eh? But I am very worried with Kean.. Very worried. We need a convincing win against blackpool and need to hope that a good 4 to 5 teams have a terrible terrible run where they seemingly can't win.

[PAFELL]

Gus Poyet is unlikely to leave Brighton to come to us. They are certain to gain promotion, he has financial backing from the chairman & they finally move into their new stadium at the start of next season. A stadium that some of you may get to see next season if Kean isn't sacked.

Sadly that is correct. I also live on the south coast. I also believe that because of the new stadium and promotion they will fill their new stadium. I only live about an hour by train from Falmer. Met quite a few people, who never been to brighton games are now considering buying season tickets when they move. Brighton, good for them, are on the up as a club and a team. I do think Gus Poyet would be good for Rovers though - but.

[PAFELL]

Tony Parkes is a part time scout by the way. Not sure he'd be interested in saving our arses for a seventh time though!

Oh yes he would, he loves the club.

Right..........I'm getting pished off by all this......

I went back to the Steve Kean thread to display the porno fleurked up t'rse posts by BPF but as the thread has been blocked I cannot resurrect them.......

BNP in several posts boasts of how much and at what odds he has bet on Kean being sacked.....

When he finds out this is not imminent he tells us to get down to Ewood to shout the guy out......

As this has not happened he has exploited his standing on the board to incite us to get Kean out......

How much does BNP stand to make in all this??

Have any of you heard of ramping...........

Can we trust him as much as Nicko??

When is this forum going to be a simple forum for Rovers fans who only care about our club

This is one of the worse posts I have seen for ages. Totally out of order. BPF is as passionate about Rovers as we all are. There is no hidden agenda on what he has been telling us.

[philipl]

Sun- Kean to get at least one more game.

My fear is that like with the firing of Sam, we are in the hands of the mistress of bad timing.

[Rover down South]

Yes Gus is doing great but Brighton are currently a smaller team than Rovers, they also currently have no where near the financial clout that Rovers have. Of course if we are relegated and Brighton are promoted all that would change.

If we stay up he is the type of manager who could really build something at Rovers.

[broadsword]

I don't think he should be sacked.

I think he should be shot.

[Rover down South]

It has Paul Ince all over it I think. Too risky and anyway I just don't think we'd appeal that much to him. As another poster has said, Brighton are on the up, they are the team to watch next season in the championship. As for financial clout, Tony Bloom has put in the £90 million to build the new stadium interest free until 2020 when he hopes to have recouped his money, to do that they need to be in the top division so he will back Poyet financially.

Gus Poyet sees the big picture and is part of Brightons long term plans.

[John]

In order to start off the week off on a high I just had a look at the form table (let alone the league table).

Did not realise we only lost 5 out of our last 6 games, I thought it was worse than that.

Even if we beat Blackpool in our next game we will still need to pick up more points, do we think Kean is capable? His results record suggests not.

[BangkokRover]

It has Paul Ince all over it I think. Too risky and anyway I just don't think we'd appeal that much to him. As another poster has said, Brighton are on the up, they are the team to watch next season in the championship. As for financial clout, Tony Bloom has put in the £90 million to build the new stadium interest free until 2020 when he hopes to have recouped his money, to do that they need to be in the top division so he will back Poyet financially.

Gus Poyet sees the big picture and is part of Brightons long term plans.

Are you saying he has more money than Venkey's

It has Paul Ince all over it I think. Too risky and anyway I just don't think we'd appeal that much to him. As another poster has said, Brighton are on the up, they are the team to watch next season in the championship. As for financial clout, Tony Bloom has put in the £90 million to build the new stadium interest free until 2020 when he hopes to have recouped his money, to do that they need to be in the top division so he will back Poyet financially.

Gus Poyet sees the big picture and is part of Brightons long term plans.

Comparing Gus Poyet to Ince is ridiculous.

[gumboots]

If the owners are ever going to sack Kean, now is the time. Waiting till after the Blackpool game, win, lose or draw, is not a realistic option. Any new manager would then have to come in and pick up a team that would probably by then be totally demoralised and prepare them for an away trip to the Emirates. Although it may be too late to do anything worthwhile now, it has to be now or not bother. That gives an incomer nearly a fortnight to prepare for a game we can't afford to lose

[Kelbo]

If the owners are ever going to sack Kean, now is the time. Waiting till after the Blackpool game, win, lose or draw, is not a realistic option. Any new manager would then have to come in and pick up a team that would probably by then be totally demoralised and prepare them for an away trip to the Emirates. Although it may be too late to do anything worthwhile now, it has to be now or not bother. That gives an incomer nearly a fortnight to prepare for a game we can't afford to lose

If you were dealing with proper football people, they would see that,unfortunately we are dealing with Venkeys, god knows who advises them now, I do hope they have found someone decent as Mr Anderson was certainly not the right man for the job.

I would as stated earlier, promote Salgado to asst manager to give some continuity and who knows all about the squad and weaknesses and bring in a good manager who knows how to set a side up for a game and who can istill some belief into what he is trying to achieve!

[G Somerset Rover]

The only hope is that the players sort it out themselves. Just maybe some professional pride might kick in. Otherwise we are dead meat.

Stupid, stupid owners.

This my only hope too Paul.

But out of the current squad I'd only back perhaps Robbo, Salgado, Jones and most importantly Nelsen to give a flying s*** about our club. To a lesser extent Givet and Roberts, but you get my point. Samba as our Captain is a joke.

90% of them will not lose much professional pride over relegation IMO.

[CrazyIvan]

Reading the papers, is demotion really an option? (Can we add that to the poll by any chance?) I would have thought that any new manager would want to throw the bathwater out and bring in his own staff. Frankly, Steve Kean really only has one option at the moment and that is to try and pull something out of the fire. Is he capable? I guess we have no choice but to find out. I'd rather not though.

I didn't quite beleive the rumours that Steve Kean got the job by stabbing Big Sam in the back and I'm still not convinced he did now. I do think 'someone' did though and that 'someone' may have well helped get SK his job. Who would have stuck the knife in to Big Sam to the owners and had their ear? Who would have suggested SK for the job and pushed SK to take the trip to India behind JW's back? Who would have had SK in his pocket and beholden to him by 'getting' him this job? Who would have gained financially because of having 'his' man in position and by putting him there? All of this is speculation of course...

[cloggyjimmybrfc]

So lets recap here.......the woman asnt been over here to sort brown tongue out?..(######).....and she is backing the passionless fool because?...a)no replacement?....no money?...c).no idea?......the venkys must have done something right to let the former owners allow them to buy brfc....its all one big joke but it aint funny in the least.

[Pete1981]

Kean remains bullish

[yoda]

there should be an option for sacking Venkys as well

[47er]

We certainly played better than we did against Villa and the players looked upset to have lost but the problem is that we shipped 3 goals. 4 against Villa. Where our defence was once our strength, it is now our weakness-----with the same players!

Against Newcastle at home, we were hopeless and didn't deserve a 0-0 draw. But Kean said it "was all about keeping a clean sheet". Then we go back to shipping goals in again and he says nothing.

Conclusion--he has no plan and no organisational skills and is simply winging it on a game by game basis. There is no consistency in his selections, his substitutions seem to be drawn out of a hat and consequently there seems no hope that we can go anywhere but down if he continues.

Its very late in the season, no-one could choose a manager guaranteed to turn this around now. But a new manager would give us at least a chance and some hope. To simply continue as we are means no hope, relegation and utter disaster.

[Balwer]

I vote to keep him. He gives good pressers and is well thought after in the game from my unbiased source. Also he's clearly served his apprenticeship, he was a Premier League assistant to Chris Coleman in the heady Fulham days after all.

I worry that if we lose him now a bigger club will come in and pinch him and we'll regret it. Kean to United perhaps?

[cloggyjimmybrfc]

Well done balwar.:.....post of the week,go and get a lollypop.

Balwar....well done,post of the week...go and collect your lollypop from kojak....

Dont know what happened there with that double barrel post...;-).

[47er]

I vote to keep him. He gives good pressers and is well thought after in the game from my unbiased source. Also he's clearly served his apprenticeship, he was a Premier League assistant to Chris Coleman in the heady Fulham days after all.

I worry that if we lose him now a bigger club will come in and pinch him and we'll regret it. Kean to United perhaps?

I don't think you'll reel anyone in!! I wonder if Vinjay could stomach him transferring to Manu?

[gumboots]

If you were dealing with proper football people, they would see that,

Thing is, I too know next to nothing about football in the sense that I have never been involved in running even a school team, but from a common sense point of view surely it makes sense to act decisively and cut your losses when it is obvious that what you are currently doing is not working. They've given Kean all the support they can - now must be the time to say enough is enough.