Mattyblue Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Because Allardyce wouldn't have worked alongside Anderson. They wanted a yes man. Bloomin' obvious. It's been bloomin obvious since day 1, but no, according to many on here, soccer connoisseurs Mrs Desai and Bilaj wanted 'football played the right way' so Sam had to go. Do me a favour!
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Majiball Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 We don't have the attacking players to consistently pick up results! Would have thought you would have noticed by now.... Last 8 games tail end of lat year, we were very impressive. That sustained period of a couple of months last year showed what we could do, when we mixed it up. You have to have variety in you play at that level at times under Sam you knew what we were going to do before we even did it, not good. Exactly. So what do you do if you want beat the Ferrari. You could try racing it again and again, hoping for a slice of lady luck, who knows the Ferrari could spin out on the last corner allowing the Mini to nip in and take the glory. Or do you try something new, take a risk - get the spanner out and start changing things searching for the correct set up? I'm not convinced any amount of spanner work could get a ferrari to lose to a mini. Because Allardyce wouldn't have worked alongside Anderson. They wanted a yes man. Bloomin' obvious. IMHO it was the plan all along, from before they even bought the club. Not for one second did I understand Keans declining of his first managers job at Kilmarnock, given they are not a disastrous SPL team.
Gav Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 I'm not entirely sure how Sam could have spent the remaining 4million any worse considering Formica and Rochina have had zero impact. Granted, JJ is a useful player, but he is no game changer and I think his impact on results is minimal (see results since he has been here). I think he was after Robbie kean which would have had zero impact also and cost a few bob.
BangkokRover Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 I think he was after Robbie kean which would have had zero impact also and cost a few bob. So he would have been worse than RSC?
Backroom trueblue Posted April 13, 2011 Backroom Posted April 13, 2011 Blackburn Manager resigns with immediate effect Something fishy there... why resign with only 2 games left in the season?
BPF Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 I've been too negative recently and I think that my last post was a little over the top. Turning over a new leaf now. I promise.
BangkokRover Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Something fishy there... why resign with only 2 games left in the season? He decided sod it and got in the showers with the girls?
RovertheHill Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Might be time for a new Steve "Football Genius" Kean thread 125 pages and counting. Of I look forward to the mods surmising all this information Easy Steve Kean is temporarily in charge Who? Ohhh, him He sounds okay This is sh*t Really sh*t. We want Sam back We don't. Sam was sh*t No he wasn't Yes he was (repeat above 2 lines 100 times) Has he even got his badges? Yes No he hasn't Yes he has (repeat above 2 lines 100 times) Oh this is slightly better This is great New players Liverpool are sh*t Oh not so good now In fact it's sh*t Really sh*t Really really sh*t. We want Sam back We don't. Sam was sh*t No he wasn't Yes he was (repeat above 2 lines 100 times) That's about it... :-)
A cup of beans Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 So he would have been worse than RSC? yeah.. we havent paid 4m for santa cruz.. and robbie kean has also been out injured and hardly featured for wham!
Kelbo Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Last 8 games tail end of lat year, we were very impressive. That sustained period of a couple of months last year showed what we could do, when we mixed it up. You have to have variety in you play at that level at times under Sam you knew what we were going to do before we even did it, not good. I'm not convinced any amount of spanner work could get a ferrari to lose to a mini. IMHO it was the plan all along, from before they even bought the club. Not for one second did I understand Keans declining of his first managers job at Kilmarnock, given they are not a disastrous SPL team. And there Maji you have hit the nail firmly on the head, which is something I heard too!!
booth Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 IMHO it was the plan all along, from before they even bought the club. Not for one second did I understand Keans declining of his first managers job at Kilmarnock, given they are not a disastrous SPL team. Forgot about this, very suspicious. Why would you give up a big opportunity like that in your homeland? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/k/kilmarnock/8721486.stm My opinion of the fellow sinks deeper and deeper.
John Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 IMHO it was the plan all along, from before they even bought the club. Not for one second did I understand Keans declining of his first managers job at Kilmarnock, given they are not a disastrous SPL team. Very true - there were stories, I think, prior to the takeover which suggested Venky's were not keen on Sam. Presuming as they know nothing about football their intelligent advisers must have been guiding them along nicely.
BangkokRover Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 yeah.. we havent paid 4m for santa cruz.. and robbie kean has also been out injured and hardly featured for wham! And West Ham have?
tony gale's mic Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Forgot about this, very suspicious. Why would you give up a big opportunity like that in your homeland? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/k/kilmarnock/8721486.stm My opinion of the fellow sinks deeper and deeper. As much as I dislike Kean and am open to the possibility he may have been involved in the Sam sacking, this story was from June 2010, a long time before the Venky's takeover.
John Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 He probably was on more money as a coach here when compared with the offerings at Killie.
Kelbo Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 As much as I dislike Kean and am open to the possibility he may have been involved in the Sam sacking, this story was from June 2010, a long time before the Venky's takeover. Point taken there but who found the club the buyer? who could have said, sit tight Stevie, bigger fish to fry here mate!! Just a thought thats all!
roverwhelmed Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Forgot about this, very suspicious. Why would you give up a big opportunity like that in your homeland? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/k/kilmarnock/8721486.stm My opinion of the fellow sinks deeper and deeper. I'm not sure this should be something to criticise him for. If he was enjoying working at Rovers then fair do's. The EPL is certainly a lot more glamorous than the SPL. There could be many many reasons why he felt that move wasn't right for him - money, ambition, a Lancashire lass, who knows?? I don't want SK to be manager of our club, but I think SK-bashing can get a bit out of order at times. (Not you personally booth, just in general)
booth Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 I'm not sure this should be something to criticise him for. If he was enjoying working at Rovers then fair do's. The EPL is certainly a lot more glamorous than the SPL. There could be many many reasons why he felt that move wasn't right for him - money, ambition, a Lancashire lass, who knows?? I don't want SK to be manager of our club, but I think SK-bashing can get a bit out of order at times. (Not you personally booth, just in general) You can look at it two different ways, and one of them isn't pleasant. I just cannot understand why a coach, not even assistant manager, would turn down an opportunity to step up like that with nothing bigger on the horizon. I could perhaps understand it if we were Chelsea or Man Utd, but we aren't. As Kelbo has said, Anderson will have been involved at that point who is Kean's agent. Add to that, Venky's will have been on the radar a long time before they actually took over. Allardyce certainly thinks that things were a little underhand when he spoke as a pundit on ESPN for the Arsenal game. If you place yourself in Allardyce's shoes you can begin to see why. Something stinks about it, but it's all conspiracy theories at the moment I agree. It could be a strange coincidence that he just happened to turn down a big opportunity before we were taken over by new owners, who had been eased into the purchase by his agent.
rebelmswar Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Being manager of Killie is like being manager of some League 2 team. Wish he would have left like, but I can not see the allure of being an Old Firm rape victim multiple times a season and being thrashed by the Terrors that are Dundee Utd.
booth Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Being manager of Killie is like being manager of some League 2 team. Wish he would have left like, but I can not see the allure of being an Old Firm rape victim multiple times a season and being thrashed by the Terrors that are Dundee Utd. You are seeing this from the perspective of Steve Kean the premier league manager, not Steve "Who?" Kean the coach. Other Scottish managers have began at the smaller SPL clubs. The only feasible reason that anyone's posted on here is that he'd have had to take a pay cut, perhaps considerable.
otto man Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 You can look at it two different ways, and one of them isn't pleasant. I just cannot understand why a coach, not even assistant manager, would turn down an opportunity to step up like that with nothing bigger on the horizon. I could perhaps understand it if we were Chelsea or Man Utd, but we aren't. As Kelbo has said, Anderson will have been involved at that point who is Kean's agent. Add to that, Venky's will have been on the radar a long time before they actually took over. Allardyce certainly thinks that things were a little underhand when he spoke as a pundit on ESPN for the Arsenal game. If you place yourself in Allardyce's shoes you can begin to see why. Something stinks about it, but it's all conspiracy theories at the moment I agree. It could be a strange coincidence that he just happened to turn down a big opportunity before we were taken over by new owners, who had been eased into the purchase by his agent. And how many gunmen were there on the grassy knoll? Christ! This thread just staggers from bad to worse
rebelmswar Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 You are seeing this from the perspective of Steve Kean the premier league manager, not Steve "Who?" Kean the coach. Other Scottish managers have began at the smaller SPL clubs. The only feasible reason that anyone's posted on here is that he'd have had to take a pay cut, perhaps considerable. I getcha but still, the Killie players wouldn't want to manage them. Talk about a thankless job - makes binmen look like celebrated heros.
Gav Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 And how many gunmen were there on the grassy knoll? Absolute quality Otto :lol:
booth Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 And how many gunmen were there on the grassy knoll? Christ! This thread just staggers from bad to worse For goodness sake, it isn't that much of a stretch. Allardyce clearly thinks there was something afoot before he was relieved of his duties. As I clearly said, it's all conspiracy theory. But what do you expect when Steve Kean's appointment was one of the strangest appointments in the clubs history, if not football history?
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