[Archived] Steve Kean

[A cup of beans]

What a silly reply. Run out of arguments?

Rest assured I will have been watching as long if not longer than you, and will certainly have been to many more games, both home and away. Does that make you feel better?

The level and passion of my support is not the problem here. The problem is obviously Steve Kean. We disintegrated mentally when SA was removed for a number of reasons, but primarily as it displayed a total lack of understanding and class. Huge respect was lost. He needs to be removed, simple as that.

Anyone still under the misguided impression that SK is doing a good job needs to give their head a rattle!

why wont you answer... run out of answers ?

[Ivorsemion]

"Going to the Emirates and getting a point, getting a point against Birmingham, we were just chipping away.

Birmingham at HOME should be 3 points - nothing to be happy about!

That interview from in the LT makes my blood boil!

This is exactly the kind of Kean-bilge i was talking about in my email to MR Cryer - it's the same stuff over & over again in the LT with very little reference to the fact that supporters have had enough of him. You have to wonder if MR Cryer actually speaks to Kean at all. Still no reply by the way!

[alexanders]

"I thought in the first half we were excellent, but they were better than us in the second half"

EXCELLENT?

"I though we controlled all aspects of the game of the first half"

WHAT?

[LeChuck]

I really struggle to have any sympathy for them

I have zero sympathy as well, they've brought it on themselves by being so pig headed about it.

My point really is that it's not too late to sort this out. If Kean is sacked and an experienced manager comes in, what other issues are there? Say we hired Martin O'Neill, what else would need fixing? A good manager would sort everything out.

They just have to take the step of firing Kean. Unfortunately by leaving it so long, Kean's position at the club is untenable now. Had they done this a month or so back they could have given him his old job back.

[TimmyJimmy]

Its the 1st Round of the FA Cup today and the BBC will,of course, be covering every game. Over to our man at Pleasington Park, Reg ######. Can you hear me Reg?

"Certainly can Campbell. Well its that big day for the little clubs when men dare to dream of the impossible and the improbable often happens. Nowhere is the dream bigger than here at Pleasington where Blackburn Rovers AFC hope to do the unthinkable and see off local giants Accrington Stanley.1500 fans are already packed into this picturesque little ground and I can definitely say its standing room only.

Manager Steve Kean was ebullient about his side's chances when we spoke with him earlier today":

You know Reg, there's enormous belief in my players. We know we can do it. They've been exceptional in training, we've had 2 days training together on the beach at Southport, courtesy of our wonderfully supportive owners who have a great plan for the future and we are really looking to cause an upset. We don't just want a result, we want to show the big boys we can play the beautiful game too. We want to win of course but we intend to do it the right way.

So there you have it Campbell, great confidence from manager Kean despite his side's woeful run in the Lower Darwen Hargreaves's Pet Shop League of late."

Back to you in the studio Campbell.

Is this our future?!

I tried not to laugh I really did, but I didn’t succeed. A very good point made in a very humorous way. It’s such an appalling time right now that this gallows humour actual helps me get through it.

As far as the protest goes - no - at least don’t do it before the game for G*ds sake! If you must, save it for afterwards. Better still if you care for the club which you all do, don’t do it at all. Potentially points can come from any of the remaining games and while that’s a bazillion to one shot right now it will be a bazillion to zero shot for the rest of the season if we heap that extra pressure on the players.

We’ve all seen even top players crumble under the pressure and when you’re holding on by your finger nails it’s probably best not to indulge an impulse to scratch your arse - you may feel better after scratching the itch but we’ll certainly be plummeting to our doom.

Piric victory and all that. Let’s do our job and be the 12th man and hopefully the players will do theirs.

[roverwhelmed]

I have zero sympathy as well, they've brought it on themselves by being so pig headed about it.

My point really is that it's not too late to sort this out. If Kean is sacked and an experienced manager comes in, what other issues are there? Say we hired Martin O'Neill, what else would need fixing? A good manager would sort everything out.

They just have to take the step of firing Kean. Unfortunately by leaving it so long, Kean's position at the club is untenable now. Had they done this a month or so back they could have given him his old job back.

good points.

[Mercer]

There is a real momentum building up against Kean with some people now looking to organise a Protest before the City game.

I have also managed to get Star News (Sky equivlent in India) interested in this story, hopefully they are going to cover this in the next few days and send a team up to Blackburn to get viewpoints of Rovers fans.

Meanwhile in Pune, it seems business as usual.

Kamy - should we not also be targetting Radio Lancs as well - Hickson can be a bit of a bruiser when minded. Also, if we could pick-off some of the tabloids such as The Sun, Star etc who would be tempted to go for the sensationalist sort of stuff. People like yourself and BPF have the media contacts to make this happen.

Clearly the more noise the better and the more uncomfortable and, hopefully, untenable the clown's position becomes.

[Mattyblue]

Yes zaccius, I have watched all manner of @#/? down Ewood Park, however this situation is entirely different.

Through the 70s and 80s we had nowt, getting through the summer with no income coming in was a challenge for the club.

Now, we have spent 18 out of 20 years in the top flight, we were highly respected within the game, we had the best chairman in the business and a highly effective manager, this has all been thrown away in a matter of months.

With our wage bill, we could fall through the divisions like a stone (thats if we survive at all), yes, that is worst case scenario- but it shold not be a scenario at all.

So sorry, the old 'aye, but it were reight int thowden days ont terraces' cuts no ice with me.

[A cup of beans]

Now, we have spent 18 out of 20 years in the top flight, we were highly respected within the game, we had the best chairman in the business and a highly effective manager, this has all been thrown away in a matter of months.

rovers highly respected within the game ????????/ who by ????

[PAFELL]

We're not there yet, need to make sure Star do cover this properly and need to make sure that the piece that Star News do is about the feelings of Rovers fans (both positive and negative), although judging by the fans I have talked to today there isn't going to be much positive.

This getting aired in India WILL make Venky's take notice. Up until now they have been "cocooned" from the viewpoints of the fans, but this will hammer home the message (be at positive or negative).

I suggest admin have a SACK STEVE KEAN THREAD so that this star paper will know where to look on this site. Even though ther is a steve Kean thread - the early posts do not look for his sacking. But if that thread was removed / locked etc it may help a little.

Kamy - should we not also be targetting Radio Lancs as well - Hickson can be a bit of a bruiser when minded. Also, if we could pick-off some of the tabloids such as The Sun, Star etc who would be tempted to go for the sensationalist sort of stuff. People like yourself and BPF have the media contacts to make this happen.

Clearly the more noise the better and the more uncomfortable and, hopefully, untenable the clown's position becomes.

Also bombbard 'your on sky sports'.

[Mercer]

ive a few questions for you and anyone else who wants to protest.

how long have you supported rovers? have you seen them through dark times before ? - about 50 years, yes, including when bottom of old 3rd division

do you go to home and away games ? Yes, including Europe who would you appoint as manager ? Sam

what do you think a protest will achieve. - make Kean's position untenable

if you want our owners out... who do you think will buy us and invest for the future ? _ at the right price, you'd be surprised. I've heard speculation of interested parties already.

all questions are honest and not designed to trip anyone up etc...

Can we have your answers please.

[Mattyblue]

rovers highly respected within the game ????????/ who by ????

THe media are not 'the game'.

By other clubs, by the FA, by the PFA, by former players, by journos that actually have a brain.

[A cup of beans]

Also bombbard 'your on sky sports'.

brilliant idea!

THe media are not 'the game'.

By other clubs, by the FA, by the PFA, by former players, by journos that actually have a brain.

i didnt mention the media.

which clubs.. fa members etc...

where's your eveidence or are you generalising again... to bring it round to sacking kean ?

[blue_and_white]

I'm with you 100%.

They've completely messed up because they don't know what they're doing. However I believe their intentions are good. They want success, as do we.

They need to start setting things right by appointing Kean and getting a proper manager in. If they do that a lot of the rest should sort itself out.

I agree their intentions are good but the way they've gone about things at Rovers has been pig-headed, irresponsible and plain stupid. I'm baffled as to how they've accumulated such wealth when they couldn't recognise that Rovers was a well-run organisation that needed to be generally left alone save for additional investment. They should have took any staffing advice from Williams, they should have given Allardyce total free reign over transfers and then they should have taken a backseat and watched the success and compliments come rolling in.

But no, thats obviously not sufficient to placate their egos and give them enough of a feeling of power. So they hire a random agency and its clueless head who'd already failed at Man City to make wholesale changes and established an organisation of yes men and people out for themselves. Being honest they couldn't have made a bigger mess of Rovers if they'd tried. Unless Venkys reverse their entire future approach and remove Anderson for good then I can just see this bumbling, clueless meddling continuing and any success we do get will be pure luck.

[sambo]

THe media are not 'the game'.

By other clubs, by the FA, by the PFA, by former players, by journos that actually have a brain.

Anyone who knows anything about football had to respect how well we were run.

We got criticism from the media sometimes, but mainly unfounded criticism due to their annoyance little old Blackburn Rovers were upsetting the big boys and the media favourites.

Now they just laugh at us.

brilliant idea!

i didnt mention the media.

which clubs.. fa members etc...

where's your eveidence or are you generalising again... to bring it round to sacking kean ?

Where's your evidence they didn't respect us?

Plenty of managers used to praise Big Sam and how formidable an outfit we were.

The season ticket prices drew lots of plaudits, and John Williams had a lot of praise in the footballing world.

Don't tell me you support Kean?

[Mercer]

I've rarely known such collective agreement on this MB!

Like many others, I can't bear to see Kean's face or listen to his voice. It's hard to believe that one individual can engender such collective, and I do not like using this word to describe feelings about anyone, hate.

If there is a protest before the match against City then I will be there as will a handful of others of my generation that I know - and boy, don't we know how to protest!

[Mattyblue]

brilliant idea!

i didnt mention the media.

which clubs.. fa members etc...

where's your eveidence or are you generalising again... to bring it round to sacking kean ?

As I met JW last year, he told me that the 'BRFC model' was the one all 'smaller clubs' wanted to ape, no investment from owners, but stayed competitve year on year. He told me how Dave Whelan was amazed that the club was still thriving despite having nothing from the Trust in four years.

Show me a former player that slags off the BRFC of the last two decades- as Tim Sherwood said

'Spurs were probably the biggest club I played for, Rovers were without doubt the best'.

Why on earth I am justifying just how well BRFC was run to you, I don't know.

[booth]

brilliant idea!

i didnt mention the media.

which clubs.. fa members etc...

where's your eveidence or are you generalising again... to bring it round to sacking kean ?

Zaccaius we are well aware by now that you're a sit on your hands type of guy. But I do agree with you that a protest before the game may be counter productive. I say maybe because so far the great support the team has had has done little hasn't it? Attendances are up with fans desperate to support the team. Hasn't helped much.

However, after the game there should certainly be a protest whatever the result. What's happening to the club is a crime.

[sambo]

I've rarely known such collective agreement on this MB!

Like many others, I can't bear to see Kean's face or listen to his voice. It's hard to believe that one individual can engender such collective, and I do not like using this word to describe feelings about anyone, hate.

If there is a protest before the match against City then I will be there as will a handful of others of my generation that I know.

Agreed!

The man makes my blood boil.

Ince got me angry but not like this backstabbing, lying, deluded t0sser!

Whenever I see his face I want to punch him!

As I met JW last year, he told me that the 'BRFC model' was the one all 'smaller clubs' wanted to ape, no investment from owners, but stayed competitve year on year. He told me how Dave Whelan was amazed that the club was still thriving despite having nothing from the Trust in four years.

Show me a former player that slags off the BRFC of the last two decades- as Tim Sherwood said

'Spurs were probably the biggest club I played for, Rovers were without doubt the best'.

Why on earth I am justifying just how well BRFC was run to you, I don't know.

Exactly, don't rise to it!

I'd wager most clubs in the country would kill to be ran like we were. Comfortable Premier League finishes with zero-little investment, cheap season tickets, we were well and truly spoiled!

[A cup of beans]

Anyone who knows anything about football had to respect how well we were run.

evidence ? see below

We got criticism from the media sometimes, but mainly unfounded criticism due to their annoyance little old Blackburn Rovers were upsetting the big boys and the media favourites.

Now they just laugh at us.

i'll focus on big sam's time at rovers. the media despised rovers and his long ball anti- football.

they did the same at newcastle and have only changed their tune since he was sacked at rovers.

the media hacks on skys sunday suppliment who come out in support of big sam now are perfect examples of this.

the custis brothers, woolnough etc...

Where's your evidence they didn't respect us?

if we were so respected there would be examples of this? there isnt ONE!

Plenty of

managers used to praise Big Sam and how formidable an outfit we were.

who ??? "sir alex, and as big sam calls him "my mate brucie "???

The season ticket prices drew lots of plaudits, and John Williams had a lot of praise in the footballing world.

nothing to do with the subject!

Don't tell me you support Kean?

i support blackburn rovers and just want to get behind the club and the team, cos anything else is only damaging. im realistic to know its too late to change the manager now. the summer is a different matter. and im sure the owners planned previously and do plan to replace kean then

[Mattyblue]

Answer my post then zac.

[The Gull]

Which pillocks are voting to keep him?????????????

In all seriousness, the argument that stability may save us or it is too late to change it just doesn't wash, we probably need two wins to survive and I just can't see how this idiot can manage that but the old "new manager effect", in my opinion, has a greater chance of working.

I will presume that the voting has been infiltrated by some of our six fingered friends, as Freddy might refer to them, from over the hill.

Mods, name and shame those who are in favour of keeping him and disregard and Dingles votes.

I am in the same boat as Mercerman, this level of disgust at the current manager is unknown of in my time as a Rovers fan, as is the level of agreement on this board!

[A cup of beans]

Why on earth I am justifying just how well BRFC was run to you, I don't know.

sherwood whelan, add bellamy savage and souness the that list.

i meant outside people who didnt have any affinity to rovers.

[Mattyblue]

Yeah so? I don't have any interest in Tottenham, but they are known as a well run football club within the game.

Try looking a bit deepr.

[A cup of beans]

Which pillocks are voting to keep him?????????????

I am in the same boat as Mercerman, this level of disgust at the current manager is unknown of in my time as a Rovers fan, as is the level of agreement on this board!

im guessing you didnt witness brian kidd sell a premier league side and replace them with championship players to the tune of about £28 million ???

im a keep him, as i dont think he will get sacked and there's not anyone to replace him, as ive said numerous times.

Yeah so? I don't have any interest in Tottenham, but they are known as a well run football club within the game.

Try looking a bit deepr.

well run within the game ? have you seen their accounts. if they fail to get champions league football and a new stadium within the next few years they will be screwed financially!

numerous articles from london based journalists on this subject.