[Archived] Steve Kean

[broadsword]

Sherwood wasn't forced out. Wilcox I can't remember, think he went to Leeds once we were relegated.

Flower ... I always felt his form dipped a little bit around this time. i always thought we should've kept Shay and sold Tim.

But in any case, I don't think you have a case for Kidd arriving and selling off title winners as part of a Man Utd vendetta.

If Kean isn't more hated than Kidd then just give it time ...

[Roverall]

I think everyone is missing the key point in all of this.

Steve Kean does a GREAT presser.

[A cup of beans]

Apologies, I think you are right. did Filan save a penalty at Chelsea?

Either way, I thought he was decent.

filan was decent, but at fault for several goals towards the end of the season.

flowers was proven and shouldve got back in as number 1. (filan was 1st choice when kidd arrived due to flowers being injured)

[Kelbo]

he did weaken the team by getting rid of prem winners and replacing them with the mcateers, wards, carsleys etc...

he certainly had issues with flowers... flowers in on the record as saying so.

wilcox and sherwood have also said they felt forced out.

bullshit ? really... ?

spending £28m pounds and getting rid of your best players... did that not happen.

"this manager and owners are a pathetic excuse for the human race"

the mind boggles with this statement... have you had any dealings with them or people who have ???

before any1 asks i have. the doc and dave fevre!

Most definately yes, one person much closer than you would believe!!

One of those signings remember was Matt Jansen.

[BangkokRover]

shay given didnt play in 98/99 season it was filan. im sure given was sold the season before, cos we had fettis etc...

Given signed for the Newc in the summer of 1997 for a fee of £1.5 million.

[A cup of beans]

Sherwood wasn't forced out. Wilcox I can't remember, think he went to Leeds once we were relegated.

flowers sherwood, wilcox (he left once we were relegated yes), have made this clear in press articles and media interviews.

the man united vendetta over flowers and sherwood is the only way i can rationalise and explain it.

Most definately yes, one person much closer than you would believe!!

One of those signings remember was Matt Jansen.

2 decent signings made by kidd. craig short and matt jansen (maybe mcateer, but he was inferior to what we had before)

the rest were terrible.

i repeat the figure spent... £28 million

both jansen (aprt from his amazing debut goal) and short didnt really come good and help the club til we were in the championship under souness.

[Gav]

bullshit ? really... ?

spending £28m pounds and getting rid of your best players... did that not happen.

"this manager and owners are a pathetic excuse for the human race"

the mind boggles with this statement... have you had any dealings with them or people who have ???

before any1 asks i have. the doc and dave fevre!

I must say that the level of hatred towards Kean for me is unprecedented, don’t recall it being anywhere near as bad under Kidd. Although on the face of things Kidd was worse than this chap, the money he wasted I agree Zac.

[A cup of beans]

I must say that the level of hatred towards Kean for me is unprecedented, dont recall it being anywhere near as bad under Kidd. Although on the face of things Kidd was worse than this chap, the money he wasted I agree Zac.

i question why the hatred though.

im interested in the reasons.

have a go at him for being a crap manager by all means, but do it once we're safe OR NOT

and cut out the personal stuff that first and foremost is detrimental to the players on the pitch!

Most definately yes, one person much closer than you would believe!!

WHO ?

[Gav]

i question why the hatred though.

im interested in the reasons.

have a go at him for being a crap manager by all means, but do it once we're safe OR NOT

and cut out the personal stuff that first and foremost is detrimental to the players on the pitch!

Couldn't agree more Zac, said the same Saturday and was hammered for it.

[Kelbo]

i question why the hatred though.

im interested in the reasons.

have a go at him for being a crap manager by all means, but do it once we're safe OR NOT

and cut out the personal stuff that first and foremost is detrimental to the players on the pitch!

WHO ?

I know things that others dont, I dont post it on here, there is a mutual trust and confidence between my contacts and I would never divulge on a messageboard to people I dont know personally or who I am sure I can trust, as for the hatred, Kean stabbed Allardyce in the back and if you are unable to deduce that from the happenings, then something is clearly wrong!!

This is not to mention he is an extremely poor manager who knows it and will take his money and run as from what I have learned, not many clubs would have the clown near them, even as a coach!!

[The Gull]

wasnt a dig 'THE GULL' im not about that.

"this level of disgust at the current manager is unknown of in my time as a Rovers fan."

was your comment.

most i spoke to at the time of kidd's reign were far more disgusted than they are now. millions squandered, a personal issue with not picking tim flowers, and the selling of other prem winners due to us beating united to the title.

why do you dislike kean as a person ?

not a trick question or a dig.

My reasons to dislike Kean are quite simple and start with the manner in which he got the job, continue with his campaign to get the job full time by being a salesman, followed by his obvious ineptitude to do the job but carry on doing it and finished off by his ridiculous press conferences where he lies and talks absolute ######.

I, like many, thought at the time that Kidd was a very good appointment, it turned out that he also could not make the step up to manager and he had to go and did go.

The players he sold from the Championship team were sold for good money when we were relegated and probably didn't want to be here.

Under the old regime Kean would for starters not have got near the job, but if by chance he had he would have gone by now.

The man is a fraud and is just taking his big pay day before sloping off to the depths he came from.

[den]

Obviously saying what Venky's want to hear - positivity.

“It’s just a run of bad results. It’s only Aston Villa away where I thought we were poor. I don’t think there have been any really poor performances.

"Our performances have been okay. We have to make sure those performances equal points.

Latest crap. - can you really believe this tripe?

[chaddyrovers]

There is a real momentum building up against Kean with some people now looking to organise a Protest before the City game.

I have also managed to get Star News (Sky equivlent in India) interested in this story, hopefully they are going to cover this in the next few days and send a team up to Blackburn to get viewpoints of Rovers fans.

Meanwhile in Pune, it seems business as usual.

Hope that they talk to real rovers fans about the situation and not just hand pick fans by the club who support kean and owners.

we need a change of manager for sure and now maybe new owners. the owners and Kean are just not facing reality. When the owners took over they sacked a proven manager and chairman and haven't replace either. no chairman yet and a totally novice manager who can face that he's not up to the job and can't face we are in a relegation scrap.

the owners have admitted that they don't know anything about football, so why not get to the end of the season with the current managerment in place. I am a fair believe that SA would have got us into Europe this season. all we need was about 10 million pounds for SA to sign a striker and midfielder playmaker.

The owners have ###### this up big time and Kean is to blame aswell!!! they have took us back 2 years within 6 months of being in charge. great work

[gazsimm]

It might not be right time to be replacing a manager at this time of the season, but if we do keep with this guy, we will be playing championship football next season thats for sure, The guy is clueless, his tactics, team selection are just laughable. There is no fight in the team anymore, the players just look like they are relegated already. If the owners want to be respected by the fans, they need to take action now and sack Kean now!!

[Gav]

My reasons to dislike Kean are quite simple and start with the manner in which he got the job,

I think its a very dangerous game to say the manner in which he got the job, was nothing but above board.

Nobody, except a couple of southern journalists seem to know this to be true, the very same journalists that said Kean had been summoned to a London hotel after the Arsenal game to be sacked, which was total and utter rubbish.

I don’t like the guy as a manager, but I really don’t think he did anything underhand, the owners didn’t have a plan B when sacking Allardyce, and he was in the right place at the right time, simple as that for me.

Naive?

[A cup of beans]

I know things that others dont, I dont post it on here, there is a mutual trust and confidence between my contacts and I would never divulge on a messageboard to people I dont know personally or who I am sure I can trust, as for the hatred,

ok... i'll have to believe you then!

Kean stabbed Allardyce in the back and if you are unable to deduce that from the happenings, then something is clearly wrong!!

you know that for a fact do you...??

kean personally stabbed sam in the back ???

id like to know how that can be proved.

all we know is by the big sam interviews and appearances, when he was feeling betrayed and also cos neil mcdonald didnt get the job.

if they had sacked sam and hired mcdonald... im sure sam wouldve said similar things about being stabbed in the back by mcdonald.

This is not to mention he is an extremely poor manager who knows it and will take his money and run as from what I have learned, not many clubs would have the clown near them, even as a coach!!

ok i'll have to beilive you again then!

I think its a very dangerous game to say the manner in which he got the job, was nothing but above board.

Nobody, except a couple of southern journalists seem to know this to be true, the very same journalists that said Kean had been summoned to a London hotel after the Arsenal game to be sacked, which was total and utter rubbish.

I don’t like the guy as a manager, but I really don’t think he did anything underhand, the owners didn’t have a plan B when sacking Allardyce, and he was in the right place at the right time, simple as that for me.

Naive?

agreed.

[chaddyrovers]

The team look like the same team under ince. they look downhearted and they know that we are going down just like we were before we sacked ince and brought in SA!!! he was the right manager for us.

[Kelbo]

ok i'll have to beilive you again then!

People who make silly gestures remind me of children in schools and yes, you will have to believe me because this is the truth, maybe I should post some wedding pics, have a LOOK AT THE BEST MAN AND GROOMSMAN, I am sure you will recognise them!!

But then again, that would be giving my contacts away, are you sure you arent a paid poster from Venkys? there are some on here you know!!

[chris]

I think its a very dangerous game to say the manner in which he got the job, was nothing but above board.

Nobody, except a couple of southern journalists seem to know this to be true, the very same journalists that said Kean had been summoned to a London hotel after the Arsenal game to be sacked, which was total and utter rubbish.

I dont like the guy as a manager, but I really dont think he did anything underhand, the owners didnt have a plan B when sacking Allardyce, and he was in the right place at the right time, simple as that for me.

Naive?

Kean is crazy postive, which nicko and Venkys easily fell for and thought being positive means you are a future gem. Most football brains would have said ok this looks dangerous, we have been here before.

Sam may have got sacked partly, because he was honest.

[chaddyrovers]

I don’t like the guy as a manager, but I really don’t think he did anything underhand, the owners didn’t have a plan B when sacking Allardyce, and he was in the right place at the right time, simple as that for me.

Naive?

you think???

did the owners have a plan A???

any decent owners would have a shortlist with 4 or 5 names on it who would have like the job or at least interview before they decided who was the right choice! what JW would have done if he was allow to do so!!!

[A cup of beans]

My reasons to dislike Kean are quite simple and start with the manner in which he got the job, continue with his campaign to get the job full time by being a salesman, followed by his obvious ineptitude to do the job but carry on doing it and finished off by his ridiculous press conferences where he lies and talks absolute ######.

examples.. evidence ???

I, like many, thought at the time that Kidd was a very good appointment, it turned out that he also could not make the step up to manager and he had to go and did go.

The players he sold from the Championship team were sold for good money when we were relegated and probably didn't want to be here.

:angry:kidd brought the 1div players in during the season.. and replaced key players when we still had chance to stay up.

Under the old regime Kean would for starters not have got near the job, but if by chance he had he would have gone by now.

maybe but not a month before the season finishes. he'dve been replaced before now!

The man is a fraud and is just taking his big pay day before sloping off to the depths he came from.

how... cant blame him for taking the job and trying to prove himself. any1 else would do the same.

[onlyonejackwalker]

ok i'll have to beilive you again then!

agreed.

Are you still arguing? You must be blue in the face! Give it up pal, you sound like a footballing dinosaur. Not everyone saw the problems unfolding as quickly as others, but most have seen the light now. There is no disgrace being 6 / 8 weeks off the pace.

Our ex-manager did all was asked of him. The Walker Trust kept us afloat and trading at this level satisfactorily. The Venky's mixed a bottle and we are paying for it now. Kean needs to be removed immediately. Simple as that.

[A cup of beans]

People who make silly gestures remind me of children in schools and yes, you will have to believe me because this is the truth, maybe I should post some wedding pics, have a LOOK AT THE BEST MAN AND GROOMSMAN, I am sure you will recognise them!!

ok pm me them then... and i'll issue a full apology!

But then again, that would be giving my contacts away, are you sure you arent a paid poster from Venkys? there are some on here you know!!

ive gone on record as telling you my contacts. no different if you would.

paid poster from venkys... you got me! this conspiracy is getting bigger!

Are you still arguing? You must be blue in the face! Give it up pal, you sound like a footballing dinosaur.

im still waiting for your answers etc.. im being reasonable in asking questions and opinions.

[Kelbo]

ive gone on record as telling you my contacts. no different if you would.

paid poster from venkys... you got me! this conspiracy is getting bigger!

I simply dont trust you, its as simple as that and I would find it extremely difficult to trust anyone, who having witnessed the disaster which is Venks/Kean and Andreson, who can still defend them.

End of story, oh and yes, there are people on this MB who do know who my contacts are but I know and trust them!

[Gav]

People who make silly gestures remind me of children in schools and yes, you will have to believe me because this is the truth, maybe I should post some wedding pics, have a LOOK AT THE BEST MAN AND GROOMSMAN, I am sure you will recognise them!!

But then again, that would be giving my contacts away, are you sure you arent a paid poster from Venkys? there are some on here you know!!

Come on Kelbo he's named his sources and is asking you to do the same. I'm sure we understand why you can't, but that means hes got the upper hand on this one.