[Archived] Steve Kean

[onlyonejackwalker]

Obviously saying what Venky's want to hear - positivity.

“It’s just a run of bad results. It’s only Aston Villa away where I thought we were poor. I don’t think there have been any really poor performances.

"Our performances have been okay. We have to make sure those performances equal points.

Latest crap. - can you really believe this tripe?

SK makes this comment on the link shown. WTF!

"We’ve only lost seven games out of 41 or 42 at Ewood, we’re in very good form there".

This is a bit cheeky! Fancy claiming the credit for someone else's record! This guy is off the scale and will lie and spin as much as is required to try and safeguard his salary.

ive a few questions for you and anyone else who wants to protest.

how long have you supported rovers? have you seen them through dark times before ?

do you go to home and away games ?

who would you appoint as manager ?

what do you think a protest will achieve.

if you want our owners out... who do you think will buy us and invest for the future ?

all questions are honest and not designed to trip anyone up etc...

On three occasions you have now asked me to answer your silly little questions. Ok I will, purely to see how you reply as it better be ground-breaking stuff, wasting my time like this.

1) How long have I supported Rovers? Don Martin was centre forward. Work it out for yourself.

2) Have I seen the dark times before? Work out my reply to question one and then work out the answer for this yourself.

3)Do I go to home and away games? ST holder - LT - BE - Row 3. Have been to 10 away games this year, normally it is more, but my shop now opens Saturdays.

4)Who would I appoint as manager? far be it for me to point ou I am not involved in the decision making process, but in the short-term I would reemove Kean and install Nelsen to simply unite the club. In the longer term I would need to know who was available and interested to make my choice.

5) What do I think a protest would achieve? You are mixing me up with others. Concentrate please. I did not recommend any protest, in fact quite the opposite as I said it should be avoided prior to any game. If after the game then my hope would be the protest would be listened to and common sense prevail with Kean removed.

6) I have never stated I want the owners out. Not once. If arguing with multi-posters all at once then you need to be smarter than this and accurately guage and follow responses.

"All questions are honest and not designed to trip anyone up."

How condescending. I will try and avoid you tripping me up anytime soon charlie.

Meanwhile, that is 5 minutes of my life I won't get back answering your silly childish questions. What relevance any of them have I do not know and am going to sit back and await your hugely knowledgeable reply so I fully understand your train of thought.

Waiting.....

[Gav]

you think???

did the owners have a plan A???

any decent owners would have a shortlist with 4 or 5 names on it who would have like the job or at least interview before they decided who was the right choice! what JW would have done if he was allow to do so!!!

Thats the owners fault not Keans, he was offered the job and took it, until I see evidence to the contrary that’s what I believe, we’d all have done the same.

[Craigman]

Has anyone written to Steve Kean himself asking him to resign ?

[PAFELL]

I know things that others dont, I dont post it on here, there is a mutual trust and confidence between my contacts and I would never divulge on a messageboard to people I dont know personally or who I am sure I can trust, as for the hatred, Kean stabbed Allardyce in the back and if you are unable to deduce that from the happenings, then something is clearly wrong!!

This is not to mention he is an extremely poor manager who knows it and will take his money and run as from what I have learned, not many clubs would have the clown near them, even as a coach!!

That goes without saying. A confidence should not be betrayed. No need to defend yourself.

Kean must have been a decent coach for Sam to appoint him in the first place. When he was given the managers job I was willing to see if he could do the job. I realise he cannot.

But it is not just the bad results on the pitch and the slide down the table. But the garbage he has been coming out with - more so recently to the media.

Talking about the home record - which was Sam's

The good spirit in the camp - that I am aware of was the case, but has started to weaken rapidly.

I do not think the players are happy with RSC in the side, because they know if they played as bad as he has done they would be dropped - yet RSC keeps the shirt.

[watty]

Mike Bassett England manager anyone?

[Mattyblue]

What concrete evidence would you accept GAV?

Why was the number 1 (Allardyce) AND the number 2 (MacDonald) sacked, but the number 3 coach (the only one with ZERO number 1 experience retained and then promoted?)

Nowt to do with the agency of the said number 3?

Also, there is no CONCRETE evidence that Myles Anderson was signed because his Dad is a central figure in the club- I still believe it to be the case.

There is no CONCRETE evidence that says Jensen was appointed assistant because he was a SEM client- as the manager had neve met him before he was parachuted in, I believe it to be the case.

You're insulting your own intelligence by going 'nah, no proof, didn't happen'.

[davulsukur]

I think its getting pretty obvious who's calling the shots around here. Kentaro probably said sack Allardyce and put Steve Keantaro in charge till the end of the season, minimal risk because we were in no trouble at the time. As you would have expected us to scrape enough wins to survive and probably not expecting the league to be so tight.

I wonder if Venkys have actually thought about pulling the plug only to be convinced of Steves ability by Kentaro.

We desperately need a chairman who is NOT a Kentaro client and can advise the owners from a different angle. Although we had one of the best, and he packed it in, presumably because his advise was being totally ignored.

I cannot in anyway see how Kean was not even slightly involved in some under handed tactics to get the job. How can a set of owners who know nothing about football appoint him, when in reality most Rovers fans did'nt know who he was. Doesn't add up.

The owners are naive, and need to sever the Anderson links asap.

[Kelbo]

What concrete evidence would you accept GAV?

Why was the number 1 (Allardyce) AND the number 2 (MacDonald) sacked, but the number 3 coach (the only one with ZERO number 1 experience retained and then promoted?)

Nowt to do with the agency of the said number 3?

Also, there is no CONCRETE evidence that Myles Anderson was signed because his Dad is a central figure in the club- I still believe it to be the case.

There is no CONCRETE evidence that says Jensen was appointed assistant because he was a SEM client- as the manager had neve met him before he was parachuted in, I believe it to be the case.

And no concrete evidence that JW and SA were gagged as part of the pay off, nor that the players who were unhappy with the sacking of SA were given new contracts with the relagation clauses removed with regards to wages, I believe also those issues to be the case.

[Gav]

What concrete evidence would you accept GAV?

Why was the number 1 (Allardyce) AND the number 2 (MacDonald) sacked, but the number 3 coach (the only one with ZERO number 1 experience retained and then promoted?)

When the number 1 is sacked the number 2 usually leaves also, happens throughout the leagues more often than not, Kean was next in line, he shouldn't have been, but thats where the club found itself.

Hardly evidence Matty.

The bottom line here is, people want to believe Kean is the bad guy, it supports arguments, but in reality if the above is all you have, then to say thats won't stand up in court is an understatement!

Lets have facts not fiction

[PAFELL]

ive a few questions for you and anyone else who wants to protest.

how long have you supported rovers? have you seen them through dark times before ?

do you go to home and away games ?

who would you appoint as manager ?

what do you think a protest will achieve.

if you want our owners out... who do you think will buy us and invest for the future ?

all questions are honest and not designed to trip anyone up etc...

What a pathetic and arrogant post.

1/what difference does it make how long a person has been a support of Rovers? None, all supporters have a right to an opinion.

2/ does it matter if a person goes to games or not? supporters could live abroad or far away. It does not make them less of a supporter. To even remotely suggest different is really childish.

[Mattyblue]

Kean is not the bad guy, it it was any other club I would say fair play to him- if it was me and I was a SEM client, I wouldn't have been able to beleive my luck.

However, our naive and pigheaded owners have been manipulated every step of the way by SEM.

[Majiball]

Obviously I'm not willing to name the names of Kelbo's friends, but I know who they are and when I found out I was gobsmacked.

If people on here knew who the two people are in his wedding photo's you'd listen. Both of them are very high up the footballing food chain.

[PAFELL]

Thats the owners fault not Keans, he was offered the job and took it, until I see evidence to the contrary that’s what I believe, we’d all have done the same.

For the sake of any possible legal action, maybe best to keep what we believe to ourselves. Unless we have concret evidence to support either opinion.

[Beta Ray Bill]

Isn't it about time this thread was moved to ICBINF? Cos Steve Kean is about as close to football as my mums garden gnomes.

What's happening really makes you want to weep.

And we know he's not going to get the sack, so if by some fluke we do stay up, there's not much hope for next season other than more delusion ramblings about non existent "excellent" performances as we are relegated by Christmas.

[Mercer]

SAM WILL NOT BE REHIRED.... ANYONE WHO SERIOUSLY THINKS HE WILL BE IS PUDDLED!

You are puddled if you do not think that this might be the only option to well nigh guarantee us survival!

[davulsukur]

When the number 1 is sacked the number 2 usually leaves also, happens throughout the leagues more often than not, Kean was next in line, he shouldn't have been, but thats where the club found itself.

Hardly evidence Matty.

The bottom line here is, people want to believe Kean is the bad guy, it supports arguments, but in reality if the above is all you have, then to say thats won't stand up in court is an understatement!

Lets have facts not fiction

I am like you Gav, I generally prefer Facts over good theorys, but in this case I find it hard to see this in any other way. Unfortunately we will probably never find out.

You're right, when the manager is sacked normally the 2nd in command goes as well. Steve Kean takes over as caretaker, thats fine too, but there were a few managers kicking around who were out of work, MON, Steve Maccer, Martin Jol. Appointing Kean did not fit with Venkys plan they outlined when they took over. They said they wanted to move the club forward. Appointing a complete novice is not the right way to go.

Kean's found himself in the hot seat somehow, when there were so many better options around. And Venkys know nothing/very little about football, how could they have possibly known anything about Kean?

The blame for me, falls with Kentaro, they are the cancer of this club.

[Amo]

It's naive to think that Kean's connections to SEM/Kentaro didn't help him land the managerial hotseat.

Whether he actually colluded to remove Sam from his post is another matter entirely.

[roverandout]

13 votes now to keep him, which numbnuts is it this time?

[roverandout]

did anyone see gordon strachans interview on soccer sunday yesterday? he said of his boro stint, 'i held my hands up that i wasnt up to the job, i tried my best but it wasnt good enough so i decided to walk away so that the club wouldnt have to pay out any compensation, i put the blame mostly on myself for the way it turned out' This is a class guy, whos honest enough to admit that he wasnt good enough, why the hell cant his fellow countryman do the same. Simple answer, he has no class.

[JMillZz]

When the number 1 is sacked the number 2 usually leaves also, happens throughout the leagues more often than not, Kean was next in line, he shouldn't have been, but thats where the club found itself.

Hardly evidence Matty.

The bottom line here is, people want to believe Kean is the bad guy, it supports arguments, but in reality if the above is all you have, then to say thats won't stand up in court is an understatement!

Lets have facts not fiction

McDonald did not leave like many assistants do, he was sacked. Allardyce came out and said how surprised he was that they didn't keep McDonald and appoint him as his temporary replacement.

[vintageadidas]

I am VERY SAD to say it but we are a mess at the minute. No chairman, no structure, no goal threat, very few decent players, a manager who has never managed before, fans who are divided, media that hates us, a club that people used to have a high regard for from a neutral perspective have changed thier minds and want us relegated, the officals hate us (pen after pen after sending off)and so on.

I say this with everything crossed and a large dollop of hope - if we go down and come back up a season later, it will do us good!

We are like an injured antelope at the minute, if it's not this season the lion gets us - then it will be next season!

Plus the F.A can have a big PARTY when we go down with Wigan and Blackpool. Three small clubs not wanted in the Premier League could be replaced by the might of Leeds and Cardiff.

[Mattyblue]

Cardiff, big club?

They are not fit to say our name.

[vintageadidas]

To the F.A they probably are!

A big club is defined as someone who fills their stadium. All we had to was build Ewood Park with a capacity of 22,000 - we would have been a "big club"

[cn_barlow]

I think we're a sinking ship now no matter who is in charge.

Replacing Kean now will get us more points by the end of the season, but i still cant see us staying up.

When we go down, im afraid that will be that.

Very sad.

[Mattyblue]

To the F.A they probably are!

A big club is defined as someone who fills their stadium. All we had to was build Ewood Park with a capacity of 22,000 - we would have been a "big club"

I agree with you there.

The fact we are never in the bottom 3 for attendances depsite often being from the smallest area is overlooked as there are GASP empty seats.