[Archived] Steve Kean

[Roost]

What a load of crap that article is. Mentioning Dunny & Phil Jones as being from round here, and they don't like to hear the negativity.

Let me remind Dunny that whilst I endured an embarrassing 4-1 defeat at Villa, he was watching it in a pub Great Harwood with his pals.

Actions speak louder than words - that goes for every player in the team and the manager.

That big thing at the end of the grass with the netting stuff around it is called a goal - just in case you have forgotten. Try and put the ball in it.

[broadsword]

I've heard Steve Kean is a great dancer and cooks a mean chilli con carne.

Can't manage for toffee, but never mind.

[Roost]

I've heard Steve Kean is a great dancer and cooks a mean chilli con carne.

Can't manage for toffee, but never mind.

[greco]

Is there a 'translate' button anywhere?

ill take that, as an admission of defeat.

[chris]

I'd love Nicko to answer Tony Gales Mic's post but he won't because it's easier to live in your own reality and avoid common sense.

I can honestly say anyone who was happy about Keans appointment must be a nut job after Kidd and Harford. We have been horribly burnt before.

It's sad how we knew this was coming, this could be the deepest scare.

ill take that, as an admission of defeat.

I agree that was the easy way out as usual

[John]

I'd argue that there were plenty of people, like me, who didn't want to give him a chance.

That wasn't because of any agenda, but it takes a very good manager to take a squad of largely pretty limited players to a position of comfort in that league.

Someone who was our first team coach and who had never managed before was highly unlikely to suddenly become a very good manager.

Obviously once he got appointed we supported him as manager of our club in that we wanted him to succeed, but we still didn't feel he should have had the chance to manage Blackburn Rovers.

Just read this post - sums things up pretty accurately.

[bob fleming]

Look everyone, the Kenatro client, totally inexperienced manager of ours, that is Steve Kean, is "a gem" of a manager. "Mirror Sport's transfer gossip specialist" Nicko told us so about two weeks ago.

Everything else we may believe is just "an agenda" - including the "fact" that we're on our worst run of results since 1986. I say "fact" because someone probably just made that up to make Venky's and Kean look bad. We should be thankful for Nicko's insight and the fact he takes the time to put us straight, and he's not even a Rovers fan! How lucky are we?!

Clearly no agenda from nicko's side then, all the pro Kean stuff is done because, er, erm... ? Well I'm at a loss. What could it possibly be?

90% want Kean sacked. The other 24 people? I'd suggest half of those are burnley fans, six are insane, one is Steve Kean and the others got over excited and just clicked the first option they came to. Still he does a great Presser. I'll remember that fact fondly when we're at home to Donny on a wet Tuesday in December and I'm sat there with 10,000 others.

[thenodrog]

It is odd that you look round the bottom half of the Premier League where EVERY club is in trouble and only one has had this level of tripe talked about it in the same period.

Wolves stay solid, West Ham have been less mental than usual, Wigan seem to have found a bit of fire, Blackpool are still in a state of shock about being there, Birmingham City know what they are.

Only Sunderland make murmurings and that is nothing on the scale of the 'noise' coming out about the new Rovers regime since they came in.

Odd.

Odd? Not when you view the form table it isn't. To continue our current curve will see us possibly relegated it will see us DEFINITELY relegated. That is not the case with some of those other clubs. We are only where we are cos of points gained under the previous manager. Under Kean all season we'd be well adrift at the bottom. You've been around long enough, you aren't thick and you damn well know this! The spin you are imparting on this issue might fool some of the shallower thinkers but it doesn't fool me.

[nicko]

Somebody said you wanted an answer to this.

Fair enough.

I'd argue that there were plenty of people, like me, who didn't want to give him a chance.

That wasn't because of any agenda, but it takes a very good manager to take a squad of largely pretty limited players to a position of comfort in that league.

Someone who was our first team coach and who had never managed before was highly unlikely to suddenly become a very good manager.

Obviously once he got appointed we supported him as manager of our club in that we wanted him to succeed, but we still didn't feel he should have had the chance to manage Blackburn Rovers.

So plenty of people - without having any knowledge of the guy - felt he wasn't worth a chance.

The 'very good manager' you are refering to is presumably Sam Allardyce.

Can I just ask...what striker did he think would be the answer to your prayers in January?

[thenodrog]

For the record, there is no 'special relationship' between the manager and me.

How about the manager's manager and you?

[Ricky]

Spot on Bob

[nicko]

Most of us were right and you were wrong on this one nicko.

There are many very valid reasons for the amount of "tripe" being talked about our club sadly.

As the Grand Master of Garbage on the owners, their advisers and any scare stories you could possibly come up with...I salute you.

[thenodrog]

Somebody said you wanted an answer to this.

Fair enough.

So plenty of people - without having any knowledge of the guy - felt he wasn't worth a chance.

The 'very good manager' you are refering to is presumably Sam Allardyce.

Can I just ask...what striker did he think would be the answer to your prayers in January?

You are becoming repetative with that silly and speculative argument. Why do you feel the need to repeat it ad infinitum? Allardyce was way ahead of the 40 point target without RSC. With him he wouldn't have done any worse. In fact whilst we are talking 'what if's' I'd wager RSC would have either scored or had a few assists by now under a manager who would known what to do with him.

[Silencio]

You are becoming repetative with that silly and speculative argument. Why do you feel the need to repeat it ad infinitum? Allardyce was way ahead of the 40 point target without RSC. With him he wouldn't have done any worse. In fact whilst we are talking 'what if's' I'd wager RSC would have either scored or had a few assists by now under a manager who would known what to do with him.

Bang on Theno.

Nicko constantly bringing up that RSC was wanted by Sam is absolutely irrelevant to where we are now. That's down to Nicko's mate...

[Roost]

Somebody said you wanted an answer to this.

Fair enough.

So plenty of people - without having any knowledge of the guy - felt he wasn't worth a chance.

The 'very good manager' you are refering to is presumably Sam Allardyce.

Can I just ask...what striker did he think would be the answer to your prayers in January?

For Gods sake, look at our record since Kean took over, then look at it again whilst imagining yourself as a Rovers fan, and that's starting to get somewhere close to understandin why 90% think he isn't up for the job.

Just sniping back at other posters with your reporters repertoire is becoming tedius.

A gem? really?

[chris]

It's dropping it's at 88% now soon it will be 50/50

Does anyone know if kean had been in charge all season based on his record how many points we would have?

[broadsword]

Not sure but over a course of a season it would be 33 if I recall rightly.

EDIT: We would be sat on 29 points, nailed-on candidates for the drop.

There's no excuses for the Kean debacle. He had the same strikers at his disposal that Allardyce had. He decisded to send Diouf on loan, he's not my favourite by any means but we clearly need him. He has not managed to get the best out of the players at his disposal and now we may well be going down.

The whole thing stinks and if anyone tries to pin our appalling form on anyone other than Kean, they're a fool to themselves or full of ######.

[chris]

That's better then I was expecting nearer 27

[sambo]

Is Nicko talking rubbish on purpose? We aren't mugs Alan.

He would have had less than 30 points if his results were projected over a season. Is that good enough?

What a load of crap that article is. Mentioning Dunny & Phil Jones as being from round here, and they don't like to hear the negativity.

Let me remind Dunny that whilst I endured an embarrassing 4-1 defeat at Villa, he was watching it in a pub Great Harwood with his pals.

Actions speak louder than words - that goes for every player in the team and the manager.

That big thing at the end of the grass with the netting stuff around it is called a goal - just in case you have forgotten. Try and put the ball in it.

And he was also sat in the Eagle in Barrow the other day with a pint and smoking a cigar apparently!

[Silencio]

Is Nicko talking rubbish on purpose? We aren't mugs Alan.

He would have had less than 30 points if his results were projected over a season. Is that good enough?

And he was also sat in the Eagle in Barrow the other day with a pint and smoking a cigar apparently!

Is anyone surprised? The "local hero" already left us once and came back because he knew he would have an easy time of things here, and he was right if you look at what he's done in the last four years. Check the way he went about getting his last contract extension and that tells you everything you need to know about him...

[John]

Santa Cruz under Sam/McDonald or Santa Cruz under Kean/Jensen - well considering he has been awful so far, and has not scored a goal yet, I think we can safely say he would perform slightly better under the former management team.

[chris]

Is anyone surprised? The "local hero" already left us once and came back because he knew he would have an easy time of things here, and he was right if you look at what he's done in the last four years. Check the way he went about getting his last contract extension and that tells you everything you need to know about him...

But that's why he was cheap, it's not like we haven't got exactly what it said on the tin

Had his moments still.

[Silencio]

But that's why he was cheap, it's not like we haven't got exactly what it said on the tin

Had his moments still.

Did he not cost a couple of million? Thought he did, I would have stayed clear at that price, not one of Hughes' better signings and he's a bad influence...

[chris]

Santa Cruz under Sam/McDonald or Santa Cruz under Kean/Jensen - well considering he has been awful so far, and has not scored a goal yet, I think we can safely say he would perform slightly better under the former management team.

Who knows he is an injury nightmare no matter where he goes, it's unsettling.

Did he not cost a couple of million? Thought he did, I would have stayed clear at that price, not one of Hughes' better signings and he's a bad influence...

I was pro signing Dunn a 27/28 year old former England international at only 2.1 million

Beggars can't be choosers

[imy9]

Santa Cruz under Sam/McDonald or Santa Cruz under Kean/Jensen - well considering he has been awful so far, and has not scored a goal yet, I think we can safely say he would perform slightly better under the former management team.

IMO he would not performed better, he is injured, you can see that every time he jumps for the ball or runs. The only difference is I think Sam would not have played him whilst injured- giving someone else a chance.