[Archived] Steve Kean

[Jimmy612]

Robinson

Salgado - Jones - Samba - Givet

Jones - Nzonzi - MGP

Hoilett - Olsson

RSC

This weekend we could potentially line up as above.

I do like that team, 4-5-1 being the best formation for our squad. It would have been great to have someone such as O'Hara or Ireland getting up and supporting aswell but instead we're looking to the future apparently.

RSC is unfortunately nowhere near fit, whether his medical was rigorous enough is certainly open to debate! Probably have Benjani up there instead.

[jim mk2]

Robinson

Salgado - Jones - Samba - Givet

Jones - Nzonzi - MGP

Hoilett - Olsson

RSC

This weekend we could potentially line up as above.

Is that a good team and even if is our best team have those players been available every week since January ?

The answer is no and no.

There are three or four positions where we have needed better players and more options but none were addressed properly in the January window.

[Brfcrule1]

Topman you state where are all these plethora of PL stars we could have signed that could have made a difference well if you look many clubs bought players on short term loan deals not many were permanent buys & yes 3.5M is a lot for an argentinian but lets be honest there were a plethora of stars we could have gone for who would have made a difference who we could have got for instance O'Hara-loan,R.Keane-loan,Sulley Muntari-loan,Gudjohnssen-loan,Krancjar-loan, T.Cleverley-loan,Bentley-loan,Ob.Martins-loan,El Mohammady-loan,Wellbeck-loan,Sturridge-loan,J.Carew-loan & probably a few more we could have acquired on loan deals till the end of the season & then tried getting them permanently in the summer even if we at least asked & competed to get even Krancjar & Gudjohnssen on loan till the end of the year we would have stood a good chance of getting them permanently in the summer & they would have improved the team no end and the chances are we would not be in this perilous position so to say there was not much about is not entirely accurate.

[USABlue]

Ince gave Ollson his big chance, Big Sam brought him up and Kean is getting the rewards for it, as for Hoilett it's pretty much the same Sam brought him up and taught him and now he's starting to shine.

Just about the response I expected. Funny thing is unless I have lost all memory Hoilett did not play that much under Sam and he certainly was not as offensive minded as he is now. So I suppose your answer to my question is no.

[thenodrog]

Let it go greco.

Got to say, Gav's 'END OF DISCUSSION' comment made me chuckle, he's a right pantomime dame these days.

'END OF DISCUSSION' for the second time

Oh no it isn't!

[thenodrog]

I don't think a single poster on this board (bar nicko) would have replaced Sam with a manager with zero experience.

Time and time again people who wanted Allardyce sacking were asked who was better and of those who would come to BRFC to replace him. Time and time again either any requests were ignored through expediency or no realistic / sensible choice was given. Instead of wheeling out softarsed excuses 'Look before you leap' might be the best advice some people should take on board from this entire fiasco.

[thenodrog]

Are you sure I said that?

Regardless, I was looking at Martin Jol or Martin O’Neill

Why those two? Been playing Championship manager again have you GAV? You mkust have known that both would need a lot of money to spend and both have inferior credentials to Allardyce. I doubt either would want to take the Blackburn job anyway, and especially not under the ownership of the Venkey mob and the all pervading influence of Kentaro. They and any manager of note would have been mad to take us on.

[thenodrog]

Like you say, Jones has been immense, and the type of player we've needed since Savage left.

Formica & Rochina are for the future, and Rochina has already shown signs of potential at this level.

Roque has cost nothing (besides his fat wages) and will go back to City shortly. Sam would've taken a chance on him too.

It's very difficult to find players who can hit the ground running in the PL. So, like I said, all things considered, not a bad window.

Not withstanding Jones has come good of late lets just stick to FACTS.

1. Regardless of the above players we are still very close to being relegated.

2. We were in a much better position in the league before any of the above players came.

[thenodrog]

Having seen Rochina in the reserves he's a player, mark my words.

Give Formica a pre-season before judging, and Allardyce was going to sign RSC you know

You missed out Jones, but you clearly agree that was a godd Kean purchase don't you?

Jones.. 'purchase' Gav? Have you forgotten that we only have him on loan? I doubt we'll see him again either after the end of the season is the 80kpw figure is true.

[thenodrog]

How about Mikel Arteta?

People thought he would be too lightweight for the PL, even the man the who signed him:

'We brought him in as a central midfield player and he looked a little bit lightweight for the Premier League,' said Moyes.

'He has played on the right and the left as well as the middle. He is versatile and we will continue to use him that way.

'Mikel is now competing and handling the pace of the game much better in the middle.'

Arteta? Everton 4-4-2? You're either having a laugh or you're showing your ignorance.

[BangkokRover]

You feeling OK?

Did you get out of the wrong side of bed, thenodrog?

[den]

Topman, on 05 May 2011 - 00:35 AM, said:

The manager wanted to sign him as a long-term prospect, the money was available, so he signed him.

..........

I don't think the manager had a clue who he was signing. Big problem.

[John]

Seeing as...

a. he had no previous transfer market experience

b. January is a s*** time to buy players, and

c. it's hard enough to buy proven players on a shoestring

Kean hasn't done too badly.

If you look at our current league positon, we are worse off after Kean's January signings.

[JAL]

Totally sick to death now with Cryer and the Lancs Telegraph printing quotes from various Rovers players saying that they are behind the manager and what an exciting future the club has.

[Gav]

Seeing as...

a. he had no previous transfer market experience

b. January is a s*** time to buy players, and

c. it's hard enough to buy proven players on a shoestring

Kean hasn't done too badly.

Kean did a great job in the transfer window, Jermaine Jones alone is testament to that, we've been trying to fill that position for years, and most people who are slagging Kean off also thought Jones was useless, which speaks volumes. We have an extremely exciting prospect in Rochina, all the reports says this lads going to be a player, and Formica is still getting to grips with the pace and physical side, but don’t write him off. RSC hasn’t worked, we all can agree on that, but I’d say Januarys window has been our most successful that I can remember.

So lets have the Kean didn’t buy these players cr@p blah blah blah.....

Totally sick to death now with Cryer and the Lancs Telegraph printing quotes from various Rovers players saying that they are behind the manager and what an exciting future the club has.

Have you considered this Jal, maybe, just maybe, they believe our future is bright, money coming in the summer etc, now there’s a thought!

[Mattyblue]

Do you beleive that Formica was a Kean signing Gav? He's never seen the lad play for one.

[Gav]

If you look at our current league positon, we are worse off after Kean's January signings.

Some people.....

[BangkokRover]

Kean did a great job in the transfer window, Jermaine Jones alone is testament to that, we've been trying to fill that position for years, and most people who are slagging Kean off also thought Jones was useless, which speaks volumes. We have an extremely exciting prospect in Rochina, all the reports says this lads going to be a player, and Formica is still getting to grips with the pace and physical side, but don’t write him off. RSC hasn’t worked, we all can agree on that, but I’d say Januarys window has been our most successful that I can remember.

So lets have the Kean didn’t buy these players cr@p blah blah blah.....

Sorry mate I have seen not a lot from JJ to suggest he is a quality player. Booked almost every game with out fail. Yes he did have a good game against Bolton who were poor. As for the two young players can't see what has been wrong with signing them. Sometimes young players workout some times they don't but lets give them to settle in the area and see what they can do next season.

Now on to RSC, a total waste of money which most Rovers fans would have told you. I mean the medical staff at Ewood must have cancelled all leave when he signed for Rovers. He had a wonder season and we sold him for a crazy amount.

[JAL]

Kean did a great job in the transfer window, Jermaine Jones alone is testament to that, we've been trying to fill that position for years, and most people who are slagging Kean off also thought Jones was useless, which speaks volumes. We have an extremely exciting prospect in Rochina, all the reports says this lads going to be a player, and Formica is still getting to grips with the pace and physical side, but don’t write him off. RSC hasn’t worked, we all can agree on that, but I’d say Januarys window has been our most successful that I can remember.

So lets have the Kean didn’t buy these players cr@p blah blah blah.....

Hello ! earth calling Gav.... earth calling Gav..... come in Gav we are concerned for you.

£2m blown on Cruz

£3.5 blown on a struggling Argie

= £5.5m totally wasted so how is that good, obviously we have totally different expectations.

[BangkokRover]

Do you beleive that Formica was a Kean signing Gav? He's never seen the lad play for one.

Don't think anyone on this board will be able to answer that question 100% to be truthful.

[Gav]

Do you beleive that Formica was a Kean signing Gav? He's never seen the lad play for one.

He's the manager Matty, has final say on transfers, unless you can show me different?

[RibbleValleyRover]

Kean did a great job in the transfer window, Jermaine Jones alone is testament to that, we've been trying to fill that position for years, and most people who are slagging Kean off also thought Jones was useless, which speaks volumes. We have an extremely exciting prospect in Rochina, all the reports says this lads going to be a player, and Formica is still getting to grips with the pace and physical side, but don’t write him off. RSC hasn’t worked, we all can agree on that, but I’d say Januarys window has been our most successful that I can remember.

So lets have the Kean didn’t buy these players cr@p blah blah blah.....

The RSC transfer ruined the window for me, the guy is being paid something like £90k per week and hasn't contributed anything to the team. It was no surprise to me that this outcome happened and I do know that Sam also wanted Roque so we would have signed him anyway- can't lay the blame on Kean.

Though if we had brought in another striker, one capable of staying fit and scoring goals we might have been clear of relegation some time ago.

Kean is likely to be gone after this campaign so it's going to be interesting to see what the new manager has in store, hopefully with some decent backing.

[Mattyblue]

He's the manager Matty, has final say on transfers, unless you can show me different?

Can you show me the proof that has Kean with last say of transfers?

also, if Allardyce had spent 5 and a half million on Santa Cruz and Formica- one hasnt kicked a ball, one finished, you'd be playing bloody hell about it- and you'd be right!

[davulsukur]

I think JJ is under rated and i agree with GAV that he has been a decent signing. With Dunny, Andrews and grella being alternatives to Jones and N'Zonzi in the middle, without JJ we would be screwed. P.Jones does well when asked to play there but we dont have that option at the moment.

I'd happily sign JJ on a permanent basis.

[Gav]

Hello ! earth calling Gav.... earth calling Gav..... come in Gav we are concerned for you.

£2m blown on Cruz

£3.5 blown on a struggling Argie

= £5.5m totally wasted so how is that good, obviously we have totally different expectations.

I think I said RSC didn't work, and you've never seen Formica play, so not sure how you can come to that conclusion, osmosis maybe

Jermaine Jones alone has had a major impact on proceedings, if we stay up would you not attribute some of that to him, saving us millions in the long run?