[Archived] Steve Kean

[RibbleValleyRover]

anyone who thought signing RSC on a loan deal was a bad idea in Jan is probably lying.

I don't think that is a stick to beat Kean with. I wanted RSC he was a gret player for us.

what about Hughes signing him for 17 million?

Check out the Roque Santa Cruz Return thread, plenty of people on their thought it was a bad idea. For example:

Not happy about this deal in all honesty and can't help but feel this is a huge waste of money.

I really hope I am proved wrong.

Back on the subject of Kean he deserves all the stick he is getting when it comes to results and performances. I also find it hilarious that he is now being seen as a good manager after beating a Bolton side without it's best player, had played three games in the week and away form is almost as bad as ours. Talk about fickle...

I wonder what some on here would have said about Kean, had Bolton's shot not hit the woodwork and instead went in, possibly seeing us draw or end up with a defeat?

[ada2020]

Check out the Roque Santa Cruz Return thread, plenty of people on their thought it was a bad idea. For example:

Back on the subject of Kean he deserves all the stick he is getting when it comes to results and performances. I also find it hilarious that he is now being seen as a good manager after beating a Bolton side without it's best player, had played three games in the week and away form is almost as bad as ours. Talk about fickle...

I wonder what some on here would have said had Bolton's shot not hit the woodwork and instead went in, possibly seeing us draw or end up with a defeat?

Probably something along the lines of "damn"..........

[blue_and_white]

What I find interesting with this thread is we seem to have two camps :-

1. Those who don't believe that Kean is responsible for all the world's woes - and that there have been some limited good things he has done. I will temper this - I get the impression that most in this camp would still have had him replaced by now.

2. Those that seem to argue that Kean is responsible for all the worlds woes starting from the Garden of Eden. Altogether not too dissimilar to the crusade that Vinjay had against the Walkers.

Obviously both camps show a passion for Rovers - but in different ways - all makes for an interesting debate

Amusingly biased description (despite falling into no.2, I just think he's an awful manager, something his results prove completely) but you're pretty much spot on that the 2 camps will never see eye to eye. Its the never-ending argument that has seemingly come to the fore in the last few years of good football vs practical football, fans who insist we must win pretty vs fans who just want to win. It dominates this thread, the Allardyce one, the one pinned up at the top of course, the champions league one (Barca v Real) and has come up in reference to the style we played on saturday in the Bolton thread.

I'm definitely an any way that works type of fan as I find it 100 times more enjoyable to see us score off a punted free kick than I do to see us fanny around with it in midfield for 5 minutes. Suprisingly it almost appears that so do most fans at the ground, I haven't heard any massive cheers for 10 successive short passes along the ground before. I assume the purists must always be ecstatic about it in their heads though, as being seen to be playing good football is of course the number one priority in any game.

[greco]

if kean had such a wonderfull time in januarys transfer window , it gotta wonder why we have continued, to drop down in the league table.

[Amo]

I also find it hilarious that he is now being seen as a good manager after beating a Bolton side without it's best player, had played three games in the week and away form is almost as bad as ours. Talk about fickle...

I'm not seeing it, though. Where are people saying that Kean is now a good manager? I think most people were just relieved that we got 3pts and that he hasn't lost the dressing room. Everyone accepts that Kean should be replaced in the summer.

if kean had such a wonderfull time in januarys transfer window , it gotta wonder why we have continued, to drop down in the league table.

So you don't think Jones has been a brilliant signing, and helped us win points under Kean? It's his lack of managerial nous that has seen us fall down the table, not his signings per se.

[chris]

I personally think the reason we fell down the league is still the damage of The Walker Trust lack of investment.

To start any season with Benjani, Kalinic, Roberts is exteremely dangerous.

As far as I am concerned I liked Sam because he could polish turds very well but I was not very comfortable with an extreme lack of investment for years now.

But I accept that Venkys wanted more then this, there timing was all wrong, but they are naive.

signing Jones and RSC for me were two good signings AS LOANS anyway.

I though RSC would have been much better, but hey he's a loan so he can sod off in the summer or stay for much less pennies.

As much as I'd like to blame everything on Kean, the players look very motivated to me and I think we are staying up.

[A cup of beans]

also, if Allardyce had spent 5 and a half million on Santa Cruz and Formica- one hasnt kicked a ball, one finished, you'd be playing bloody hell about it- and you'd be right!

santa cruz was a gamble that hasnt paid off... the same on a lesser scale could be said of mame diouf.

on formica ... seems harsh of you to critisise the formica signing just yet. he might come good.

remember it took MGP from august to jan to get back into the 1st team, after his debut miss against united.

[Mercer]

He doesn't half talk shyte!

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/9009502.I___ve_never_doubted_my_team__says_Blackburn_Rovers_boss/

“There is a cycle of change when any new manager comes in. There is the shock first of all then an acceptance. There is a cycle of change and I think we are coming out of that cycle. I think it just takes time and I think we are nearly there.”

Don't know where he thinks it up.

The 'cycle' didn't seem to apply to Liverpool with Dalglish & WBA with Woy boy.

Absolutely deluded, IMO.

[greco]

topman

So you don't think Jones has been a brilliant signing, and helped us win points under Kean? It's his lack of managerial nous that has seen us fall down the table, not his signings per se.

A) jones had an average start and has since done a good job. He has been an improvement and serioulsy, you would be hard pressed to find posters, who thinks otherwise

your post comes of really biased topman, when you only bother to mention 1 player out of 4.

C) you totally neglect that kean, was financially backed with a good amount of cash. 5 mill in straight up transfer money and some huge wage packages for loans. In general his dealings havent contributed with much so far.

d) Imo its a bit of both, he sucks as a manger and the january window was average.( not awfull, not good or great, just average). There is a but though, as rochina is young and could come good. That could make the window, in time, an above average one. hell if rochina ends up a class player, then we can label it good. If formica does good aswell he´s got 3 out of 4 and i wouldnt hesitate calling it great and i wouldnt have a problem with praising kean for it.

Does that seem unreasonable.?

[gumboots]

He doesn't half talk shyte!

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/9009502.I___ve_never_doubted_my_team__says_Blackburn_Rovers_boss/

“There is a cycle of change when any new manager comes in. There is the shock first of all then an acceptance. There is a cycle of change and I think we are coming out of that cycle. I think it just takes time and I think we are nearly there.”

Don't know where he thinks it up.

The 'cycle' didn't seem to apply to Liverpool with Dalglish & WBA with Woy boy.

Absolutely deluded, IMO.

Different situations though. Liverpool fans never wanted Hodgson in the first place and W Brom were right down there and needed a change. The timing of the change of manager at Rovers and the fact that, for all his faults, allardyce had not lost the fans' support or the confidence of the players meant that our scenario was totally different. there was shock from fans, players and other staff. Then most of the people who work with Kean have accepted that he is what they have got and therefore they are doing their best to work with him.

[Mattyblue]

He doesn't half talk shyte!

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/9009502.I___ve_never_doubted_my_team__says_Blackburn_Rovers_boss/

“There is a cycle of change when any new manager comes in. There is the shock first of all then an acceptance. There is a cycle of change and I think we are coming out of that cycle. I think it just takes time and I think we are nearly there.”

He must be have bee borrowwing books on leadership from the managers at my place...

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Amusingly biased description (despite falling into no.2, I just think he's an awful manager, something his results prove completely) but you're pretty much spot on that the 2 camps will never see eye to eye.

Sorry - I couldn't resist - at least the name Vinjay now brings amusement rather than just frustration and annoyance.

[Gav]

frustration and annoyance.

Whos frustrated and annoyed

[John]

He doesn't half talk shyte!

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/9009502.I___ve_never_doubted_my_team__says_Blackburn_Rovers_boss/

“There is a cycle of change when any new manager comes in. There is the shock first of all then an acceptance. There is a cycle of change and I think we are coming out of that cycle. I think it just takes time and I think we are nearly there.”

Don't know where he thinks it up.

The 'cycle' didn't seem to apply to Liverpool with Dalglish & WBA with Woy boy.

Absolutely deluded, IMO.

More classic quotes from our coach.

How does he know he has never managed a club?

[Gav]

He doesn't half talk shyte!

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/9009502.I___ve_never_doubted_my_team__says_Blackburn_Rovers_boss/

“There is a cycle of change when any new manager comes in. There is the shock first of all then an acceptance. There is a cycle of change and I think we are coming out of that cycle. I think it just takes time and I think we are nearly there.”

Don't know where he thinks it up.

The 'cycle' didn't seem to apply to Liverpool with Dalglish & WBA with Woy boy.

Absolutely deluded, IMO.

Nothing wrong with what keans saying there, for a side that’s been playing hoof ball for the past 2yrs, to change that style of play takes time, we saw he tried to change to quick, now we’re mixing it up, which is working better.

As for Liverpool, they had the little matter of paying almost 60m for players in January for goodness sake.

[BangkokRover]

Glasgow football managers 'taking over'

Funnily enough no mention of Kean, as he is the exact opposite of what the two pundits describe.

[John]

now we’re mixing it up, which is working better.

Are you referring to our last match?

[Kelbo]

The players have a comfort zone at the moment, like a pupil at school who love a teacher who lets them off detention or miss a homework assignment.

In football at the levels I have played at, there is the good cop/bad cop and unfortumately there doesnt appear to be a bad cop, who is the guy who pulls the job together.

Bit like in a work environment, when the boss is away, some managers let staff get away with much more but when he's back, the boss is the bad cop and people have to pull out the stops, we havent a bad cop at Rovers in that respect!

[Gav]

Are you referring to our last match?

Take your pick.

[BangkokRover]

Nothing wrong with what keans saying there, for a side that’s been playing hoof ball for the past 2yrs, to change that style of play takes time, we saw he tried to change to quick, now we’re mixing it up, which is working better.

As for Liverpool, they had the little matter of paying almost 60m for players in January for goodness sake.

The worrying thing from reading that they are talking as if those 3 points mean we are safe. I expect us to loose against both WHU and get thumped by United.

[Mattyblue]

So we didn't 'mix it up' before? We got to 10th in the table and on course for more of the same by wacking it up field to our (largely) useless strikers for two years?

[Gav]

The worrying thing from reading that they are talking as if those 3 points mean we are safe. I expect us to loose against both WHU and get thumped by United.

Not sure how you get to that conclusion, but I do agree we'll struggle Saturday and get thumped off United. The saviour in all of this is the teams around us are probably worse than we are which saves us.

[super_arran]

So we didn't 'mix it up' before? We got to 10th in the table and on course for more of the same by wacking it up field to our (largely) useless strikers for two years?

Yes, it was effective. We played hoofball most matches and played for freekicks, throw ins and corners.

I can't remember one game where we played attractive football with Sam as our manager.

[Mattyblue]

I was going to say 'but what's attractive football? is it not about winni....'

but we have been here time and time and again.

[super_arran]

I was going to say 'but what's attractive football? is it not about winni....'

but we have been here time and time and again.

Attractive football - quick; one touch passes, running at players, passing the ball around, "triangles", long shots etc.

Unattractive football - long ball hoofs from the back, playing the ball in to the box from every freekick, Jason Roberts, etc

Both can be effective