RevidgeBlue Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Just to say "I'm not saying I think its a good signing' does not anywhere near cut it. Of course it does.. Signing Anderson Jr. probably isn't the best idea in the world but even if he isn't up to much the worst thing that's occurred is cronyism, certainly not corruption and in no way does the matter bring the Club into disrepute as you claim.
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47er Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 I remember what I felt when we signed Julio Santa Cruz. I thought we were being pragmatic. I didn't know JW had brought the club into disrepute through nepotism. Thanks for enlightening me. I agree we were being pragmatic too. Santa Cruz was our star player and anything we could do to make him settle and stay was in the club's interest. I knew nothing about the talents of the young lad but assumed somebody thought he had potential. However please tell me what can be said in favour of Myles Anderson's transfer? How is this in the club's interest? What potential is there in this one? You're totally ignoring the relationship between Kean and his agent which looks to be at the crux of this signing. This transfer is not the same as the previous. PS---enlightening you is beyond my capabilities.
47er Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Of course it does.. Signing Anderson Jr. probably isn't the best idea in the world but even if he isn't up to much the worst thing that's occurred is cronyism, certainly not corruption and in no way does the matter bring the Club into disrepute as you claim. We'll have to disagree. I'm sure the young lad who has to make way for him has a stronger word for it.
BuckyRover Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 I agree we were being pragmatic too. Santa Cruz was our star player and anything we could do to make him settle and stay was in the club's interest. I knew nothing about the talents of the young lad but assumed somebody thought he had potential. However please tell me what can be said in favour of Myles Anderson's transfer? How is this in the club's interest? What potential is there in this one? You're totally ignoring the relationship between Kean and his agent which looks to be at the crux of this signing. This transfer is not the same as the previous. PS---enlightening you is beyond my capabilities. It is exactly the same. A player was signed not for his ability, but for his relationship with somebody else already the club. Nepotism. I didn't go crazy about Cruz and I'm not going to go crazy about this. I don't like it, but it happens.
pick32 Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Personally id rather Mclaren than Kean. But at least Kean got a positive result at weekend and 3 points just a shame it was on his license.
3rdpillar Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Come on then, who bubbled him ?? What do you mean "bubbled" ? Champagne, added something to his drink ?
47er Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 It is exactly the same. A player was signed not for his ability, but for his relationship with somebody else already the club. Nepotism. I didn't go crazy about Cruz and I'm not going to go crazy about this. I don't like it, but it happens. We don't know this was the only motive in Cruz's case. I'm certain it was in Anderson's. Over and out.
BuckyRover Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 We don't know this was the only motive in Cruz's case. I'm certain it was in Anderson's. Over and out. I suppose so. The Peruvian league is well known for churning out Premier league players.
LeChuck Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 So what if Julio was signed to keep Roque happy? He was our star player at the time, nothing wrong with trying to safeguard your prize assets. Signing Myles Anderson is totally different. Why should we be trying to keep a football agent happy? Two utterly different situations.
onlyonejackwalker Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Kean is the fool (as I've said already) whereas you are the sanctimonious git. I would love to live in your world, where somebody who is slightly under the limit is totally fine whereas someone who is slightly over it is a monster. unfortunately I'm not that simple Sanctimonious git? Ok Charlie, no worries, you sit there calling me names and acting the big man. Feeling better now? Unfortunately for you, this post clearly demonstrates just how simple you are. I don't drink. Got that now? I don't like drink drivers. Got that now? I don't agree with drink driving. Caught up yet? I think it is irresponsible. Are you still here? I don't think even slightly under the limit is acceptable, but stupidly you try and put words into my mouth even though you can't find those comments from me anywhere to re-post. My dislike for Kean has nothing to do with my view on this subject. Maybe your love of Kean has everything to do with your replies. So who is the simpleton? Ermm. I will let you try and work it out for yourself and we can resume this is in a few days, if and when you have grasped it properly.
John Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 So what if Julio was signed to keep Roque happy? He was our star player at the time, nothing wrong with trying to safeguard your prize assets. Signing Myles Anderson is totally different. Why should we be trying to keep a football agent happy? Two utterly different situations. We have got Kean & Jensen to be thankful for.
Mercer Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 So what if Julio was signed to keep Roque happy? He was our star player at the time, nothing wrong with trying to safeguard your prize assets. Signing Myles Anderson is totally different. Why should we be trying to keep a football agent happy? Two utterly different situations. Absolutely hit the nail on the head!
JonnyH Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 What do you mean "bubbled" ? Champagne, added something to his drink ? I speak 1864roverite. It means 'who shopped him' / 'fingered him' / 'tipped off the old bill'
3rdpillar Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 I speak 1864roverite. It means 'who shopped him' / 'fingered him' / 'tipped off the old bill' maybe 1864 knows something he is wanting to tell us, but feels he can't?
Gally Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 If Venkey's are serious about putting a few quid into the squad then McClaren would be an excellent choice for me. If you put the shocking spell in charge of England to one side, which doesn't really compare to the Rovers job, we'd all be ectatic about getting a manager with his record at Ewood.
chris Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 If Venkey's are serious about putting a few quid into the squad then McClaren would be an excellent choice for me. If you put the shocking spell in charge of England to one side, which doesn't really compare to the Rovers job, we'd all be ectatic about getting a manager with his record at Ewood. he spent a lot of money at Boro and did nothing but stay mid table with a league cup win which midtable teams often win. Then as a coach he was useless for England. He's only done well in some of Europes weaker leagues.
jim mk2 Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 he spent a lot of money at Boro and did nothing but stay mid table with a league cup win which midtable teams often win. Then as a coach he was useless for England. He's only done well in some of Europes weaker leagues. Better CV than the present incumbent don't you think ? McClaren is looking to return to English football and Rovers would be perfect for him and us. He will have great contacts within the game from his days at ManU and England and players will want to come to the club to play for him. Better choice than Benitez
RibbleValleyRover Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 he spent a lot of money at Boro and did nothing but stay mid table with a league cup win which midtable teams often win. Then as a coach he was useless for England. He's only done well in some of Europes weaker leagues. He also made it to the Uefa Cup final don't forget. McClaren wouldn't be my number one choice but i would take him over Kean.
RoyRover Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 If Venkey's are serious about putting a few quid into the squad then McClaren would be an excellent choice for me. If you put the shocking spell in charge of England to one side, which doesn't really compare to the Rovers job, we'd all be ectatic about getting a manager with his record at Ewood. McClaren would be a better option than Kean. Hell, Avram Grant would be a better option! However, he wouldn't be at the top of my list of managers and if the owners are serious about taking the club forward someone better is needed. He did very well at FC Twente by winning the Eredivise and should probably have stayed on there. He jumped ship and went to a big club like Wolfsburg and was a complete flop and nearly got them relegated, despite have a very talented squad to chose from. I don't see him taking Blackburn forward.
Kelbo Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 I suppose so. The Peruvian league is well known for churning out Premier league players. I assume you mean Uraguay? As are the Scottish reserve leagues!!!
alexanders Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 McClaren would be a better option than Kean. Hell, Avram Grant would be a better option!
chris Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 He also made it to the Uefa Cup final don't forget. McClaren wouldn't be my number one choice but i would take him over Kean. Yes I watched the game and they were totally destoryed. amazing he got the England job probably because he got to a final and thrashed.
BuckyRover Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 I assume you mean Uraguay? As are the Scottish reserve leagues!!! Nope. I meant Paraguay.
blue_and_white Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 he spent a lot of money at Boro and did nothing but stay mid table with a league cup win which midtable teams often win. Then as a coach he was useless for England. He's only done well in some of Europes weaker leagues. Thought this was a bit harsh on Schteve at first but having done a bit of digging you make some good points. He spent £55m in total in his 5 seasons at Boro and his average league position for them was 11th, which is probably a similar amount to what he'd have to spend at Rovers and not a particularly impressive return on it. Was brilliant at Twente but as you said Holland is a minor league, and then Wolfburg sacked him. Still think winning the League Cup is impressive, 4 mid-table sides have managed it in the last 10 years so its not massively common. And then there's the UEFA final of course. I think overall he'd be decent enough but I wouldn't have him as a first choice. The fact that spending £11m a season and finishing mid-table can be considered decent just shows what an amazing job Sam was doing. Highlighting the extremely irritating fact that even if Venkys do twist they're unlikely to hire a guy even on a par with one they've already sacked.
Ozz Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Steve Maclaren? One word-Massimo Maccarone. "Maclaren wins hand in Vastly Overpriced Crap Italian Striker Purchases Top Trumps game against Graeme Souness."
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