[Archived] Steve Kean

[cruz]

The owners will forever regret those stupid comments. Hopefully they know a bit more now than they did then. However that quote will be regurgitated forever. Silly billys

[rovers_rob]

Steve Kean has said at his pre-match press conference that after the talks in India this week, he will have a healthy transfer budget, targeting a top 10 finish in the Premier League.

I have been trying my best to give Steve Kean a chance all season but he really needs to learn to keep quiet about stuff like this.

No other manager would come out with statements about next seasons budget a couple of days before we go in to such an important game that could see us relegated.

He needs to stop trying to win people over by what he is saying. For crying out loud just get the result on Sunday and get safe.

If a journo asks you the question just reply with the usual "I am not prepared to discuss transfer budgets or signings until after Sunday"

Or better still, just go and sign the sodding players. We don't need to hear all of this constant spin.

Come on Steve, think about what you are saying !!

[blue_and_white]

Steve Kean has said at his pre-match press conference that after the talks in India this week, he will have a healthy transfer budget, targeting a top 10 finish in the Premier League.

Well its nice to hear Kean/Venkys say something vaguely realistic for once. Still puts unmerited faith in Kean's ability to improve dramatically as a manager but at least its possible.

Annoying though (as others have mentioned) that we now have to spend a considerable amount of money to put us back to exactly where we were before Venkys senseless meddling. If we do finish around 10th next season, a heck of an achievement at this stage, we've still completely wasted 2 seasons where we could have been progressing. 6 months of embarassment, stress and the very edge of relegation, and a year of recovering from this mess.

All because of this obssesion with good football.

[cruz]

All because of this obssesion with good football.

I always considered it their lack of faith in the last manager to spend their money (Kalinic and Chimbonda, to name but two, £9m down the swanny)............but then they appointed Kean and then they lost me

[Mercer]

That’s rich coming from someone who’s contributions since joining the site have done nothing but set hares running in all directions with lye after lye mercerman. Whilst I have some respect for the other posters you mention, you I’m afraid I have none. I have never questioned your integrity and would ask that you be very careful with your aspersions.

“Hoilett faking injury due to his impending move just down the road” being a good example of many I could post I have never, never said that.I have flagged this with you before about misquoting people. You are very fond of asking people to produce the evidence and I would challenge you to do the same with regards to the comment about faking injury that you attribute to me.

As for people like Philipl, BPF and Kelbo, if they post rumour and speculation I have nothing against that, but in some cases its starting to come across as a little patronising from time to time, and I can see why a few are getting annoyed.

Some posters claim to have vital information about the future of the club, yet can’t break news about impending bung cases, new board members, new assistant managers and run of the mill stuff like that, even I was aware of the Givet stuff, and I know nobody in media or Rovers circles.

So lets have a little perspective should we. Firstly, a little less cynicism and attitude from yourself would be a start. Respect the rights of others to post their opinions, if you disagree then you can always try to rationailse your view. Some of the stuff that you have posted about Sam and Kean etc, I personally and I suspect many others judging from their comments, have found incredulous, however, your right to express your opinion has been respected without people resorting to personal insult.

[davulsukur]

Although i agree, we have gone backwards, i find it difficult to see that we would have made any progress under Allardyce. Somewhere in between 10th - 14th is where i would expect us to finish most seasons with him around, but i didnt see much in the way of progression under him.

Maybe we have to take 1 step back to take 2 forward.

[47er]

Why?

Jones has been awesome. Formica and Rochina look like they will be real players next season.

Roque has been poor but he was always worth a shout as he actually wanted to come back.

I'm not saying he will do as well as Hughes but he didn't do bad considering January is known as an awful time to make signings.

How does Formica look like he'll be a real player next season? He hasn't featured in any Premier League game since he came! Not even for a minute!

He's played in the reserves but hasn't had great wraps for that!

[chris]

Although i agree, we have gone backwards, i find it difficult to see that we would have made any progress under Allardyce. Somewhere in between 10th - 14th is where i would expect us to finish most seasons with him around, but i didnt see much in the way of progression under him.

Maybe we have to take 1 step back to take 2 forward.

I hope its only 1 step and not 100 steps come sunday

[47er]

Its either "others have found incredible" or "others have been left incredulous". Sorry.

[Inta Beaver]

Steve Kean has said at his pre-match press conference that after the talks in India this week, he will have a healthy transfer budget, targeting a top 10 finish in the Premier League.

I've watched his interview on SSN, he flew to India for meeting and came back the same day (I bet he sank a few on plane) he says the owners are going the Wolves game! Why travel all over the world when you could be preparing your team for it's biggest game in years! Have your meeting when they are over here! What has changed in 5 days! I bet he was kissing some behinds over in India!

He also says the owners are giving the fans vouchers at the game for food and drink, nice touch!

Oh and at this meeting relegation was never talked about??? It's a possibility! A strong one!

As for a budget for next season, top 10 will require £30m. Stoke, Sunderland, and Villa will spend big and they already have better squads than us. If we stay up the summer will be interesting for Rovers

[sparkspakespoke]

Why wouldn't I give it to Kean? Just in case you've missed it Bucky, he's taken us to the edge of relegation. I fear if he's here next season we wont be so lucky.

Dont get me wrong, I fear for us if Kean remains in charge, however I dont think being a good manage and being able to pick a good player always go hand in hand and vice versa.

Megson at Bolton signed some very good players, he just couldnt set a team up to win. Sam who did a great job at setting teams up and getting the best out of players didnt always make the best signings

The players Kean brought in, with the exception of Santa, have either played a big part for us or could do next season and after.

So while I hope Kean is replaced at the end of the year its not because oI fear he'll waste a transfer budget.

[Hughesy]

As for a budget for next season, top 10 will require £30m. Stoke, Sunderland, and Villa will spend big and they already have better squads than us. If we stay up the summer will be interesting for Rovers

Are you serious??

A good manager, with the addition of one or two loan players could easily crack 10th place.

30m is more like if you want to try and crack 6th.

[blue_and_white]

I agree Sam's record in the transfer market wasn't the best, but I think we'd have seen a substantial improvement with some money to play with. Some managers are geniuses at operating on a shoestring (Hughes for example), others need a bit of backing. Sam got that at Bolton and signed some phenomenal players, to this day I don't know how they got Anelka. We know Guti and Raul had been persuaded to sign but the Trust wouldn't pay their wages, who knows who Sam could have got with owners that would.

However I'm struggling to see how Kean's record has been any better based on January. The way I see it he's signed 1 good player and 3 flops. Santa Cruz was a tad unlucky, I think all of us had high hopes he'd rediscover his form, but he still has to go down as a flop, around £2m in wages for zero return. Formica, well what can you say, £3.5m and can't even make the bench. The lad's 23, what excuse can there be behind his total exclusion other than Kean has seen him in training and he's not good enough? Rochina, poor against Fulham, poor against City, probably the best of a very bad bunch against Everton.

[chris]

I agree Sam's record in the transfer market wasn't the best, but I think we'd have seen a substantial improvement with some money to play with. Some managers are geniuses at operating on a shoestring (Hughes for example), others need a bit of backing. Sam got that at Bolton and signed some phenomenal players, to this day I don't know how they got Anelka. We know Guti and Raul had been persuaded to sign but the Trust wouldn't pay their wages, who knows who Sam could have got with owners that would.

However I'm struggling to see how Kean's record has been any better based on January. The way I see it he's signed 1 good player and 3 flops. Santa Cruz was a tad unlucky, I think all of us had high hopes he'd rediscover his form, but he still has to go down as a flop, around £2m in wages for zero return. Formica, well what can you say, £3.5m and can't even make the bench. The lad's 23, what excuse can there be behind his total exclusion other than Kean has seen him in training and he's not good enough? Rochina, poor against Fulham, poor against City, probably the best of a very bad bunch against Everton.

Jone has been excellent

Rochina he is 19 and cost £500,000, I don't consider that a flop, we were probably 10th when we signed him, sure it was planned for the future, he is way too green but I think it might turn out a very good signing. I don't think he was really a Kean signing more a "your going to buy him".

Formica is classed as a flop but still I'm happy to give him more time, 3.5 million is still not a lot of money and I think he might have played if we were not so desperate for results, giving him 5 or 6 games to settle not possible.

Still he's from Argentina, got falir young, called up to Argentina squad, its better then signing Keith Andrews.

I hope he's not a light wieght, he sure looks it.

Santa, total flop BUT worth the gamble, its only a loan, there was no fee, two years ago he cost 17 million and he's 29, a few smart people guessed he might flop but we all remember Santa being great.

Really we could have done with a few proven PL players but the fee's in the window were embarrassing, its a hard time to do business, Chelsea ending up paying 50 millon for a sand bag.

[Inta Beaver]

Are you serious??

A good manager, with the addition of one or two loan players could easily crack 10th place.

30m is more like if you want to try and crack 6th.

For us to break into the top half we are going to need a serious goal scorer, they don't come cheap, £30m is a fair bit high, but my main point is other teams that are better equipped than us now will be spending this summer. The top 7 of the prem league will be the same next year so that leaves 3 places. That will take some cash!

[RibbleValleyRover]

Steve Kean has said at his pre-match press conference that after the talks in India this week, he will have a healthy transfer budget, targeting a top 10 finish in the Premier League.

Kean can dream all he likes we won't get a top 10 finish under his management.

[philipl]

The big issue assuming we stay up is will the likes of Samba, Jones, Jones and Hoilett stay at Ewood?

Slim chance under an established manager, zero chance under Kean.

[chaddyrovers]

Kean is not a good manager. Why don't the owners get this. he is useless.

we need a very good manager in the summer with a good management record and also able to attract good players to come in the summer.

We need to keep Samba, P Jones, Hoilett, Olsson, Robinson at rovers in the summer.

Plus we need to sign up Jermaine Jones in the summer.

[Ricky]

The big issue assuming we stay up is will the likes of Samba, Jones, Jones and Hoilett stay at Ewood?

Slim chance under an established manager, zero chance under Kean.

So if Kean stays there is zero chance that Samba, Jones, Jones and Hoilett will stay. Nothing like posting opinion as fact eh Phil.

What a load of rubbish. Didn't Kean bring Jones to the club in the first place???

Might be time to step down from the one man crusade.

[chris]

Kean is not a good manager. Why don't the owners get this. he is useless.

we need a very good manager in the summer with a good management record and also able to attract good players to come in the summer.

We need to keep Samba, P Jones, Hoilett, Olsson, Robinson at rovers in the summer.

Plus we need to sign up Jermaine Jones in the summer.

Are you looking for another reason other then they know nothing about football?

[chaddyrovers]

Daily mail article about Kean and next season and how much we got to spend

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1389161/Steve-Kean-contemplating-Blackburn-relegation.html

Kean wouldn't be my choice for the manager position but if the owners want him then fine then.

But Kean or whoever is in charge need to bring in quality players.

We need a back up right back and left back, sign J Jones permanent, striker who has proven in the premier league like Ba or Sturridge. Maybe sign another striker depending on what formations the manager is going to play.

[chris]

Daily mail article about Kean and next season and how much we got to spend

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1389161/Steve-Kean-contemplating-Blackburn-relegation.html

Kean wouldn't be my choice for the manager position but if the owners want him then fine then.

But Kean or whoever is in charge need to bring in quality players.

We need a back up right back and left back, sign J Jones permanent, striker who has proven in the premier league like Ba or Sturridge. Maybe sign another striker depending on what formations the manager is going to play.

I would say healthy is £15 million to 25 million

better not be 5 million, it won;t only the doom and gloom'ers will still go for that.

God having money to spend, how I've dreams of this since about 2002

Heopfully not wasted like Hodgson and Kidd did

[blue_and_white]

Jone has been excellent

Rochina he is 19 and cost £500,000, I don't consider that a flop, we were probably 10th when we signed him, sure it was planned for the future, he is way too green but I think it might turn out a very good signing. I don't think he was really a Kean signing more a "your going to buy him".

Formica is classed as a flop but still I'm happy to give him more time, 3.5 million is still not a lot of money and I think he might have played if we were not so desperate for results, giving him 5 or 6 games to settle not possible.

Still he's from Argentina, got falir young, called up to Argentina squad, its better then signing Keith Andrews.

I hope he's not a light wieght, he sure looks it.

Santa, total flop BUT worth the gamble, its only a loan, there was no fee, two years ago he cost 17 million and he's 29, a few smart people guessed he might flop but we all remember Santa being great.

Really we could have done with a few proven PL players but the fee's in the window were embarrassing, its a hard time to do business, Chelsea ending up paying 50 millon for a sand bag.

I'd probably just about agree on Jones being excellent, I think he's had as many average games as he has MOTM ones but he's certainly better than what we had there before and if we can sign him permanently then a bit more consistency and he should be superb next season.

Maybe being a bit harsh on Rochina, young lad and all that, and he didn't cost much. That probably doesn't class as a good or bad signing at this point.

I think 3.5m is a decent amount in today's market, its certainly enough to expect Formica to justify his fee with a decent contribution. There's always the argument that the manager is unfairly overlooking him but considering he's a Kean signing and can't even get on the bench I find that very unlikely. Seems likely to me that Kean's watching him in training and thinking "uh oh, that was a mistake, this lad is definitely not suited to CM in the Premiership". Fingers crossed he will come good next season, waste of money so far though.

I agree we needed some experience in the premier league and when the likes of Sturridge, Ba, Bentley etc were available it seems like Kean picked the wrong option going for a couple of unproven south american youngsters. Maybe being a bit too critical though, he's still a largely unknown quantity in the transfer market. I'm more concerned that he isn't the right manager in terms of results than that he'd waste any money Venkys gave him. It would be harder to attract a replacement if we had no money to give him because it had already been spent on players to the previous managers liking.

[RibbleValleyRover]

So if Kean is staying does that mean we are going to sign Roque 'no goals' Cruz on a perm deal? Earlier in the season he said he would do all he could in the summer to get him on a long term deal...

[chris]

I'd probably just about agree on Jones being excellent, I think he's had as many average games as he has MOTM ones but he's certainly better than what we had there before and if we can sign him permanently then a bit more consistency and he should be superb next season.

Maybe being a bit harsh on Rochina, young lad and all that, and he didn't cost much. That probably doesn't class as a good or bad signing at this point.

I think 3.5m is a decent amount in today's market, its certainly enough to expect Formica to justify his fee with a decent contribution. There's always the argument that the manager is unfairly overlooking him but considering he's a Kean signing and can't even get on the bench I find that very unlikely. Seems likely to me that Kean's watching him in training and thinking "uh oh, that was a mistake, this lad is definitely not suited to CM in the Premiership". Fingers crossed he will come good next season, waste of money so far though.

I agree we needed some experience in the premier league and when the likes of Sturridge, Ba, Bentley etc were available it seems like Kean picked the wrong option going for a couple of unproven south american youngsters. Maybe being a bit too critical though, he's still a largely unknown quantity in the transfer market. I'm more concerned that he isn't the right manager in terms of results than that he'd waste any money Venkys gave him. It would be harder to attract a replacement if we had no money to give him because it had already been spent on players to the previous managers liking.

Maybe Kean had banked on Santa Cruz having more of an impact to cover the development of Formica and Rochina.

If we had a firing Santa we would be mid table probably. Shadow of his former self. but I would have signed him on loan at least in Jan. No goals in 5 months, I didn't predict that.

Like you said Formica's not that young and he looks light weight.

Still not ready to class him as a flop, but I don't remember little juninho at boro sitting in the reverses. Worrying he has not had any impact.