[Archived] Steve Kean

[patrickvalery]

Daily mail article about Kean and next season and how much we got to spend

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1389161/Steve-Kean-contemplating-Blackburn-relegation.html

Those are some big big noises from Kean. I sincerely hope Venky's are true to their word. Sweeping statements about competing financially with the top ten etc, will further dirty their name if they don't come to fruition.

Some while ago someone on here said Steve Kean wasn't a lucky manager. Well, if his job his safe and he has some serious wedge at his disposal in the summer, he must be one of the luckiest managers in football!

[gumboots]

So if Kean stays there is zero chance that Samba, Jones, Jones and Hoilett will stay. Nothing like posting opinion as fact eh Phil.

What a load of rubbish. Didn't Kean bring Jones to the club in the first place???

Might be time to step down from the one man crusade.

I agree with you here. Whilst Philip has some information about the club and its owners he seems to take every possible opportunity to post doom and gloom as fact when who would leave is a matter of opinion. Nobody knows at the moment what will happen and who will still be here and who will be off. I don't blame Samba if he goes and as long as we get his true market value I don't think we could really complain. He wants to win something - no chance at Spurs or Arsenal however - and feels he deserves a chance elsewhere and in view of his sterling efforts in the last few weeks I, for one, wouldn't begrudge him a move (although I'd rather he stayed) The others however? I don't know. You don't know, and for all his insider info, I don't believe Philip actually does either because I don't think even the players know or have made their minds up about anything yet.

[Gav]

The big issue assuming we stay up is will the likes of Samba, Jones, Jones and Hoilett stay at Ewood?

Slim chance under an established manager, zero chance under Kean.

Absolute BUNKUM philipl - J Jones is a Kean signing for goodness sake, how you can make such an assumption is laughable.

[gumboots]

Absolute BUNKUM philipl - J Jones is a Kean signing for goodness sake, how you can make such an assumption is laughable.

You've been dying for another opportunity to use the B word!

[bonerdude]

And J Jones is only a loan remember and from what i heard shalke want him back.

[Amo]

The big issue assuming we stay up is will the likes of Samba, Jones, Jones and Hoilett stay at Ewood?

Slim chance under an established manager, zero chance under Kean.

I don't think it ultimately makes much difference.

Wave enough cash under a player's nose and the opportunity of top-flight football and they'll bite.

[Kelbo]

I don't think it ultimately makes much difference.

Wave enough cash under a player's nose and the opportunity of top-flight football and they'll bite.

Ask Shearer, he came to Rovers because of Dalglish, money was secondary, I have this first hand from the man himself.

[Amo]

Ask Shearer, he came to Rovers because of Dalglish, money was secondary, I have this first hand from the man himself.

Different era of football, Kelbo.

Besides, I'm not saying managers aren't sometimes a vital factor, but in most cases, so long as the player has the right deal, they won't care too much who's in charge - unless they have previous.

[bob fleming]

I don't think it ultimately makes much difference.

Wave enough cash under a player's nose and the opportunity of top-flight football and they'll bite.

Join the Steve Kean revolution? (If we make it of course). I don't think so. Kelbo is right, get the man at the top right and they'll join.

Let's be honest and you're right as well Topman, it is a different era. You can join any Premier League club on a 3 year contract as a player and be made for life. But get the chance to play for a manager who you actually believe in? Who has been there and done it? You'll be lucky. That's where the Chicken People should be concentrating their efforts. If we stay up of course. Otherwise....

Kenny comes a calling for Samba? What's gonna happen? Same with Jones?

Offer me slightly less and I know where I'd rather be (as a player), still made for life of course. That's the reality of it all. Our current manager is a complete nothing. Nowt. Believe what you like, pretend he might come good, it ain't gonna happen here. Who'd sign for him with a choice between us and another top flight club in the summer for the sake of a few extra grand?

It's the MacKay / Dalglish situation all over again at the very best. If indeed they are loaded, here for the long term, paid off the mortgage they took out at Christmas, and buying Gary "Mouth" Nevilles house, it'll mean nothing if they stick with Kean as manager of Blackburn Rovers.

Anyway, bring on Sunday, that's all that matters, this sort of talk can wait.

[sparkspakespoke]

Ask Shearer, he came to Rovers because of Dalglish, money was secondary, I have this first hand from the man himself.

The money was also equal to anything if would have got any where else. Dalglish might not have been the deciding factor if it ment earning 50% less.

[Amo]

Join the Steve Kean revolution? (If we make it of course). I don't think so. Kelbo is right, get the man at the top right and they'll join.

So far, Kean has signed Santa Cruz and Jermaine Jones, two experienced players who have played under top managers.

Formica is a highly-rated young South American, and Ruben Rochina had the option to stay in Spain, yet both of these players found their way to Rovers.

So, that's a blend of youth and experience that Kean was able to attract here. Or perhaps, as I've said, it had very little to do with the manager in the first place.

[jim mk2]

Ask Shearer, he came to Rovers because of Dalglish, money was secondary, I have this first hand from the man himself.

I don't agree. It was the talk of football that Jack Walker was raising the bar with regards to pay. The presence of Dalglish helped to attract players of course, but then he was only at Ewood because Walker made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

It's a different situation now. All the top clubs pay well - including Rovers - so players have to be attracted to a club for another reason, one of which is a respected, high-profile manager. As has been pointed out, top quality players or even better than average ones are unlikely to come to Ewood while a nobody like Kean is in charge.

[Kelbo]

I don't agree. It was the talk of football that Jack Walker was raising the bar with regards to pay. The presence of Dalglish helped to attract players of course, but then he was only at Ewood because Walker made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

It's a different situation now. All the top clubs pay well - including Rovers - so players have to be attracted to a club for another reason, one of which is a respected, high-profile manager. As has been pointed out, top quality players or even better than average ones are unlikely to come to Ewood while a nobody like Kean is in charge.

Jim,

I was in the company at a local cricket match years ago with Chris Sutton, Shearer was there and the offer from Man U was similar to that of Rovers, however, Dalglish was one of Shearers idols and that swung it.

Likewise, Ivan Compo was so complimentary about Allardyce, was one of the things which swung the Salgado transfer!!

[Amo]

Jim,

I was in the company at a local cricket match years ago with Chris Sutton, Shearer was there and the offer from Man U was similar to that of Rovers, however, Dalglish was one of Shearers idols and that swung it.

Likewise, Ivan Compo was so complimentary about Allardyce, was one of the things which swung the Salgado transfer!!

The same Salgado who's just signed a new contract?

You'd think he'd want out of this two-bit operation with a nobody in charge.

[Steve Moss]

Steve Kean has said at his pre-match press conference that after the talks in India this week, he will have a healthy transfer budget, targeting a top 10 finish in the Premier League.

We had a top 10 finish last year, WITHOUT a healthy transfer budget. I'd expect a bit more if I were the owners, and assuming Kean is Allardyce's equal or better (which he isn't).

[tony gale's mic]

The same Salgado who's just signed a new contract?

You'd think he'd want out of this two-bit operation with a nobody in charge.

The initial reason why Salgado came to Rovers was because of the Sam recommendation.

You're trying to (once again) erroneously put an argument into other peoples mouths. I know you've got a habit of doing so, but Salgado signing a new contract because he's getting regular game time and feels settled in the area is a different kettle of fish to him coming in the first place.

[Amo]

The initial reason why Salgado came to Rovers was because of the Sam recommendation.

You're trying to (once again) erroneously put an argument into other peoples mouths. I know you've got a habit of doing so, but Salgado signing a new contract because he's getting regular game time and feels settled in the area is a different kettle of fish to him coming in the first place.

The point is that with Kean in charge we won't be able to attract good players because he's a nobody.

Yet a top pro like Salgado has decided to stay on. Surely he'd want out without a respected manager in charge?

[chris]

The point is that with Kean in charge we won't be able to attract good players because he's a nobody.

Yet a top pro like Salgado has decided to stay on. Surely he'd want out without a respected manager in charge?

Salgado is a very old man in football terms, he couldn't do better then Blackburn.

Probably happy just to play.

[tony gale's mic]

The point is that with Kean in charge we won't be able to attract good players because he's a nobody.

Yet a top pro like Salgado has decided to stay on. Surely he'd want out without a respected manager in charge?

There's a massive difference between someone who's at the end of their career, who is settled and happy somewhere and who opts to stay at that place, versus someone who is in the prime of their career choosing between a bunch of clubs.

You know that as well as anyone else, so why try and argue different?

[beerwins]

Well respected time served pro's like a big managerial name, young, hungry, ambitious players like money and a challenge, its about getting the mix right.

Kean may not have the name but he does'nt lack ambition, a lot has happened this year and for Kean to step up to the plate to steady the ship that deserves some credit at least. There was plenty of talk as Kean being here for the long run but 3 losses on the bounce early in the season will make any owners doubt their choice.

I for one am not worried if he is still here come the start of the season, that does'nt mean I would'nt like to see an established manager come in, I just think he has the ability to learn and I am willing to give him a chance, at first we leak goals like crazy so he made us stronger in defence, then he gets the best out of players in their natural position, ie: Olsson and Hoillet and as soon as he started he recognised the weakness in midfield by Signing J. Jones on loan which in my opinion was long overdue.

With a proven goalscorer signed in the window we may well have turned the draws into wins because the performances were'nt bad at all but unfortunately we ended up with Crocky which I believe the deal was already negotiated with Sam at the helm.

Whatever happens this sunday I still believe one thing, that Rovers have some of the best fans in this league, throughout all the aggro we have endured when the shiznit hits the fan we have still been there in full support, and thats been a big ask this season.

[davulsukur]

Seriously, people actually think having Steve kean in charge is going to stop us signing players? Pull the other one. Realistically the sort of players we would be able to attract are players who are out of favour at their current premier league club and want first team football. Anyone else would just want the chance to play in the prem and any marquee signing would be here for the cash.

Players will sign for us if kean remains in charge, chill out ffs.

[sparkspakespoke]

There's a massive difference between someone who's at the end of their career, who is settled and happy somewhere and who opts to stay at that place, versus someone who is in the prime of their career choosing between a bunch of clubs.

You know that as well as anyone else, so why try and argue different?

Come on your better than that. Your point is correct but that example that doesn't work.

He was already at the end of his career when he signed for us. He said at the time it was a choice between us and the far east.

He wasn't in the prime of his career when he signed and his options were likely the same recently as when he signed initially.

[tony gale's mic]

Come on your better than that. Your point is correct but that example that doesn't work.

He was already at the end of his career when he signed for us. He said at the time it was a choice between us and the far east.

He wasn't in the prime of his career when he signed and his options were likely the same recently as when he signed initially.

But it's already been established that the reason why he came was because Ivan Campo had recommended Sam to him.

There's fundamentally a difference between someone being attracted enough to want to go to a club that they don't know whether they'll like or not, and someone re-signing at a club that they know they're getting regular game time at the top level, where they're settled and where they're a fan favourite.

Total difference. The reference to "players in their prime" was a reference to the players we'll be hoping to attract under Kean.

[Amo]

So how can be "happy" and "settled" here, when the reason he signed has been hoisted out of the club and replaced with an amateur? He could easily leave here and go to the Far East if he wanted, but he's chosen to stay.

[chris]

Seriously, people actually think having Steve kean in charge is going to stop us signing players? Pull the other one. Realistically the sort of players we would be able to attract are players who are out of favour at their current premier league club and want first team football. Anyone else would just want the chance to play in the prem and any marquee signing would be here for the cash.

Players will sign for us if kean remains in charge, chill out ffs.

I agree, I still think he will be able to sign decent players

It would help if he was a bigger name but Big Sam really is not a popular name any player would run to.