[Archived] Steve Kean

[Majiball]

That is very doubtful unless you are a 10 year old. The old guideline was 2.5 pints of average strength bitter. Obviously anything over 2 pints is gambling a little.

Zero tolerance eh? can of worms. I'd have thought you would have thought things throuigh a little more. If you enjoy a social drink or even a glass or two of wine with your meal Maj how do you personally know when you have absolutely zero alcohol in your bloodstream? Please reply cos I'm intrigued. If you are speeding then it's indefensible cos there is a speedometer under your nose in every car, but where is there a meter showing ones blood alcohol reading?

I live in a city, so if I go out I get the bus/taxi.

My link

[ABBEY]

Guideline only that link..

[SD4E]

Most of the senior players thought Sam was the best manager they have ever worked under - Paul Robinson, in particular could not talk highly enough of the man.

No wonder, after all, bfs ensured robbo was featuring regularly in the carling opta stats for "goal assists".

[thenodrog]

I live in a city, so if I go out I get the bus/taxi.

My link

1. Not everyone lives in a city.

2. Do you drive to work the day after? If so how do you personally calculate when there will be completely NO trace of alcohol in your blood?

3. That info tells you nowt really. How many units puts you over?

[Majiball]

1. Not everyone lives in a city.

2. Do you drive to work the day after? If so how do you personally calculate when there will be completely NO trace of alcohol in your blood?

3. That info tells you nowt really. How many units puts you over?

Iused to live in Devon so I'm well aware of the issues, alas you asked how I personally deal with the issue and that's my reply. I am not a big drinker and so for me it's not a problem as my days of nights on the town ended long ago. Your right that info does tell you nowt and that's the point, who knows but one pint of beer could take up to 3 hours to leave your system. It's so ambiguous nobody knows and as it's so low it might as well be nothing at all.

[rebelmswar]

Are we seriously discussing if Kean can accurately judge the amount of alcohol in his system?

I wouldn't trust him up judge a beauty padgent with one entry.

[47er]

Of course it will. And by the same logic kenny bought the title as well! Being successful spending money in this money-driven league means being successful.

But Kenny picked his own targets, no-one is in any doubt about that.

[tonyoz]

1. Not everyone lives in a city.

2. Do you drive to work the day after? If so how do you personally calculate when there will be completely NO trace of alcohol in your blood?

3. That info tells you nowt really. How many units puts you over?

If you're gonna drink - don't drive. It's simple.

[Exiled in Toronto]

But Kenny picked his own targets, no-one is in any doubt about that.

He did, and his make your mark, statement of intent, make everyone sit up and take notice first signing was a 3rd division left back! Good job we didn't have this messageboard then.

But no matter who picks the targets, if we succeed in spending this budget well, Kean will get the credit in the outside world.

[jim mk2]

He did, and his make your mark, statement of intent, make everyone sit up and take notice first signing was a 3rd division left back! Good job we didn't have this messageboard then.

But no matter who picks the targets, if we succeed in spending this budget well, Kean will get the credit in the outside world.

Alan Wright was regarded as one of the best young left backs in the country when we signed him. Alot of bigger clubs were watching him.

Why should Kean get the credit and which "outside world" would that be ?

Keep taking the Hobnobs.

[Miker]

If you're gonna drink - don't drive. It's simple.

No it's not. It's an infringement on a person's freedom of choice. It's also a dangerous game to pick out alcohol as the sole reason for potential dangerous or careless driving. Mood changes, drowsiness, physical and mental fatigue could all cause this. Having people in the car, talking or having music on in the car can even act as distractions.

It's down to the person to know if he's capable of driving or not. Despite having alcohol in your system, a person can have adrenalin rushing through their body from a variety of sources countering the potential drowsiness effect of alcohol and making them more alert.

Getting into a car, whether as the driver or the passenger is a danger. The road is unpredictable and even following all the road rules, a moment of human error on your behalf or someone else's can result in a disaster.

The amount of alcohol that's consumed, especially in small amounts, is not an accurate indication of how reckless someone will drive. It is simply an assumption based on generalized evidence.

[John]

But no matter who picks the targets, if we succeed in spending this budget well, Kean will get the credit in the outside world.

If it translates into buying players who help create a winning football team.

[PAFELL]

No it's not. It's an infringement on a person's freedom of choice. It's also a dangerous game to pick out alcohol as the sole reason for potential dangerous or careless driving. Mood changes, drowsiness, physical and mental fatigue could all cause this. Having people in the car, talking or having music on in the car can even act as distractions.

It's down to the person to know if he's capable of driving or not. Despite having alcohol in your system, a person can have adrenalin rushing through their body from a variety of sources countering the potential drowsiness effect of alcohol and making them more alert.

Getting into a car, whether as the driver or the passenger is a danger. The road is unpredictable and even following all the road rules, a moment of human error on your behalf or someone else's can result in a disaster.

The amount of alcohol that's consumed, especially in small amounts, is not an accurate indication of how reckless someone will drive. It is simply an assumption based on generalized evidence.

Of course there are many reasons for dangerous or careless driving - not just alcohol. But if the law says you cannot drive with a certain level of alcohol in your body - then that is it. Somebody once said to me it can - on average - take an hour for a unit of alcohol to leave the body. Also a 12 hour gap since the last drop of alcohol (unless you have had a big bing) can be a good way of measureing. Though wine is a different matter altogether. You could drink a bottle of wine and consume it by say 10pm. But you could still be over the limit by 10am the following morning.

[47er]

He did, and his make your mark, statement of intent, make everyone sit up and take notice first signing was a 3rd division left back! Good job we didn't have this messageboard then.

But no matter who picks the targets, if we succeed in spending this budget well, Kean will get the credit in the outside world.

You've lost me there. Alan Wright was a great little player and half a million pounds was a lot for us then. He was an England Under-23 player too. I was rapt at the time and would have come on here and said so!

He may have been in the 3rd Div with Blackpool but we were in the second remember. And he had no problem making the transition to the Premier league either.

I don't think your point is well-made here.

[thenodrog]

I don't recall any player saying exciting times ahead under Allardyce seems to be a theme under Kean though.

Indeed. The final matches of last season were very exciting. More of the same and you'll be made up I suppose?

[Exiled in Toronto]

Indeed. The final matches of last season were very exciting. More of the same and you'll be made up I suppose?

Well I enjoyed them - football IS supposed to be exciting isn't it? And nearly getting relegated is like nearly getting pregnant - you either do or you don't.

[thenodrog]

You could drink a bottle of wine and consume it by say 10pm. But you could still be over the limit by 10am the following morning.

Exactly my point. Maj and other zero tolerance advocates are dangerously assuming that all traces of alcohol will have gone by then.

Tell you when I'm most dangerous. It happens when I'm completely sober too. It's when I start to drop off to sleep. That really is scary.

[Exiled in Toronto]

You've lost me there. Alan Wright was a great little player and half a million pounds was a lot for us then. He was an England Under-23 player too. I was rapt at the time and would have come on here and said so!

He may have been in the 3rd Div with Blackpool but we were in the second remember. And he had no problem making the transition to the Premier league either.

I don't think your point is well-made here.

I've forgotten what point I was trying to make anyway! This messageboard is doing my head in

[thenodrog]

Well I enjoyed them - football IS supposed to be exciting isn't it? And nearly getting relegated is like nearly getting pregnant - you either do or you don't.

But if you had been a Brum / Blackpool / WHU fan? What then at the end? Was the unecessary relegation battle worth the excitement? No doubt the added spice in the equation was the knowledge that we (as are Brum) were financially ill equipped and unprepared and facing free fall to oblivion really turned you on did it? I can tell you that it did nowt for me.

[Exiled in Toronto]

But if you had been a Brum / Blackpool / WHU fan? What then at the end? Was the unecessary relegation battle worth the excitement? No doubt the added spice in the equation was the knowledge that we (as are Brum) were financially ill equipped and unprepared and facing free fall to oblivion really turned you on did it? I can tell you that it did nowt for me.

Pussy!

[47er]

I've forgotten what point I was trying to make anyway!

I was generously assuming you had one!

[Exiled in Toronto]

I was generously assuming you had one!

and I was generously assuming so might you!

Anyway, this Steve Kean fella, what do you reckon?

[47er]

I can't make my mind up about him!

Sometimes I think he's absolutely hopeless, other times I think he's mediocre!

[John]

Whether you like Kean or not, a good stat below - think it can be forgotten that we finished the season pretty well (along with some fairly difficult fixtures).

Steve Kean's side collected eight points from a possible 12 in their last four games

[dubdubdub]

No it's not. It's an infringement on a person's freedom of choice. It's also a dangerous game to pick out alcohol as the sole reason for potential dangerous or careless driving. Mood changes, drowsiness, physical and mental fatigue could all cause this. Having people in the car, talking or having music on in the car can even act as distractions.

It's down to the person to know if he's capable of driving or not. Despite having alcohol in your system, a person can have adrenalin rushing through their body from a variety of sources countering the potential drowsiness effect of alcohol and making them more alert.

Getting into a car, whether as the driver or the passenger is a danger. The road is unpredictable and even following all the road rules, a moment of human error on your behalf or someone else's can result in a disaster.

The amount of alcohol that's consumed, especially in small amounts, is not an accurate indication of how reckless someone will drive. It is simply an assumption based on generalized evidence.

You're an idiot. If it's as dangerous as you suggest, surely alcohol will only increase that danger. You idiot.