[Archived] Steve Kean

[BiggusLaddus]

At which time he will receive a driving ban and a fine and will then continue his job. Just like every other player and manager who have done this in the past.

[Stuart]

Great news. That means it's ok to drink and drive. Don't know what all the fuss has been about.

[BiggusLaddus]

Where did I, or anyone else suggest that drunk driving is 'ok'?

I'm sorry if reality doesn't match what you would like to happen.

[rover2000]

According to this newspaper Kean told the court the new season starts on 22 August. The court then set his trial date for the week before.

http://www.elmbridgeguardian.co.uk/news/9072178.Weybridge_based_Blackburn_Rovers_boss_denies_drink_driving/

[Stuart]

According to this newspaper Kean told the court the new season starts on 22 August. The court then set his trial date for the week before.

http://www.elmbridgeguardian.co.uk/news/9072178.Weybridge_based_Blackburn_Rovers_boss_denies_drink_driving/

Ha! So he did arrange his own court date then.

I wonder when he found out the season starts on August 13th??

I'd love to know who he thinks might have spiked his drink, if that is indeed his defence.

[PAFELL]

At which time he will receive a driving ban and a fine and will then continue his job. Just like every other player and manager who have done this in the past.

He had the time to plead guilty at the first hearing, which would have resulted in a ban and a fine. But having pled not guilty and is going on trial. He could be jailed. I doubt will happen, but it is a possibility, however slight.

[rogerjonesgloves]

He had the time to plead guilty at the first hearing, which would have resulted in a ban and a fine. But having pled not guilty and is going on trial. He could be jailed. I doubt will happen, but it is a possibility, however slight.

Can we now have four pages on whether it should be 'pled' or 'pleaded'. It might relieve the boredom of having no news. Then again it might not.

[BiggusLaddus]

He had the time to plead guilty at the first hearing, which would have resulted in a ban and a fine. But having pled not guilty and is going on trial. He could be jailed. I doubt will happen, but it is a possibility, however slight.

He will not be jailed.

[Kelbo]

He will not be jailed.

I think you are right on the drink driving charge, however, perjury if proven could be a different thing, the CPS would have to prove he was drinking somewhere and provide evidence of such. On the Drink driving charge, it will be a fine and a ban based on how much he was over the limit!

[PAFELL]

He will not be jailed.

No I do not think he will - sadly.

[RibbleValleyRover]

If he's found guilty he should lose his job IMO.

[Andy]

I agree, though what bothers me more than anything is that he could have been a man, admitted the offence and taken his punishment - the worst he'll get is a ban and fine.

But instead, he's trying to wriggle his way out of the situation with expensive laywers and excuses of improper procedure or even, amazingly, accusing somebody of spiking his drink!

He was caught drink driving, twice over the limit, which is unforgiveable to start with, but to try and wriggle out of being punished, blaming everyone but himself just speaks volumes of the man.

[Mercer]

Apologies if someone has already made the point and I've missed it but Kean is incredibly quiet. There is virtually nothing coming from him in terms of transfer activity or contract negotiations for Hoilett. I guess that this is not good news.

Communication between club (owners, operators <whoever that may be> and football manager) and supporters is, IMO, at an all time low.

With Kentaro semmingly out of the scene, Venky's believed to be ready to sell, Mr Positive seems to have had all the stuffing knocked out of him. Couldn't have happened to a 'nicer chap'!

[Steve Moss]

He was caught drink driving, twice over the limit, which is unforgiveable to start with, but to try and wriggle out of being punished, blaming everyone but himself just speaks volumes of the man.

Being caught with over twice the legal limit is hardly "unforgivable". All the demonstrates is a period of bad judgment.

His defense, if not true, shows outright dishonesty. If I were the owners, and his defenses were not sustainable, that's what I would fire him for. Lying to the law, not drink driving.

[ad0102]

At some point soon he will have to speak to the press. If he makes a poor excuse for the lack of transfer activity or promises things will happen soon then any chance of support from me will be lost. I think he has got a difficult few weeks ahead.

I fear he will buy time and his response will be that it will be become clear after the trip to India and hong kong and we will lose another couple of weeks.

[CrazyIvan]

What defence has Kean put forward? I should imagine nobody on here would know anything about it. I've not heard anything apart from someone on here suggesting he might say his drink was spiked. His defence will be a closely kept secret between Kean and his legal team.

[PAFELL]

Being caught with over twice the legal limit is hardly "unforgivable". All the demonstrates is a period of bad judgment.

His defense, if not true, shows outright dishonesty. If I were the owners, and his defenses were not sustainable, that's what I would fire him for. Lying to the law, not drink driving.

A while ago I worked for a bus company. During a 2 month period 4 drivers were dismissed for being over the limit for the morning shift. This had been the second time the same drivers had been over the limit for the morning shift. The first time their rotas was changed and other drivers took on their shift. The second time they were sacked. They complained to their Union and got a shock of their lives. The unions supported the sackings as did the other drivers. Each said that if they had lost control of the bus whilst over the limit, passengers, other road users etc etc were at risk of harm. The attitude of everybody was, if that happened, it could have been my mum, wife, kids etc who could have been harmed.

As far as I am concerned the more that can be done to deter people drink driving the better. People in positions of trust - or those who people look up to, admire, hero worship (such as footballers) should have an additional punishment. In my opinion, sometimes the law needs to make an example of some people in order to deter others from doing the same thing. Drink driving could have consequeces to each and everyone of us and everything must be done to try to deter it.

Is it an unforgiveable offence? Put yourself in the shoes of victims of the offence and then answer the question.

Ok Kean did not hurt anybody - good. But we must remember he was stopped before he completed his journey. None of us know what would have happened if he had not been stopped.

[Pete1981]

Speculation from my sources inside blackburn rovers today report that steve kean could walk out.After fall outs with venkys and meetings being cancelled and not being given money in the transfer market steve kean could walk out on the club.This is good and bad news kean may leave but whoever we have incharge money is going to be needed.So more good and bad news out of ewood we will keep you updated as we get more news

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[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

If drink driving is an unforgiveable offence then so is speeding, driving tired, driving without a brake light, driving without headlights, irresponsible overtaking, driving too slowly (dare I say an inreasingly common occurence among older drivers), driving with over 12 points on a licence and a number of other offences behind the wheel that combined around 99% of the population have been guilty of at one point or another. All these things could cause accidents. Not trying to defend Kean but just wonder if the hell and damnation critics apply the same attitude to speeding for example? Or is it that they don't really like people drinking full stop and so get particularly annoyed about that?

[chaddyrovers]

Speculation from my sources inside blackburn rovers today report that steve kean could walk out.After fall outs with venkys and meetings being cancelled and not being given money in the transfer market steve kean could walk out on the club.This is good and bad news kean may leave but whoever we have incharge money is going to be needed.So more good and bad news out of ewood we will keep you updated as we get more news

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I wouldn't be surprise if he did walk away from rovers. He was promise a healthy budget from the owners which has not be given.

Kean knows we need new players but the owners won't allow him to do so.

I don't know whether this is true. Maybe Nicko, Kamy, Philipl or BPF can shed some light on this situation and whether it is true.

[philipl]

Kean is now very isolated but I would think he is more likely to be fired than walk.

You don't yell at Mrs D and not pay a price.

Quite honestly, if Venky's have taken the cotton wool out of their ears and asked a few people some straightforward questions, he would be fired.

Rovers could not be worse off with no manager than with having Kean there but I have not made any secret of that opinion for quite some time now.

[leerovers1980]

Kean is now very isolated but I would think he is more likely to be fired than walk.

You don't yell at Mrs D and not pay a price.

Quite honestly, if Venky's have taken the cotton wool out of their ears and asked a few people some straightforward questions, he would be fired.

Rovers could not be worse off with no manager than with having Kean there but I have not made any secret of that opinion for quite some time now.

you seam to know much, actually to much that I'm beginning to believe your talking utter rubbish, maybe one day if you keep guessing you might get something right

[chaddyrovers]

I guess Kean is very isolated now the owners have got rid of JA and Kentaro.

Did Kean shout down the phone at Mrs D because of transfer money/policy?

maybe the owners should have took they time to learn about rovers and what JW and TF roles where at the club. Plus also maybe have a meeting with SA and ask him for his plans to take us forward before decide to get rid of him without a plan of who to replace him with.

[tony gale's mic]

Have to say that although I would have been delighted to see Kean leave the club at the end of last season, if he were to walk out now it would be very bad for the club - even though I still don't think he's remotely up to being manager. There's no way Venky's would get any half decent replacement, and it would hugely add to the sense of crisis at the club if we can't even hang on to Steve Kean.

[martonrover]

Have to say that although I would have been delighted to see Kean leave the club at the end of last season, if he were to walk out now it would be very bad for the club - even though I still don't think he's remotely up to being manager. There's no way Venky's would get any half decent replacement, and it would hugely add to the sense of crisis at the club if we can't even hang on to Steve Kean.

It would mark a new low point for Venky's as his prospects of landing another managerial post are practically zero. If they can't even hang on to Kean they are snookered. The only positive is that maybe this would force their hand to sell.