[Archived] Steve Kean

[2PAC 4 Blackburn]

Does he and the Venkys realise how much investment it would cost to get us to brake into the top 4? I think we could blow £50mill and still def not have it has a given. They worry me.

[den]

We'll all look stupid if have a cracking season

Well let's hope we can get a class striker in, then we have a chance.

[tony gale's mic]

Does he and the Venkys realise how much investment it would cost to get us to brake into the top 4? I think we could blow £50mill and still def not have it has a given. They worry me.

We could spend £150 million and it'd still be difficult.

[m1st]

The one big difference between what Hughes said and what Kean's said is that, when Hughes took on our job, he had already been a MANAGER [and an international one, at that].

With all due deference to the present incumbent, he hasn't actually managed a club before. Even though, as I often include in my posts, I'm a "glass-half-full" man and so I want him to succeed [more for the sake of my club than his reputation], the realist in me wonders if he's up to the job.

[Roversi]

i've always maintained a belief that Kean can become a decent manager, he wants to play football the right way, and knows the development and coaching side of the game inside and out. obviously we as fans, never know the full extent of a managers motivation techniques but he seems to have the players in good spirits and has injected them with the belief that the club is going in the right direction. I dont however think he will become a manager of such ability in which he will take us a step further into european places, this however would be a tough feat for any manager, the upper part of the league will be dominated by Man U, Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs that leaves the rest of the league hoping 7th will become avalible via one of those 6 winning the f.a and league cup. First 10 games of this season will be huge for Kean and by god does he know it.

[PAFELL]

I think we can be a better judge of his comments after the transfer window and we have our club in place. Personally, I'd rather he be optimistic about a top 10 finish with eyes towards the Champions League. We need some positives and some dreaming around our club. I don't want our coaches goal to be avoiding relegation. If that's it, we need a new coach. But it all comes down to the same thing: Sounds good, but are they empty words?

Kean's an idiot and should be thrown out the club. Talks nothing but cr@p.

Can we have a Kean Out thread?

[Kelbo]

i've always maintained a belief that Kean can become a decent manager, he wants to play football the right way, and knows the development and coaching side of the game inside and out. obviously we as fans, never know the full extent of a managers motivation techniques but he seems to have the players in good spirits and has injected them with the belief that the club is going in the right direction. I dont however think he will become a manager of such ability in which he will take us a step further into european places, this however would be a tough feat for any manager, the upper part of the league will be dominated by Man U, Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs that leaves the rest of the league hoping 7th will become avalible via one of those 6 winning the f.a and league cup. First 10 games of this season will be huge for Kean and by god does he know it.

With the fixture list, we have got to get a minimum of 12 points on the board come October or we are goosed, we have a decent run to start with but then come the hard games!! I know they are all hard but we have to get 3 points at home v Wolves!

[Plastic Head]

Does he and the Venkys realise how much investment it would cost to get us to brake into the top 4? I think we could blow £50mill and still def not have it has a given. They worry me.

It has cost City over a quarter of a billion pounds in transfer fees alone to get into the champions league, and they started from a better position that we are in now.

We need to get 40 points. That is out target. We need a new manager to achieve that.

[Mercer]

Think that Kean is under enormous pressure at the moment. Seemingly, has lost the Kentaro crutch, is getting buffeted about over players and faces his drink / drive charge next week. Then has to deliver against Wolves.

No pressure there then ! A test of his mettle and character me thinks.

[cruz]

The goal.com article seems like a cut and shut job to me. The first half sounds recent whereas when it meanders onto the topic of top 4 etc it all seems a tad old and familiar and reeks of panning it out to fill a page.

Then again.................

[RibbleValleyRover]

Rovers have to cement themselves as a top 10 side first before they can look to try and make a push for European football, even then I doubt we can with such a poor manager at the helm.

[Roost]

i've always maintained a belief that Kean can become a decent manager, he wants to play football the right way, and knows the development and coaching side of the game inside and out. obviously we as fans, never know the full extent of a managers motivation techniques but he seems to have the players in good spirits and has injected them with the belief that the club is going in the right direction. I dont however think he will become a manager of such ability in which he will take us a step further into european places, this however would be a tough feat for any manager, the upper part of the league will be dominated by Man U, Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs that leaves the rest of the league hoping 7th will become avalible via one of those 6 winning the f.a and league cup. First 10 games of this season will be huge for Kean and by god does he know it.

I will judge him on results not whether i like him or not, and the last game i went to was the last game of last season away at Wolves and we played some tremendous football.

Add to that Rochina, Formica and now Goodwillie and I feel every reason to be optimistic for the coming season.

No doubt we will mis PJ, but i am prepared to give him time to prove himself.

It would be difficult to be worse than Ince, and we recovered from that debacle, so theres hope.

[yeti-dog]

I will judge him on results not whether i like him or not, and the last game i went to was the last game of last season away at Wolves and we played some tremendous football.

Add to that Rochina, Formica and now Goodwillie and I feel every reason to be optimistic for the coming season.

No doubt we will mis PJ, but i am prepared to give him time to prove himself.

It would be difficult to be worse than Ince, and we recovered from that debacle, so theres hope.

Good post Roost...

[FourLaneBlue]

It's not that it isn't salvageable, but we need more than just one signing coming in, that is for sure.

As things stand, it doesn't look good at all. That could change between now and the end of the transfer window though, that is for sure.

[roverandout]

we are a million miles from being a top 10 team let alone champions league, everton, newcastle, sunderland are all better sides than us, that makes us challenging in the bottom half with the likes of wba, bolton, wolves etc. If we finish one place above the relegation places with this squad i will be happy.

[tony gale's mic]

I will judge him on results not whether i like him or not, and the last game i went to was the last game of last season away at Wolves and we played some tremendous football.

Add to that Rochina, Formica and now Goodwillie and I feel every reason to be optimistic for the coming season.

No doubt we will mis PJ, but i am prepared to give him time to prove himself.

It would be difficult to be worse than Ince, and we recovered from that debacle, so theres hope.

We gave him time. He almost got us relegated. Cherry picking individual results doesn't really do much - I remember that excellent win we got against Everton in Ince's first game! Judged on results he displayed the results which, over the course of a season, would have seen us get relegated (or survive on GD).

There was only one way we got over the Ince debacle. It didn't involve sticking with a manager whose results weren't good enough.

[roverandout]

sorry but we cant pin all our hopes on goodwillie, i cant see us having a great season with this squad, we need a proper striker up front. If we sign one then things would be very different but we cant rely on roberts or goodwillie (at this stage)

[m1st]

There was only one way we got over the Ince debacle. It didn't involve sticking with a manager whose results weren't good enough.

Nor, for those of us with longer memories, the Iley debacle [1979].

[JAL]

sorry but we cant pin all our hopes on goodwillie, i cant see us having a great season with this squad, we need a proper striker up front. If we sign one then things would be very different but we cant rely on roberts or goodwillie (at this stage)

Dont forget we need quality centre half to play alongside Samba rather than the ageing injury prone Ryan Nelsen.

Whats Kean looking at some young unproven relegation hit French/African from Monaco and it wouldnt surprise me that hes never seen him play either.

[Andy]

It would be difficult to be worse than Ince, and we recovered from that debacle, so theres hope.

I agree, it would - yet Kean's record is.

[XLM]

I agree, it would - yet Kean's record is.

No it isn't. Check your facts.

[tony gale's mic]

No it isn't. Check your facts.

Ince has a better win percentage.

[XLM]

Ince has a better win percentage.

I'm sorry but I don't believe that's how the table is determined.

[tony gale's mic]

I'm sorry but I don't believe that's how the table is determined.

This is true, but usually you'll find when different managers' records are being compared in the media this is the most common statistic they use.

[XLM]

This is true, but usually you'll find when managers are being compared in the media this is what they use.

It still doesn't make it right though does it?