[Archived] Steve Kean

[rebelmswar]

More chance of Roberts scoring than Kean being sacked.

Very inaccurate that.

[blue_and_white]

So how much have you bet we will go down?

Nothing. I'm not a betting man, I'd never bet against Rovers if I was and a change in manager will still give us a chance (as long as its done before the Birmingham game).

[philipl]

The two Venky's directors on the Rovers board have been around holding meetings with Rovers staff and perhaps their presence in town triggered the speculation.

[broadsword]

What harm could it do? It can't be any worse under someone new. Get shut, he has had his moment in the sun.

Critically uniting one and all again for the run in, with the owners at last demonstrating some understanding of our current plight may save our season.

Be careful what you wish for, the next man in might be just as big a ######.

They'd be upheaval for sure. The question is whether the new manager effect would come into play or whether it would just be the same-old same-old. I guess if they brought someone in now they have time to get to know the players. But at the same time, I think it's worthy of note that the players took things in their own hands against Blackpool, and it was Samba who helped sort things out, the manager was just a peripheral figure. With so few games left, I think it's more important that the players grasp the nettle than anything this bald useless parasite does.

I'm all for firing him out of a cannon, but personally I would never have appointed him in the first place.

[rebelmswar]

The two Venky's directors on the Rovers board have been around holding meetings with Rovers staff and perhaps their presence in town triggered the speculation.

Just a general pat on the ass type meeting then?

[Kelbo]

I don't understand how people think sacking someone with very few games left helps at all. I believe we have more chance of surviving under Kean than under any other realistic possibilities. The players know they're in a relegation fight. Football logic goes out of the window and the best way to survive is now on their mentality. I don't think sacking their manager would bring about a more positive mentality in the players. Yes that's speculation...as is stating Kean will take us down.

Unfortunately his track record suggests he will take us down, he is tactically inept and unable to organise the team.

Adam is all left foot, did we mark him, why didnt we push him onto his right foot? we allowed the one player who could do damage to knock the ball all over the place, Keans tactic was obvious, get at them early and get a couple of goals, could have worked but of course he left us exposed AGAIN at the back and in midfield and it took the players to get the lads fired up at half time. Speculation? no a calculated judgement based on evidence of his managerial skills.

[philipl]

Just a general pat on the ass type meeting then?

The sort of ordinary business meetings with directors that happen in ordinary companies all the time.

Oh for Rovers to be back to ordinary on the business side again.

[chaddyrovers]

It would be great news if sk and jj got the sack!

I think the list of possible managers to replace him are Rafa Benitez, Claudio Ranieri and Steve McClaren.

I think the owners have look at results and decide that this is just not good enough. Plus also I wouldn't be surprise if the 2 venky's directors, Tom Finn and Paul Agnew have read all the rovers m/b's and rely what the fans have been saying about the team, the owners and the manager to the owners who have decide to sack him.

Plus the fact that we are close to the relegation places must be a MAJOR concern for the owners and this is not what they thought buying rovers was about and where we are in the league and expect us to be near the european places.

[BangkokRover]

Very inaccurate that.

And what makes you think that?

[Gav]

I don't understand how people think sacking someone with very few games left helps at all. I believe we have more chance of surviving under Kean than under any other realistic possibilities. The players know they're in a relegation fight. Football logic goes out of the window and the best way to survive is now on their mentality. I don't think sacking their manager would bring about a more positive mentality in the players. Yes that's speculation...as is stating Kean will take us down.

Couldn't agree more.

[BangkokRover]

Nothing. I'm not a betting man, I'd never bet against Rovers if I was and a change in manager will still give us a chance (as long as its done before the Birmingham game).

Well with the limited number of games to go in the season and the transfer window being shut there is 99.9% chance Kean is here fir the season.

[John]

Whilst I do not rate Kean on his work/results to date (plus other issues), it is a dangerous game to get rid of the manager now as it is so late in the season.

At least in the past 2 games the players looked more committed, just hope they are not too deflated as we have not won for ages!

[braddock]

Ha, as if you c.unts thought he had been sacked.

[philipl]

Worth remembering that Sam was gone about an hour after the betting markets moved.

I understand there are two bookies still not taking bets because they think the sacking has happened but this is a Pune to Kean "your time is up" call if it has happened. Ewood and Brockhall are reading this thread with complete bemusement apparently.

[rebelmswar]

And what makes you think that?

Statistically speaking its a fair bet that Roberta will score more often than Kean will be fired.

Ewood and Brockhall are reading this thread with complete bemusement apparently.

Good.

Kean - you are not fit to wipe Sams arse.

[LeChuck]

I don't understand how people think sacking someone with very few games left helps at all. I believe we have more chance of surviving under Kean than under any other realistic possibilities.

Kean can't win a game at the moment, nor does he ever look likely to. How could it be any worse with someone else in charge? It's a gamble on which we have nothing to lose, we already can't win games.

New managers often experience a 'honeymoon period' effect. Imagine what a boost it could be for the players on Monday morning if an experienced manager with a good CV turns up, instead of the chump currently in charge of them.

[Majiball]

Kean - you are not fit to wipe Sams arse.

No he's not, but he does need to lick it.

Unless we have a top manager lined up who the players will instantly respect, sacking him would be pointless.

[thenodrog]

Den, obviously I meant him to be replaced with a proper manager - not a no-mark coach! I fully supported sacking Sam at the time because we were being linked with the likes of Jol and O'Neill who IMO both would have been improvements. Proper, experienced managers.

However, while I didn't agree with Kean's appointment it was only fair to give him a chance. Well now that time has run out. Sacking Sam and replacing him with Kean = bad decision - you'll get no argument from me on that score. Guess we'll never know but if we'd have gone for Jol I'd bet we'd be pushing far higher up the table than both Kean or Sam would have.

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Jol and O'Neill I bet between them they haven't accumulated as many Prem points as Allardyce between them!

"I bet we'd be pushing far higher up the table" Speculation and conjecture now eh? By your previous statements it's obvious that like Gav your judgement is massively flawed and therefore completely invalid. You were warned many times but now you've got what you wished just live with it and stop trying to wriggle off the spike that you have impaled yourself on.

[Kelbo]

No he's not, but he does need to lick it.

Unless we have a top manager lined up who the players will instantly respect, sacking him would be pointless.

Yes I agree with that, unless!!!!!!

[AndyC]

he's going nowhere folks.

save your energy, buy something nice for the missus and enjoy your friday night!

[thenodrog]

I'd be biting my hand off to get him as next rovers manager

No chance, Benitez is effin useless. He'd be even worse than useless with no money to spend too.

[LeChuck]

Unless we have a top manager lined up who the players will instantly respect, sacking him would be pointless.

Why? A mediocre manager would be better than Kean, he's far worse than mediocre.

Not that he would be anywhere near my first choice, but even someone like Gary Megson would be a massive improvement. Kean really is that bad.

[Mc Love]

Worse than Kean though?

[92er]

He was sacked because of the 7-1 defeat to Man U. A single game does not make a manager crap.

Ince was crap and deserved to be sacked.

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He was sacked because his face didn't fit with the agenda of Anderson and Venky's, he wouldn't accept what they wanted to do and Kean would. Those decisions have played their part in getting us to where we are now, so if he is crap then give me another crap manager to save us from relegation.

I re-reading what you have writte, I am more in agreement with it than when I just read the first line!

I just wanted to point out JW said at the AGM that Allardyce was not sacked because of the 7-1 defeat.

[joey_big_nose]

Kean can't win a game at the moment, nor does he ever look likely to. How could it be any worse with someone else in charge? It's a gamble on which we have nothing to lose, we already can't win games.

I think we could still do worse. Whoever comes in needs to know what they are doing and be committed to sorting us out. I can't think of too many plausible names that would convince me on either score.

Kean looked like he was getting something out of the players last two matches, the team looks more settled now also. Changing the manager is yet another risk, and the players could give up the ghost.

Great if we get in someone of real quality, but if it isn't real quality and just another mediocre name I would rather stick with what we have as at least they know the set up.

Allardyce, Raneiri etc brilliant, but I'm not going to feel much more hopeful if it's coppel or someone like that.